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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
January 16 2010 22:32 GMT
#41
Are you involved in the oddsmaking? Every sportsbetting site I know sets the odds and then changes the lines from there based on bets.
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Catyoul *
Profile Joined April 2004
France2377 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-16 22:43:12
January 16 2010 22:39 GMT
#42
I concur with Nazgul, that's how you make riskless money as a sportsbetting site.

edit: hm...
We will aim towards providing fixed lines for all national and international E-Sports leagues and events and furthermore we offer odds on a wide selection of other sports events
sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
January 16 2010 22:44 GMT
#43
I have never heard of this and I used to bet for an year or so (my brother even longer). Sure they reserve the right to change some odds, but it's rare. I would never bet on a site using this kind of a system. It sounds like a scam to me. lol
ProoM
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Lithuania1741 Posts
January 17 2010 00:20 GMT
#44
I'd bet all my money on sen vs ghosta that sen will win lol!
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Liquid`Zephyr
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States996 Posts
January 17 2010 00:47 GMT
#45
trying to bet on movie vs flash but betting is capped at max $200 profit? god damnit let me allin
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emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
January 17 2010 01:09 GMT
#46
After watching my liquibet record
I think I will NEVER bet on that site lol
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
January 17 2010 01:46 GMT
#47
wow flash movie is like 5-1 ....BET all your money on movie if you have a brain (that is if they don't change odds)

and nazgul u don't mean they can change your bet right? once u place a bet at set odds u get that deal (except in horseracing lol)
why so 진지해?
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
January 17 2010 02:03 GMT
#48
On January 17 2010 10:46 Rekrul wrote:
wow flash movie is like 5-1 ....BET all your money on movie if you have a brain (that is if they don't change odds)

and nazgul u don't mean they can change your bet right? once u place a bet at set odds u get that deal (except in horseracing lol)


Yeah, I was thinking of signing up, and betting on Movie.

Also, I may be wrong on how the handicap betting works, but there's two for Movie vs Flash, and the second has Movie at +2.5.

So I would assume that means that even if Flash wins 3-1, you still win the bet (since it would be 3-3.5). Granted the payout isn't the best, but I'd say it's a moderately safe way to win a bit of money.
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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
January 17 2010 02:09 GMT
#49
yeah, if thats the way it is i totally agree, its a really safe bet

and 5-1 is just LOL for the whole series, it cant be even 2-1
why so 진지해?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 17 2010 07:34 GMT
#50
What the... isn't this extremely easy to abuse if they are fixed odds? Like, I could make a deal with Nony that he loses and bet 5k on Horror and then split the winnings in half with him? Lol...
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So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-17 07:41:23
January 17 2010 07:41 GMT
#51
On January 17 2010 16:34 Shikyo wrote:
What the... isn't this extremely easy to abuse if they are fixed odds? Like, I could make a deal with Nony that he loses and bet 5k on Horror and then split the winnings in half with him? Lol...


To an extent, I guess, but:


trying to bet on movie vs flash but betting is capped at max $200 profit? god damnit let me allin


I guess if you had tons of people bet horror, it may work out, and you could still make a tidy profit yourself, but I doubt it'd be worth it for Nony to throw the games, unless he had a deal worked up with a ton of people.
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Glaucus
Profile Joined June 2009
479 Posts
January 17 2010 08:05 GMT
#52
On January 17 2010 16:34 Shikyo wrote:
What the... isn't this extremely easy to abuse if they are fixed odds? Like, I could make a deal with Nony that he loses and bet 5k on Horror and then split the winnings in half with him? Lol...


This is what is going to happen next TSL. People already cheat on the ladder. What's to stop them from throwing a game, knowing they are very unlikely to make any money anyway?

It happens in all other sports.
neustadt
Profile Joined November 2007
Germany39 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-17 08:17:33
January 17 2010 08:11 GMT
#53
whats the site???
cant find any bets on http://www.xlfrag.com

[update] eh. xlBET.com
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
January 17 2010 08:27 GMT
#54
Wait... you can do betting for the TSL? I mean did it really have Morrow as a favorite over Kolll? That is some weird stuff.
Catyoul *
Profile Joined April 2004
France2377 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-17 08:35:09
January 17 2010 08:31 GMT
#55
(crosspost from LP)

On January 16 2010 21:29 Rekrul wrote:
5.75:1 is ridiculous, maybe im a dog at 2:1 for a bo5, but still, 5.75:1 LOL

lol yeah their odds are a bit extreme. It's off the website now but I think it was 1.1 if you bet on Flash, 5.75 if you bet on Movie.
Btw their odds are 5.75 for 1 not 5.75 to 1, so it's like 4.75:1 (if I read properly).

Since it's BO5, that means :
- if you bet on Flash, you must think he has > 76% chance to win every individual match
- if you bet on Move, you must think Flash has < 69% chance to win every individual match
(the difference is the rake obv)

Now, betting on Flash would be completely ridiculous. As for betting on Movie, 69% chance to win every single game is a very high number and I'd instabet if it was anyone but Flash, but we must admit he does have a >70% record lifetime (which is beyond sick, although he's at "only" 67% TvP), and that includes less dominating periods. And Movie doesn't seem particularly dominating PvT.

I'd still bet on Movie, but the edge is less than it seems imo.

On January 17 2010 17:27 Jonoman92 wrote:
Wait... you can do betting for the TSL? I mean did it really have Morrow as a favorite over Kolll? That is some weird stuff.

Apparenty yes, and no Morrow wasn't a favorite.

PS : and what Nazgul meant is that the line moves after you have made a bet for the next people who want to bet, not for you.
zerotol
Profile Joined August 2009
Belgium508 Posts
January 17 2010 08:45 GMT
#56
Of course odds change after a lot of people vote on the underdog because obviously the odds are wrong then...
Now i am become death, the destroyer of worlds
Catyoul *
Profile Joined April 2004
France2377 Posts
January 17 2010 08:48 GMT
#57
Which is why we're surprised, since they say their lines are fixed.
sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
January 17 2010 09:46 GMT
#58
The odds should have nothing to do with how many people bet how much money on whom. The only thing the odds should represent is the chance of a player/team winning (according to professionals). And that obvsly doesn't change with people betting.
Glaucus
Profile Joined June 2009
479 Posts
January 17 2010 10:08 GMT
#59
On January 17 2010 17:45 zerotol wrote:
Of course odds change after a lot of people vote on the underdog because obviously the odds are wrong then...


How is that obvious?
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
January 17 2010 11:14 GMT
#60
Dunno if those odds are reliable... you could abuse some of them certainly
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