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xza
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore1600 Posts
March 21 2011 19:13 GMT
#101
LOL they really like to QQ dont they?
"What a terrible final. This is why BO3s are horrible. Seriously MKP vs Moon in a final and having it BO3 is like having Mila Kunis naked in your bed and all she'll give you is a HJ with her PJs on. Pffffffffffffffftt." -greatZERG
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-21 19:14:55
March 21 2011 19:14 GMT
#102
On March 22 2011 04:13 xza wrote:
LOL they really like to QQ dont they?

The last spoiler has more of a discussion going, some of them sounded pretty impressed by foreigners rather.

+ Show Spoiler +
"Still, watching the foreign players in TSL..FD, Jinro, and Huk dropping at round of 32..even with the big of lag, I think the skills of top foreign players are quite formidable. The GSL players are having a hard time"

"I especially think MorroW and ThorZaIN were very strong. I'm speechless at how MorroW lost so much in the early game and was still able to survive to midgame depending on just mass ling/lings"

"Foreign players are very strong. It's not just a league of our own anymore lol"

"That's right, their skills didn't fall short of our players at all. MC seems to be lucky with his opponents too. But did these players not participate in the IEM?"

"I don't know about them and IEM, but unlike the invited Koreans, I heard they had prelims for this tournament. So their mental state going into this should be quite different"

"Really, I can see GSL being spreading more and more towards being global. Looking at TSL, and watching the players in GSL..Korea is a powerhouse in Starcraft, but I think in Starcraft2, that expression will disappear..Even if the reaction times were slow, the games themselves were excellent. In Starcraf 1, Korea dominates and take everything in WCG, but I don't see that happening in Starcraft 2. There definitely are players among foreigners that can win, just like the players on TSL today. Looking at Jinro's spread today I thought 'Wow..he's faster and better than MarineKing'. They're that scary and good. GSL having doors open to foreigners, I think there are some very skilled players appearing, which I like"

"I think it'll be fun to set up a GSL-level tournament in America and Europe and getting the top 8 from the tournaments and having a word tournament could be fun too"

"Or making another server and getting 16 from each to have a 64 people tournament could be fun too. Get 16 Code S players and 16 Code A players...if Blizzard could support this and have sponsors behind it, I think Starcraft 2 will become really popular"

"Positive affects of GSL players getting KO'd early in TSL:
Foreign users can now feel like 'Hey, I can do this!' And in reality, it doesn't look like there's a huge gap like in Starcraft 1 to have words like Koretoss, Koreg, or Koran. If they do come to Korea, they might be a bit surprised by the Kimchimen's micros due to having no response time issues, but like Huk and Jinro, it's just a problem of adapting. But even in the micro department, seeing that terran spread marines against FruitDealer, I think things will even out real soon"
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
March 21 2011 19:15 GMT
#103
Thorzain and Morrow really impressing the koreans :O

hasuobs just confuses them with his name alone

and whitera is a 34y old farmer with children only playing during the winter, rofl :D


i love how there are those crazy rumours about the foreign scene there, like the mothership being the uber unit on the NA server
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
March 21 2011 19:15 GMT
#104
Thorzain and Morrow are getting a ton of respect now, and nobody knew who Thorzain was before this. Props to them.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
VirGin
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway278 Posts
March 21 2011 19:21 GMT
#105
Morrow getting more respect from the koreans than from us on TL lol =P

But overall their impressions seem to mirror what you can read on the LR threads here.
ParasitJonte
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden1768 Posts
March 21 2011 19:45 GMT
#106
On March 22 2011 04:21 VirGin wrote:
Morrow getting more respect from the koreans than from us on TL lol =P

But overall their impressions seem to mirror what you can read on the LR threads here.


Yes, because the korean netizens seem to have a better understanding of the game. After morrow lost on xel'naga there were a bunch of "morrow can't macro vs jinro LOL" comments that were just utterly stupid. Koreans identify immediately that morrow was basically dead, and still managed to play that well.

