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EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
December 04 2009 21:46 GMT
#1301
im guessing dino is on semih's account? becasue semih is not good btw to muscle..
u cant say somone is top 2 usa.. who hasnt ever acomplished ANYTHING...
keep that in mind.. he couldnt even win 1 wcg usa pre-lim out of like 10.... (he didnt even make final 4) so.. sir... i LoL @ u
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-04 21:55:37
December 04 2009 21:48 GMT
#1302
On December 05 2009 01:45 IdrA wrote:
kwark plays bad players, octzerg turns games into a coin flip. theyre both getting unearned wins. just different ways to go about it. if anything kwark's way deserves more respect because he at least still has to outplay the bad players.


I fail to see how you losing to lings repeatedly is a coin flip. I guess that when Effort smashed you with a 5 pool @ Blizzcon it was a coin flip too. Honestly, stop being an asshole, play safer, since you're sooOoOoo much fucking better than these foreigners, they just do "stupid shit" that you still manage to lose to over and over. Seriously, make 6 fucking bunkers and you should still win since you're so much better.

Don't give me some bullshit about me trolling you because it's me and you, it has nothing to do with that. The only shit you post on TL are arrogant strat forum posts where you give accurate information but in a dickish way and posts where you call foreigners stupid or make some idiotic snide comment about them doing stupid shit or winning by luck or what the fuck ever new bullshit excuse you have made up to rationalize you losing.
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
nicoaldo
Profile Joined March 2009
Argentina939 Posts
December 04 2009 21:54 GMT
#1303
On December 05 2009 06:39 Substandard wrote:
Mh, i'm sorry to say that all this dodging and lower rank playing is kinda ruining the ladder for me. I was hoping a lot of foreigners would be able to achieve A-, but the manly way. Frankly in the top 20 i see a lot of players who seem to be just way higher than their "real" Iccup rank. When you look at the matchlist of some players it just seems that the ranks in this ladder have no real meaning. Though i do understand that it's not really possible to prevent this it takes away a lot of excitement for me.
I used to check the ladder standings a couple times a day but i've increasingly lost interest. I just hope all the deserving players make it in and all the dogders get their butts kicked in the qualifiers.


The problem is that this format doesn´t encourage gamers to challenge themselves, the best option is massgaming+dodging+lower rank playing.
Only a few players deserve the ranking that they have, thats true, but that isnt going to affect the results in the qualifiers at all, the really good players will still qualify and rape those kids. My respect to IdrA, Ret, White-ra and the rest of the players that are legit.
This is just a proof that points and ranks don´t represent skill. Idra and white-ra winning/meeting in the finals of every tournament, ret being picked by eStro, chill beating LBH (=P), thats skill.
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
December 04 2009 21:54 GMT
#1304
ok i think the 3 last games vs D rank settles it, im done with ladder now i stay at A rank ggs
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
December 04 2009 21:59 GMT
#1305
On December 05 2009 06:54 nicoaldo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2009 06:39 Substandard wrote:
Mh, i'm sorry to say that all this dodging and lower rank playing is kinda ruining the ladder for me. I was hoping a lot of foreigners would be able to achieve A-, but the manly way. Frankly in the top 20 i see a lot of players who seem to be just way higher than their "real" Iccup rank. When you look at the matchlist of some players it just seems that the ranks in this ladder have no real meaning. Though i do understand that it's not really possible to prevent this it takes away a lot of excitement for me.
I used to check the ladder standings a couple times a day but i've increasingly lost interest. I just hope all the deserving players make it in and all the dogders get their butts kicked in the qualifiers.


The problem is that this format doesn´t encourage gamers to challenge themselves, the best option is massgaming+dodging+lower rank playing.
Only a few players deserve the ranking that they have, thats true, but that isnt going to affect the results in the qualifiers at all, the really good players will still qualify and rape those kids. My respect to IdrA, Ret, White-ra and the rest of the players that are legit.
This is just a proof that points and ranks don´t represent skill. Idra and white-ra winning/meeting in the finals of every tournament, ret being picked by eStro, chill beating LBH (=P), thats skill.


Well right now the rankings are very different from what it will look like in the end. The last couple days will have a fuckload of games and many players will have no choice but to play one another in an attempt to get points with the deadline coming up.
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
Biochemist
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1008 Posts
December 04 2009 22:15 GMT
#1306
On December 05 2009 06:54 MorroW[MB] wrote:
ok i think the 3 last games vs D rank settles it, im done with ladder now i stay at A rank ggs


Haha, nice!
Blue
Profile Joined July 2004
Norway359 Posts
December 04 2009 22:32 GMT
#1307
On December 05 2009 06:59 Ganfei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2009 06:54 nicoaldo wrote:
On December 05 2009 06:39 Substandard wrote:
Mh, i'm sorry to say that all this dodging and lower rank playing is kinda ruining the ladder for me. I was hoping a lot of foreigners would be able to achieve A-, but the manly way. Frankly in the top 20 i see a lot of players who seem to be just way higher than their "real" Iccup rank. When you look at the matchlist of some players it just seems that the ranks in this ladder have no real meaning. Though i do understand that it's not really possible to prevent this it takes away a lot of excitement for me.
I used to check the ladder standings a couple times a day but i've increasingly lost interest. I just hope all the deserving players make it in and all the dogders get their butts kicked in the qualifiers.


