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[TSL4] Day 2 Winner Interviews - Page 3

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-IeZaeL-
Profile Joined December 2007
Spain327 Posts
July 30 2012 13:29 GMT
#41
rofl this kid Keen is so arrogant , will be nice to see him getting raped by VortiX ^^;
aka:Wizards-> FnaticMSI ->IImg.IeZaeL ->MYM.IeZaeL . Actually teamless,Top40-80 GM Europe.Twitter: @IeZaeL_7
ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
July 30 2012 13:32 GMT
#42
Go Keen! Nothing to worry about now that Naniwa is gone. :D
No Mvp, no care. ~ the King will be back | Shawn Ray, Kevin Levrone, Phil Heath |
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
July 30 2012 13:36 GMT
#43
On July 30 2012 22:22 opterown wrote:
I could see vortix actually taking out keen, would not be thaatttt much of an upset hrm

Yeah, I think VortiX will beat him, but we'll see.

And I'd love to see Kas beat Life, I hope he shows up in the same shape as when he smashed Symbol last MSI Cup.
MadNeSs
Profile Joined March 2007
Denmark1507 Posts
July 30 2012 13:39 GMT
#44
Life is such a huge whiner lol. He keeps saying that toss is imba rofl, if he looked at his own games, it just him that sucks. His series against Elfi was hilarious. It was like watching GSL Season 2 again!
Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
July 30 2012 13:52 GMT
#45
Keen is a champ! :D But sucks Naniwa lost :/ He's not been doing too well lately.
Jaedong <3
althaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1001 Posts
July 30 2012 14:19 GMT
#46
On July 30 2012 13:12 TommyP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 12:46 minilance wrote:
liked the keen interview, thks for the good job

Judging by recent results in Korea, I think he's correct. DRG has been having an extremely tough time lately (Round of 4 and TAC3 ace match versus hero he didn't look like the best Zerg in the world that many people recognize him to be (or top 5 for that matter.) Also I know symbol and nestea both lost to kespa but I don't remember If both played toss or just one. even in Europe recently (WCS for Norway, Sweden, Denmark) only one Z was in the finals which was sortof and he played better than probably even he expected. 2 base timings are extremely hard to hold for
Example in game 3 of DRG MC, MC was doing a 2 base attack with warp prism, DRG saw it coming, killed sentries as they were coming out of the prism and stopped his main from getting FOrce Fielded off and
He still lost (as argueably the best player in the world.) just my modest opinion.

DRG has been playing like a diamond leaguer lately (and before he started playing like crap I'm pretty sure he said he felt like he would always win if he didn't mess up in ZvP and ZvT) and Symbol has mostly been smashing everybody in the face (and if he hadn't got cocky he probably would have won the GSL). I wouldn't necessarily say it's Zerg favoured (although it has been until very recently) or that it's as easy as ZvT has become, but I'd much rather play Zerg than Protoss in that matchup. Protoss has been figuring out some great stuff recently so that people copying Stephano don't just win automatically, but IMO Zerg's just haven't figured out they can be maxed at 14 minutes with broodlords & infestors if Toss takes a fast third.

Normal 2-base Toss timings are just a matter of controlling correctly, IMO, although I find the immortal-sentry all-in pretty tough to beat if it's not scouted (if you scout it it's much easier to get your units positioned fairly early to allow for a 3-way surround with ling-roach). 3-base play is just a matter of refining what is basically a Broodlord Rush.
The first rule we don't talk about race conditions. of race conditions is
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 30 2012 14:47 GMT
#47
Commander Keen. Best picture, best interview.
I had a good night of sleep.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25981 Posts
July 30 2012 14:52 GMT
#48
I like JonnyRecco a lot more after that interview. I really like players that take full advantage of the TSL format to study against their opponent. That was a huge win.
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kranten
Profile Joined January 2012
Netherlands236 Posts
July 30 2012 15:04 GMT
#49
Keen seems like a total douche, but maybe it's just the translation. I hope he wins though.
Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
July 30 2012 15:34 GMT
#50
Keen, you can't help but like him- it's just that aura of awesome.
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8527 Posts
July 30 2012 15:38 GMT
#51
On July 30 2012 12:46 NB wrote:
wow... so according to ST_life, Zerg < Protoss in Korea @_@