This really, really, really, really bugs me for some reason...
Hello=)
sadyque
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania251 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-21 19:59:44
March 21 2011 19:58 GMT
#107
Yes, because the korean netizens seem to have a better understanding of the game. After morrow lost on xel'naga there were a bunch of "morrow can't macro vs jinro LOL" comments that were just utterly stupid. Koreans identify immediately that morrow was basically dead, and still managed to play that well.

This really, really, really, really bugs me for some reason..


That is sooooo true. Morrow was freakin' awesome and all the haters saw 'lol abuser baneling all in cheese 11!!'.
60 bucks? But it has Kerrigans Boobs in three god damn dimensions. Do you know how long i have waited for this?
underdawg
Profile Joined January 2011
United States399 Posts
March 21 2011 19:59 GMT
#108
lol now everyone agrees that the koreans are alright

"cheeseman" = american? european? white?
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
March 21 2011 20:20 GMT
#109
So at the end of the day we see that korean forum posts are no different from tl forum posts. Good to know that we all act the same when it comes to the internet!
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Bear4188
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1797 Posts
March 21 2011 20:32 GMT
#110
Someone should explain the server rules to them :>

"I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something." - R. Feynman
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
March 21 2011 20:38 GMT
#111
On March 22 2011 02:58 Nostalgia.NA wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Rest of the stuff.

White-Ra vs Loner

"After a failed blue flame hellions, I think GGing and leaving is certainly the way to go lol"

"It wasn't even blue flames"

"Ah, my bad hellion drops lol"

"Do these guys not know Shakuras spawn points are far positions only?"

"No way lol"

"They both scouted close positions lol"

"They're both probably scouting for proxies, there's no way Loner's never done Shakuras"

"Who builds proxies at those locations? lol"

"Oh wait, you're right lol"

"The toss should win this"

"The zealots are just outshined by the colossi and you don't really see them too well, but as a terran, a bunch of zealots are so damn much more annoying compared to a bunch of colossi"

"Why'd he pull back just there? Couldn't the marauders win there? Just one colossus and some stalkers..he had 3 vikings and marauders. It looked like they could've gotten that"

"I think it was because of the warp gates. If 5 or more zealots came, the remaining units would've been caught"

"If the marauders went in, he would've lost heavily. Warp gates were summoning stuff in and there was another colossus"

"But I still think it would've been better than running away while losing units. I wasn't talking about going to attack the toss, but standing his ground and taking care of the units that were left"

"Considering the counter attack, I think he made the right call running. The stalkers were blink stalkers too so.."

"I want to see set 4 but I'm so sleepy..Jinro vs MorroW..but I'm about to collapse"
-Knetizen feeling the pain of foreigners watching GSL-

"I feel sorry for Loner in the final match...after the medivac pressure there was a timing where he could've gone in when the toss had 2 colossi..but he gave White-Ra too much time and lost it"

"Marauder running away from stalker while getting hit....huh? (probably a joke pointing out the irony of stalker chasing marauder when it's usually the other way around with concussive shell, I think)"

"Yea, this is my first time seeing White-Ra's games. He seems very weak in the early game and it's a shame Loner couldn't figure that out. White-Ra seems to like macro games with focus on upgrades and exploding in the late game..but Loner's a macro type too so..lol"

"That was like watching a normal ladder PvT. But still there were no carriers or motherships like the rumors say..I've heard that in the NA server, motherships are like hax good...It felt like watching a ladder game of mine heh"

"I play on NA, but I have yet to see a mothership;;; It's all a rumor"

"Huk!!! Let's be surprised after watching this 2nd set Huk!!"


Huk vs HasuObs

"Why do they keep reading the names wrong since yesterday? Just who the hell is HaobsuhObs?"

"Link to games please!!" "Click live stream at Gomplayer!"

"They said they've asked an English speaker to read it and are imitating what they heard;"

"It must be the same thing as a foreigner trying to imitate and say "안녕하세요('Hello' in Korean)" and having a completely different sound coming out...But his ID means 'Hasu Observer'. The ID was made in Korean and yet.."

