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i know that TL is not very fond of short OPs but there really isnt much content to add to this simple and basic question.
iCCup just released new chaos plugins (coded by python_max) making 3-minute-delay scbw live streaming (replayish within scbw engine) available. (check out www.iccup.com if you havent read about it yet)
its very similar to GarenaTV / WaaaghTV (spelling?) for WC3/DotA just that its for our most beloved game instead 
so here comes the question: albeit it still being a bit buggy, will teamliquid TSL2 broadcast of TSL2 games use these new plugins as an additional way to broadcast the games to vods/video-streams, yes or no?
thanks for any responses in advance
gl hf =)
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im pretty sure even if tl wanted this, pokerstrategy.com wouldnt, because I guess you cant implement custom banners/ads in a live replay cast.
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Still iccup stream tv is really in beta stage i got tons of problems using it so i guess no.
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
No we will be doing a pure video broadcast.
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thx for the answer Kennigit, the fast response is much appreciated
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The idea behind the ICCup thing is awesome, but it's still a few months of intensive use away from being a final product you could lean on in something as massive as TSL2.
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On December 30 2009 22:38 Kennigit wrote:
No we will be doing a pure video broadcast.
that's good 
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will the video broadcast be delayed or realtime?
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Detailed info considering these kind of questions will be posted by sexy admins, yes?
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On December 31 2009 01:03 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Detailed info considering these kind of questions will be posted by sexy admins, yes?
of course....
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why not ? it doesn't have any bugs we are aware of. It may have any delay you want (e.g. 3 hours). it doesn't affect the game flow at all and for sure can be used as a backup source of stream. besides, as far as i know not every game will be streamed by video broadcast. am i mistaken?
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On December 31 2009 01:21 unk. wrote:
why not ?
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Sorry for my apparant ignorance but video broadcast means somehing like livestream with observers in game? Or Commentated replays? Im also wandering if the games with commentary will be available when not live on an "on demand" the like of which livestream has available?
Thanks
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On December 31 2009 02:14 IdrA wrote:
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
On December 31 2009 01:21 unk. wrote:
why not ? it doesn't have any bugs we are aware of. It may have any delay you want (e.g. 3 hours). it doesn't affect the game flow at all and for sure can be used as a backup source of stream. besides, as far as i know not every game will be streamed by video broadcast. am i mistaken?
Because we are building on TSL's production value and want a unified experience. I'm talking about Ro16 btw - we haven't announced our plans for Ro48.
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On December 31 2009 02:25 Kennigit wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2009 01:21 unk. wrote:
why not ? it doesn't have any bugs we are aware of. It may have any delay you want (e.g. 3 hours). it doesn't affect the game flow at all and for sure can be used as a backup source of stream. besides, as far as i know not every game will be streamed by video broadcast. am i mistaken? Because we are building on TSL's production value and want a unified experience. I'm talking about Ro16 btw - we haven't announced our plans for Ro48.
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it'd be pretty cool as a sort of unofficial alternative
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On December 31 2009 02:51 Tropics wrote:
it'd be pretty cool as a sort of unofficial alternative
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One problem with that: + Show Spoiler +this is their event with Poker Strategy sponsoring
Some people.
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Calgary26003 Posts
On December 31 2009 02:51 Tropics wrote:
it'd be pretty cool as a sort of unofficial alternative
Do you really want us to experiment with the biggest online foreigner event ever? Really?
On December 31 2009 02:14 IdrA wrote:
LOL
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On December 31 2009 03:04 bEsT[Alive] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2009 02:51 Tropics wrote:
it'd be pretty cool as a sort of unofficial alternative ... One problem with that: + Show Spoiler +this is their event with Poker Strategy sponsoring Some people.
That doesn't mean the users arent allowed to do it on their own. If they would like they can stream their games... Nothing in the rules about that.
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On December 31 2009 05:25 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2009 03:04 bEsT[Alive] wrote:On December 31 2009 02:51 Tropics wrote:
it'd be pretty cool as a sort of unofficial alternative ... One problem with that: + Show Spoiler +this is their event with Poker Strategy sponsoring Some people. That doesn't mean the users arent allowed to do it on their own. If they would like they can stream their games... Nothing in the rules about that.