Yeah very good attitude for a progamer, that's how you will get better, lol....
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
July 30 2012 15:52 GMT
#52
Keen talking straightforward like a BOSS.
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
Nokturnal1
Profile Joined January 2012
United States2 Posts
July 30 2012 15:57 GMT
#53
Go Kas!
I laughed when Life said if you play standard ZvP you'll lose so you have to use tactics like 6 pool. Rofl. Zerg is the unstoppable race atm in my eyes
Stay a while and listen
bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
July 30 2012 16:12 GMT
#54
The Koreans really are naive :p. Hopefully Kas will punish Life and I think VortiX has a chance vs Keen too.
Nokturnal1
Profile Joined January 2012
United States2 Posts
July 30 2012 16:26 GMT
#55
On July 30 2012 16:25 CoR wrote:
"Yes, these days if you play a standard game, Protoss is too imba so I can't beat them. So I use those kind of tactics frequently."
well stephano thinks otherwise xD


I agree, not to mention mr JonnyRecco taking down Naniwa. Zerg has figured out those 2 base timings so protoss= RIP.
Stay a while and listen
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 17:09:11
July 30 2012 16:39 GMT
#56
On July 30 2012 22:39 MadNeSs wrote:
Life is such a huge whiner lol. He keeps saying that toss is imba rofl, if he looked at his own games, it just him that sucks. His series against Elfi was hilarious. It was like watching GSL Season 2 again!


That is generally the case.

It is odd that he has never been terrible against Protoss though. His overall ZvP record is pretty decent.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Psychlone
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada90 Posts
July 30 2012 16:47 GMT
#57
So far every Terran has won in the Ro32.
catabowl
Profile Joined November 2009
United States815 Posts
July 30 2012 16:48 GMT
#58
On July 30 2012 14:03 0neder wrote:
I love Keen's honesty about foreigners. Frankly I wish the scene consolidated a bit more so there aren't always a dozen bottom-feeder tournaments going on, but I guess that's like a minor league system?


Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 13:52 leo23 wrote:
You came back from a 0 – 2 deficit to win, how do you feel?


Life: Honestly I knew I would win, but because I lost two games strangely, I feel a bit...


A BIT WHAT? WE MUST KNOW

A BIT.....BY.....BIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I see what you did there
Jung! Myung! Hoooooooooooooooooon! #TeamPolt
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
July 30 2012 17:15 GMT
#59
On July 30 2012 20:12 Daigomi wrote:
Nice interviews all around. I hope JRecco continues playing well and the same for Kas. Keen is a bit too arrogant for me. On the one hand he says he has been playing badly and hopes to win more, on the other hand he completely looks down on foreign opponents + Show Spoiler [FXOpen invitational] +
and then loses to BabyKnight and Lowely in the FXOI
. If you're really serious about winning, you have to take every broadcasted match seriously.

I also found that quite ironic.
Another recent example would be NesTea, who stated stated that he lost against Snow because he expected him to play at a lower skill level. A lax attitude is easily punished.
Bippzy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1466 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 17:36:07
July 30 2012 17:34 GMT
#60
On July 30 2012 13:02 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +

Do you have any unique hobbies or talents? VortiX for instance told us he can solve a Rubik's Cube in 30 seconds.


Hmm, there will be something but my minds just drawn a blank lol. maybe from beating NaNiwa.

I can do it in 16 seconds :D

Become progamer then!

I really liked these interviews with koreans, they were enlightening. I think koreans are very honest about their lack of knowledge of the foreign scene and how they felt during the games, and they are more free with giving their opinions because I' not sure if saying foreigners suck is really an insult from a korean perspective. Very good interviews.

I wish someone would go thorzain mode and go mass thor vs toss and absolutely destroy them just for nostalgia.
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