"Yesterday..you mean the Tyler, Taylor thing right? Anyways, who knows? They're not retards, it can't be that they can't read HasuObs"

"Tyler as Taylor, ThorZaIN as Throzen, HasuObs as HaobsuhObs...you don't necessarily have to be retards to not be able to read"

"Oh they're reading it as HausObs..maybe a German person read it as HausObs to them"

"Just reading it as HasuObs is correct"

"They're saying they're interlocking with TeamLiquid and reading them as they're read. Why's everyone making a fuss? lol"

"Even if it's the same sound, knowing and not knowing the fundamentals make a different when you try to imitate the sound. Try imitating a language that you don't know and see how it works out. Gisado(one of the Korean casters) just fixed it and is reading it correctly as HasuObs now"

"The subtitles are switched;; The red at 9 is HasuObs and the blue at 12 is Huk.."

"I got fooled too lol"

"Who do you think has the lead? For some reason it feels like HasuObs has the advantage..but Huk has quite a bit of immortals;;"

"Depending on the micro, Huk could have the upper hand"

"The force fields are the most important factor. He'll lose if the immortals play"

"PvP is so damn boring...I'd rather find 4warp gate rushes or a proxy gate more fun"

"Ah, Jinro..please purify my eyes (Koreans use the expression 'purify the eye' to refer to something beautiful, fun, relieveing to watch/see)..PvP is killing me..they should nerf tosses crazy or something to keep PvPs from coming up...I'm so tired of this"

"Did MC, BoxeR, FruitDealer..etc all go out of country for this on a plane? or is this online?"

"Koreans do it online, so the ping is crazy"

"They connect to the NA server online. So they say their usual levels of micro are not possible"

"Online. Just the finals are done on location"

"It's online, I think the semis and the finals are offline"

"I forget when, but after a certain point in the tournament, it's done in New York I think"

"Ah...the last match was so boring T T...Why didn't you look at the corner...T T"

Jinro vs MorroW

"Until when will MorroW play zerg..? Besides having skills, the player's personality should match the race..This guy throws away terran after he wins a tournament with 5racks reapers...and since then lol"

"He just switched races. T -> Z"

"Is the lag really that bad -0-?? 2 seconds...Looking at the games I can't feel the lag at all..During Open Beta I've played on the Korean server from NA and don't remember much lag...Korea has fast internet so it can't be taking 2 whole seconds..I once saw Huk play games with NA people from Korea, and he barely lagged"

"They say the earthquake had some effects. KT's cables going out to foreign countries were not affected too much. Maybe it's something like oGs using KT and TSL using LG" -KT and LG are ISPs in Korea-

"Whoa....whoa..."

"A foreign player casting the Kyrix style"

"I can't close my mouth...D:"

"The GSL players are not doing too well..What's wrong with them T T..other than MC everyone's getting by barely or being KO'd in early stages T T
FD - KO'd early
Boxer - Barely
Huk - KO'd early
Lonver - KO'd early
Jinro - Uneasy"

"Jinro KO'd early"
-posted at a later time, after Jinro loses 2:1-

"MorroW lol burrow lol"

"MorroW's good..he got hurt pretty bad from 2 racks and is still able to do that"

"How are the TSL results going so far? Please summarize in one line"

"Upset"

"MC wins, Huk loses, White-Ra wins, Jinro 1:1"

"So you're saying my Toto is being destroyed" -Toto is the betting thing they have on PlayXP where players bet points to guess results and outcomes of games. They use these points to buy icons-

"Wow Jinro..words can't describe. MorroW's amazing too...getting harrassed so much from beginning to end, and still being able to recover and produce masses. Zerg's been getting hit the whole time, but they become so strong if they manage to somehow block the harrasses..Jinro's detailed macro game's off the hook...So I guess a zerg gosu has to at least be able to play like this to win...."

"MorroW was really good too"

"Where are you guys watching the game?"