The problem is that this format doesn´t encourage gamers to challenge themselves, the best option is massgaming+dodging+lower rank playing.
Only a few players deserve the ranking that they have, thats true, but that isnt going to affect the results in the qualifiers at all, the really good players will still qualify and rape those kids. My respect to IdrA, Ret, White-ra and the rest of the players that are legit.
This is just a proof that points and ranks don´t represent skill. Idra and white-ra winning/meeting in the finals of every tournament, ret being picked by eStro, chill beating LBH (=P), thats skill.


Well right now the rankings are very different from what it will look like in the end. The last couple days will have a fuckload of games and many players will have no choice but to play one another in an attempt to get points with the deadline coming up.


And some may do as morrow
I must return to the time when I played with my own style, and when I determined the victory through strategies. And the strategies are a product of practicing more than anyone else. The key to success is to persevere through practice. Lim Yo-hwan
Simple
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States801 Posts
December 04 2009 22:46 GMT
#1308
wow, there were some heavy movements today. lots of double digits
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
December 04 2009 22:51 GMT
#1309
On December 05 2009 06:48 Ganfei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2009 01:45 IdrA wrote:
kwark plays bad players, octzerg turns games into a coin flip. theyre both getting unearned wins. just different ways to go about it. if anything kwark's way deserves more respect because he at least still has to outplay the bad players.


I fail to see how you losing to lings repeatedly is a coin flip. I guess that when Effort smashed you with a 5 pool @ Blizzcon it was a coin flip too. Honestly, stop being an asshole, play safer, since you're sooOoOoo much fucking better than these foreigners, they just do "stupid shit" that you still manage to lose to over and over. Seriously, make 6 fucking bunkers and you should still win since you're so much better.

Don't give me some bullshit about me trolling you because it's me and you, it has nothing to do with that. The only shit you post on TL are arrogant strat forum posts where you give accurate information but in a dickish way and posts where you call foreigners stupid or make some idiotic snide comment about them doing stupid shit or winning by luck or what the fuck ever new bullshit excuse you have made up to rationalize you losing.


you dont think 5pool is a coinflip?
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
December 04 2009 22:52 GMT
#1310
On December 05 2009 06:54 MorroW[MB] wrote:
ok i think the 3 last games vs D rank settles it, im done with ladder now i stay at A rank ggs

HAHA
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13051 Posts
December 04 2009 23:02 GMT
#1311
Kolll already B- with 39-0 i hope he gets at least A- in this weekend !

And lol Morrow way to go ... kwark style is the safest way wish you gl with the qualifers
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
December 04 2009 23:29 GMT
#1312
I think this ladder proves that no loss streaks are pointless and a poor predictor of A rank success.

I vote that admins convince Sea to smurf the ladder, watch people start panicking about the #1 spot and start playing games with reckless abandon, and then have him magically disappear in the 11th hour.
geegee1
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States618 Posts
December 04 2009 23:35 GMT
#1313
really morrow a D+ to get to A? really?
pew pew
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3156 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-04 23:52:30
December 04 2009 23:52 GMT
#1314
Gotta love morrow for playing two games with a D+ just to get to A. Gotta love it.

I hope people stop "abusing" at a point where they know that they'll qualify.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
December 04 2009 23:52 GMT
#1315
On December 05 2009 07:51 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2009 06:48 Ganfei wrote:
On December 05 2009 01:45 IdrA wrote:
kwark plays bad players, octzerg turns games into a coin flip. theyre both getting unearned wins. just different ways to go about it. if anything kwark's way deserves more respect because he at least still has to outplay the bad players.


I fail to see how you losing to lings repeatedly is a coin flip. I guess that when Effort smashed you with a 5 pool @ Blizzcon it was a coin flip too. Honestly, stop being an asshole, play safer, since you're sooOoOoo much fucking better than these foreigners, they just do "stupid shit" that you still manage to lose to over and over. Seriously, make 6 fucking bunkers and you should still win since you're so much better.

Don't give me some bullshit about me trolling you because it's me and you, it has nothing to do with that. The only shit you post on TL are arrogant strat forum posts where you give accurate information but in a dickish way and posts where you call foreigners stupid or make some idiotic snide comment about them doing stupid shit or winning by luck or what the fuck ever new bullshit excuse you have made up to rationalize you losing.


you dont think 5pool is a coinflip?

I give you 50$ if you get to A with 5pool dear Steeve :p
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
December 05 2009 00:03 GMT
#1316
The real quesiton is will semih be account banned from teamliquid for abusing the ladder....

Anybody who has played him knows he isn't good so he is obviously letting someone use his name to play.
Shiva_Chandra
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Denmark341 Posts
December 05 2009 00:08 GMT
#1317
Really need a rule that says you can't play people 2 ranks below your current rank.

Would be very sad if the end of this ladder was pestered with several people playing D ranks to get top 48.
Avi @^_^@
Future_sc
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States783 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-05 00:17:11
December 05 2009 00:16 GMT
#1318
On December 05 2009 09:08 Shiva_Chandra wrote:
Really need a rule that says you can't play people 2 ranks below your current rank.

Would be very sad if the end of this ladder was pestered with several people playing D ranks to get top 48.

that would be a stupid rule. People who play just D rank will not be able to get into the top 48.=p
Twitter @Future_sc Twitch.tv/Future_sc
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 05 2009 00:17 GMT
#1319
On December 05 2009 09:16 Future wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2009 09:08 Shiva_Chandra wrote:
Really need a rule that says you can't play people 2 ranks below your current rank.

Would be very sad if the end of this ladder was pestered with several people playing D ranks to get top 48.

that would be a stupid rule. People who play just D rank will not be able to get into the top 48.=p


why?
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
December 05 2009 00:30 GMT
#1320
wow, killer holding on strong.
I am not good with quotes
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