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CaptainPlatypus
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States852 Posts
December 05 2009 03:05 GMT
#1341
On December 05 2009 09:51 IdrA wrote:
effort 5 pooled me because he knows i like to 13 rax 15 cc on medusa, and it was indeed a coinflip. if i had been top left i wouldve been forced to wall at the inner choke, which is a 1 depot wall, which is literally a free win vs 5 pool.
Doesn't sound very smart to rely on a lucky spawn position against a player who knows you well.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 05 2009 03:07 GMT
#1342
On December 05 2009 11:07 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
Yeah AZ. lol

What Effort did was smart play.

Greg remember that time you allined in a Bo5 finals? It was the fifth match.

That's called smart play because no one was expecting you to do that at all. -_-

vult rine scv rush after scouting double nexus first vs someone with shitty micro is hardly the same as a blind 5 pool or ling allin
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
Glaucus
Profile Joined June 2009
479 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-05 03:33:42
December 05 2009 03:31 GMT
#1343
bEsT[Alive], that's forced by protoss cheese. At least try better if you want to trash talk the best non-korean SC player. Come on, it's not that hard to bash him decently.

And Octzerg loses just as much in the C ranks as in B and A ranks. He can't be that good...
Ricjames
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Czech Republic1047 Posts
December 05 2009 03:37 GMT
#1344
i don't understand why some people dodge and stuff to qualify if they gonna get their ass kicked anyway
Brood War is the best RTS that has ever been created.
JohannesH
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1364 Posts
December 05 2009 03:41 GMT
#1345
On December 05 2009 12:37 Ricjames wrote:
i don't understand why some people dodge and stuff to qualify if they gonna get their ass kicked anyway

Its kinda fun to participate in tournies... Not just about winning, not that many people overall who have a decent shot at getting to price spots.
If you have to ask, you don't know.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-05 04:02:10
December 05 2009 04:00 GMT
#1346
On December 05 2009 06:46 Lz wrote:
im guessing dino is on semih's account? becasue semih is not good btw to muscle..
u cant say somone is top 2 usa.. who hasnt ever acomplished ANYTHING...
keep that in mind.. he couldnt even win 1 wcg usa pre-lim out of like 10.... (he didnt even make final 4) so.. sir... i LoL @ u


damn lz why so much hate mr top usa zerg.
He only participated in one wcg qualifier.

Hes not smurffing, such a ludicrous statement to make.

some facts,

he hit b+ (8600) last season on his smurff, and beat you. (you can take my word for this or not I really don't care)

@ louder, he hit B for asl, (struggling b- player? what?)

I know semih can be an arrogant ass, but please guys accusing him of cheating or that he has someone else playing for him is just low.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
December 05 2009 05:10 GMT
#1347
It isn't an accusation it is a fucking fact. The guy can't play.

He did have a very poor stats b- account last season and I'm the one who knocked him out from wcg I know how bad he is.
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-05 05:27:32
December 05 2009 05:25 GMT
#1348
On December 05 2009 14:10 AttackZerg wrote:
It isn't an accusation it is a fucking fact. The guy can't play.

He did have a very poor stats b- account last season and I'm the one who knocked him out from wcg I know how bad he is.


Have you even played/seen him play in the past 6 months? I love how your laying down the law and giving us "facts" while you bring up wcg qualifiers that happened 6 months ago. Alot can change with a players skill level in 6 months yo... -_-
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-05 05:59:41
December 05 2009 05:34 GMT
#1349
On December 05 2009 14:25 LuckyFool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2009 14:10 AttackZerg wrote:
It isn't an accusation it is a fucking fact. The guy can't play.

He did have a very poor stats b- account last season and I'm the one who knocked him out from wcg I know how bad he is.


Have you even played/seen him play in the past 6 months? I love how your laying down the law and giving us "facts" while you bring up wcg qualifiers that happened 6 months ago. Alot can change with a players skill level in 6 months yo... -_-


(caution the below post was written very hastily and is not coherant at all .... hehe)
Proof isn't on me here I cant proof that he is terrible but you nor anybody else can prove that he magically gained the ability to get to A- with less then 20 loses. Sorry he isn't legit one way or another.

Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
December 05 2009 05:48 GMT
#1350
Proof isn't on you...? So, when someone makes accusations that a person is cheating, they are guilty until proven innocent? Shouldn't the ones accusing him have to be the one to prove that he is cheating?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
wadadde
Profile Joined February 2009
270 Posts
December 05 2009 05:50 GMT
#1351
There's something terribly wrong with the English classes in the US..
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
December 05 2009 05:51 GMT
#1352
On December 05 2009 14:34 AttackZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2009 14:25 LuckyFool wrote:
On December 05 2009 14:10 AttackZerg wrote:
It isn't an accusation it is a fucking fact. The guy can't play.

He did have a very poor stats b- account last season and I'm the one who knocked him out from wcg I know how bad he is.


Have you even played/seen him play in the past 6 months? I love how your laying down the law and giving us "facts" while you bring up wcg qualifiers that happened 6 months ago. Alot can change with a players skill level in 6 months yo... -_-


Proof isn't on me here I cant proof that he is terrible but you nor anybody else can prove that he magically gained the ability to get to A- with less then 20 loses. Sorry he isn't legit one way or another.


By that argument we can't prove that idra isn't having a cj terran play for him or that everybody isn't smurfing, so everyone is, so I guess we just have to cancel TSL.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 05 2009 05:54 GMT
#1353
chances are hes as legit as morrow
so ya he still sucks but hes not actually cheating
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AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
December 05 2009 05:59 GMT
#1354
it was actually a post written while my son and dog were pulling my attention away =).

What I was trying to say was that everybody who knows anything about the american scene knows he is another no mechanics protoss who relies on people not knowing how to beat terrible (and weird) strategies in order to win. He is nowhere near a- AND there are maybe 2 americans capable of those stats and neither of them are him. Sorry that he is able to beat you lucky but then again your a b- american terran, so losing to a cheesy/weird american toss is kind of how it works.

And Lemonwalrus your logic is worse then mine was lol. Have you heard of hotkey patterns? Your post was really really bad and I'm comparing it to mine lol.
Sc2ggRise
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States607 Posts
December 05 2009 06:02 GMT
#1355
haters keep on hatin! AZ's just jealous he hasn't improved in the last 6 months T_T

everyone is saying inka has improved so much over the last 6 months... semih can not? lulz for haters!

GO SEMIH!!!!
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-05 06:04:39
December 05 2009 06:02 GMT
#1356
On December 05 2009 14:59 AttackZerg wrote:
And Lemonwalrus your logic is worse then mine was lol. Have you heard of hotkey patterns? Your post was really really bad and I'm comparing it to mine lol.

So we should analyze the hotkey patterns of every replay of every player in the top 48? I guess that's logical.

Edit:
______^ That is my 'That isn't actually logical' face.
RaNgeD
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States733 Posts
December 05 2009 06:06 GMT
#1357
Quit argueing. There are plenty of people who get A- each season who aren't realistically A- players. Im not saying semih isn't an A- player.
Also I hate how if a player isn't known or in an overly hyped team such as EG. hes immediately trash, its bullshit.
Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance. 1 Corinthians 13:7
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-05 06:20:35
December 05 2009 06:16 GMT
#1358
On December 05 2009 15:02 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2009 14:59 AttackZerg wrote:
And Lemonwalrus your logic is worse then mine was lol. Have you heard of hotkey patterns? Your post was really really bad and I'm comparing it to mine lol.

So we should analyze the hotkey patterns of every replay of every player in the top 48? I guess that's logical.

Edit:
______^ That is my 'That isn't actually logical' face.

no because there would be no logical reason to do so.

just check the ones of suspicious accounts.

Dont think you can disqualify the guy until you have actual proof that he has someone else playing on his account such as asking for his reppack which he should have.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
December 05 2009 06:21 GMT
#1359
Hey AZ ever here of this kid Koll?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=80284

Semih may not have improved as fast as him or be the same skill lvl but hes legit like him
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Excello.ChOseN
Profile Joined April 2008
United States82 Posts
December 05 2009 06:23 GMT
#1360
If I can get a-, anyone can. Even a monkey with one testicle.
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