"GomTV, Gisado"

"GomTV's lagging, watching the foreign stream. Check the notice for match previews"

"It still looked like he blocked it pretty well without bunkers..if that was me, I'd mis-micro my SCVs and marines and lose them all to the banes...but in the end he lost both. GG"

"Really boring lol lol"

"Who won in Jinro vs MorroW? I refreshed real quick and the game ended;; I watched upto the point where Jinro had a massive wall"

"MorroW won 2:1"

"If you aren't going to scan Zerg's base, I think you should at least have one SCV outside to check near the zerglings to decide if you want a bunker or not at least. If you weren't going to scout at all, a bunker would've been nice. Even if he lost a lot of SCVs with the first rush, he did block it. And an SCV was outside the wall. I wish he would've scouted around with it a bit. He's usually very thorough..sad he wasn't this time"

"Seeing the result upto now:
Out of the 7 with experience in GSL 3 advances, 4 got KO'd.
Out of the 4 current GSL code S palyers, 1 advances, 3 got KO'd
1 Code A advances
Shame"

"I think it's a huge handicap to play NA from Korea. I tried and the response time is so slow, I can't even spread or do moving shots with banshees. This is why you should play Korean servers in Korea and NA servers in NA..."

"I don't know how it'd be playing NA from Europe"

"Oh..I heard they were invited so I thought they were flying over to play there..but it was online connecting to NA from Korea? I was wondering what they were talking about with the cable being bad due to the quakes in Japan"

"Europe to NA doesn't matter~"

"Still, watching the foreign players in TSL..FD, Jinro, and Huk dropping at round of 32..even with the big of lag, I think the skills of top foreign players are quite formidable. The GSL players are having a hard time"

"I especially think MorroW and ThorZaIN were very strong. I'm speechless at how MorroW lost so much in the early game and was still able to survive to midgame depending on just mass ling/lings"

"Foreign players are very strong. It's not just a league of our own anymore lol"

"That's right, their skills didn't fall short of our players at all. MC seems to be lucky with his opponents too. But did these players not participate in the IEM?"

"I don't know about them and IEM, but unlike the invited Koreans, I heard they had prelims for this tournament. So their mental state going into this should be quite different"

"Really, I can see GSL being spreading more and more towards being global. Looking at TSL, and watching the players in GSL..Korea is a powerhouse in Starcraft, but I think in Starcraft2, that expression will disappear..Even if the reaction times were slow, the games themselves were excellent. In Starcraf 1, Korea dominates and take everything in WCG, but I don't see that happening in Starcraft 2. There definitely are players among foreigners that can win, just like the players on TSL today. Looking at Jinro's spread today I thought 'Wow..he's faster and better than MarineKing'. They're that scary and good. GSL having doors open to foreigners, I think there are some very skilled players appearing, which I like"

"I think it'll be fun to set up a GSL-level tournament in America and Europe and getting the top 8 from the tournaments and having a word tournament could be fun too"

"Or making another server and getting 16 from each to have a 64 people tournament could be fun too. Get 16 Code S players and 16 Code A players...if Blizzard could support this and have sponsors behind it, I think Starcraft 2 will become really popular"

"Positive affects of GSL players getting KO'd early in TSL:
Foreign users can now feel like 'Hey, I can do this!' And in reality, it doesn't look like there's a huge gap like in Starcraft 1 to have words like Koretoss, Koreg, or Koran. If they do come to Korea, they might be a bit surprised by the Kimchimen's micros due to having no response time issues, but like Huk and Jinro, it's just a problem of adapting. But even in the micro department, seeing that terran spread marines against FruitDealer, I think things will even out real soon"

"To think Jinro would get knocked out.."

"The terran that got FruidDealer was really thorough and good"

"I don't know, now there are a lot micros like marine spreads and moving shots, toss' guardian shields and force fields, and zerg's baneling explosions that require micro speed of 0.x seconds. And having slow response times, I think the results can't be helped but be like this"

"That's why things are looking positive. All that matters is how the cheesemen look at things from their perspective; This delay in response time will help break the prejudice about Koreans being unbeatable. If this happens like in Starcraft 1, this'll just become a league of only Koreans again"

"So this tournament's done on the NA server from Korea? That's hard;; The response time is crap and the Koreans are given too much of a handicap. No wonder the GSL players have been falling left and right"

"So only the Korean region has slow response time in NA?"