I have a pretty good feeling that players streaming their FPView of their own games is going to be disallowed. Just a hunch, or something like that.
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United States4991 Posts
On December 31 2009 05:25 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2009 03:04 bEsT[Alive] wrote:On December 31 2009 02:51 Tropics wrote:
it'd be pretty cool as a sort of unofficial alternative ... One problem with that: + Show Spoiler +this is their event with Poker Strategy sponsoring Some people. That doesn't mean the users arent allowed to do it on their own. If they would like they can stream their games... Nothing in the rules about that.
The precise rules and restrictions for the qualifier games aren't released, and if we want to make a rule regarding this we certainly can.
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On December 31 2009 04:31 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2009 02:51 Tropics wrote:
it'd be pretty cool as a sort of unofficial alternative Do you really want us to experiment with the biggest online foreigner event ever? Really?
If it impacts the quality of the real stream in any way (or if the sponsors dont like it) obviously not, but I don't see the harm in trying it out if its bug free. I don't really expect it to actually happen or anything, just saying it'd be cool.
On December 31 2009 03:04 bEsT[Alive] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2009 02:51 Tropics wrote:
it'd be pretty cool as a sort of unofficial alternative ... One problem with that: + Show Spoiler +this is their event with Poker Strategy sponsoring Some people.
I didn't mean actually unofficial, I meant still TL controlled but not fully endorsed. I'm wording this poorly but I know what I mean and I THINK I've put across what I mean and i'm too tired to try harder
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Just want to add that you can show sponsers/logos by modding the sc:bw tilesets on computer that is converting the replay stream into video. Having first person view of both players in addition to the observer view with commentary (3 streams) is amazingly awesome.
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i want idra games streamed in ro48!!!
idra vs nony will deff be streamed right?>
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On December 31 2009 02:29 NiGoL wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2009 02:25 Kennigit wrote:On December 31 2009 01:21 unk. wrote:
why not ? it doesn't have any bugs we are aware of. It may have any delay you want (e.g. 3 hours). it doesn't affect the game flow at all and for sure can be used as a backup source of stream. besides, as far as i know not every game will be streamed by video broadcast. am i mistaken? Because we are building on TSL's production value and want a unified experience. I'm talking about Ro16 btw - we haven't announced our plans for Ro48.
Why did you quote this then not say anything? Struck me as odd
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poker stars is sponsoring it, and live video is what they want with all their adds.
hell after razer tsl i went and bought their products.
the advertising how they do it works ^_^
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On January 01 2010 14:47 piratebay wrote:
poker stars is sponsoring it, and live video is what they want with all their adds.
hell after razer tsl i went and bought their products.
the advertising how they do it works ^_^
ummmmmmmm
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On December 30 2009 22:38 Kennigit wrote:
No we will be doing a pure video broadcast.
Thank god. Anything else would not be the same.
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where is the schedule for the broadcast? i cant find it
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Join the club hommie. As far as I know there is no schedule yet. The only concrete information I have is the matches are set to begin on 1/9.
I'm sure all we be announced in due time.
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United States4991 Posts
Times will be announced, but they are not public yet.
Play times have just been announced.
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Braavos36402 Posts
Qualifiers R1 / R2 will not be broadcast with casters / streams.
All results and replays will be released immediately after each series is finished.
There will be an upcoming commentary contest with prizes for all games that are not broadcasted. The announcement for that will come soon.
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Streaming video is known to everyone and reliable way to show games, while ICCup Stream is a new thing. If TL guys would like to mess about with it and something went wrong it could possibly leave viewers dissapointed, which could be very bad for the publicity, and it's not something I can see being possibly considered at such a short notice. Maybe when it becomes more widespread for the TSL3, could be awesome .
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The iccup page even says its buggy, so I dont know where "unk." gets his info.
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On January 03 2010 14:36 Catch]22 wrote:
The iccup page even says its buggy, so I dont know where "unk." gets his info.
i guess you just didnt know yet, but unk. is one of (if not the) lead programmer/tech guy of iccup, maybe that enlightens as to where he is getting his info from
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