"Europe seems to be fine, but the Kimchimen are saying it's 0.5~2seconds late. Blizzard must've given a server handicap"

-Two guys have a really immature argument about the word Kimchimen being used, but I'm not translating it, it's lame-

-More arguments and discusion with pings and numbers and computer network terms I cba'd to look up follow afterwards. Not much more regarding TSL-


I accidentally refreshed this page and lost my first work after being halfway through -_-
So I got lazier the 2nd time around..I'm also sleepy so..excuse the grammatical errors and
other things that might be wrong with this translation. And hm..is this too long?



Excellent work! :D

Good to see real discussion being translated and not just translation of trolls.

I like how they were better than most of TL in recognising how well MorroW played in game 2.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
March 21 2011 20:39 GMT
#112
so happy to see morrow getting the respect he deserves. A big fan of him and this guy truly is still underrated in the foreign community for some weird reason although he has been pumping results left and right
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
March 21 2011 20:43 GMT
#113
looking forward to "Korean Netizen reaction on TL forum reaction" :D

glad to see some more positive comments, and not just some 13year raging QQ posts(we have enough of those here already)
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Kazzabiss
Profile Joined December 2010
1006 Posts
March 21 2011 20:58 GMT
#114
"The underwater cables to the US have been affected by the quake so it matters"

LOL WTF

and the commentary about White-ra being a farmer I was laughing so hard, also sad that the "fucking chinese..." post got reposted there, I mean the guy was banned after all.
ALL ABOARD THE INTERNET BANDWAGON
Zerum
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden348 Posts
March 21 2011 20:58 GMT
#115
I'm really happy to see that at lest the Koreans give some credit to Morrow unlike TL did last night.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
March 21 2011 21:01 GMT
#116
The rumor about white_ra was really funny, I had a good laugh.

Thanks for the translation!
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
March 21 2011 21:01 GMT
#117
On March 22 2011 05:58 Zerum wrote:
I'm really happy to see that at lest the Koreans give some credit to Morrow unlike TL did last night.


True, that was really impressing, and yet a lot of people raged on him.
Grummler
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany743 Posts
March 21 2011 21:16 GMT
#118
On March 22 2011 06:01 Roggay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2011 05:58 Zerum wrote:
I'm really happy to see that at lest the Koreans give some credit to Morrow unlike TL did last night.


True, that was really impressing, and yet a lot of people raged on him.



Well, from a TL members perspective:
Our gsl HERO Jinro lost twice in a BO3 to cheesy baneling busts.
--> Hate on Morrow builds up.

From a Korean perspective:
Two foreigners duking it out. They know jinro is a good player, but morrow wins with strong dessicion making. He even did a great job in the match he lost.
--> Respect for Morrow builds up.
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aqui
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany1023 Posts
March 21 2011 21:21 GMT
#119
On March 22 2011 06:16 Grummler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2011 06:01 Roggay wrote:
On March 22 2011 05:58 Zerum wrote:
I'm really happy to see that at lest the Koreans give some credit to Morrow unlike TL did last night.


True, that was really impressing, and yet a lot of people raged on him.



Well, from a TL members perspective:
Our gsl HERO Jinro lost twice in a BO3 to cheesy baneling busts.
--> Hate on Morrow builds up.

From a Korean perspective:
Two foreigners duking it out. They know jinro is a good player, but morrow wins with strong dessicion making. He even did a great job in the match he lost.
--> Respect for Morrow builds up.

Except it wasn't cheesy but the hard counter to jinros build.
pyrestrike
Profile Joined October 2010
United States235 Posts
March 21 2011 21:23 GMT
#120
On March 22 2011 05:43 SmoKim wrote:
looking forward to "Korean Netizen reaction on TL forum reaction" :D

glad to see some more positive comments, and not just some 13year raging QQ posts(we have enough of those here already)

That would be pretty hilarious

Thanks for translating, everyone Those rumors are pretty hilarious and it's nice to see some outside reaction, for sure.
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