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PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
December 01 2009 20:05 GMT
#941
TSL-Pro = CLoud ?
hatred outlives the hateful
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
December 01 2009 20:08 GMT
#942
nope, Pro is another italian toss, ex NrG., iG. etc.
#1 Kwanro[saM] fan!
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 01 2009 20:10 GMT
#943
xiaozl is timothy, right?
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42656 Posts
December 01 2009 20:11 GMT
#944
On December 02 2009 04:49 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2009 04:28 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:
I just noticed, by looking in KwarK's match list, ALOT of his games are vs his own team mates in AoN, or rank lower players. Why would he do this? lol. He's going to knock someone more deserving out of the TSL ;;

Do you seriously not understand why he would do that? I have complete and full understanding for everyone who dodges, cheeses and whatnot to get in.

For the top 48 players we could just have an invitational. If you want to measure deserving by skill then yeah, I will almost certainly take someone elses place. Hell, Midian appears to not be playing but I'm 100% sure he's a stronger player than me. Doesn't mean I should give him my TSL place(if I make it that is). If I'm top 48 by icc points, which is the measuring stick we're using, I have as much right as anyone to entry.

But yeah, I am being very selective with games right now. If I make A- I certainly won't be under the delusion I'm an A- player. My team mates aren't throwing games to me, I'm a stronger player and they're winning some games. But I know I'm +ev in playing them because if I win 3/4 of my games vs a guy 2 ranks lower I'm still gaining points. It's not anything to be proud of but it's within the rules and it's the way a ladder league works.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
December 01 2009 20:19 GMT
#945
On December 02 2009 05:10 travis wrote:
xiaozl is timothy, right?

yes
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 01 2009 20:31 GMT
#946
I count 24 zergs, 10 Terrans, 12 Protoss, and 2 ?(Which I'm guessing is Random). I think a few Terran and Protoss players need to step it up a bit and contest the mass amounts of Zergs in this. Especially with 7 in the top 10.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
Beside_kr
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada902 Posts
December 01 2009 20:46 GMT
#947
so, 8300 was the cutoff for last year's TSL right? We're at that now, almost 8400. I'm certain somewhere in the A- rank will be the cutoff by the time the ladder is over
Cuffs, cuffs, you can't break those cuffs
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
December 01 2009 21:02 GMT
#948
Yes its now 100 % sure Top 48 will be all A- ( if not even more than Top 50 ) unless something very strange happens..
hatred outlives the hateful
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
December 01 2009 21:22 GMT
#949
I'm gonna feel really bad for the people who come out #49-50 or so.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
December 01 2009 21:26 GMT
#950
On December 02 2009 06:22 Pokebunny wrote:
I'm gonna feel really bad for the people who come out #49-50 or so.


your gonna feel bad
imagine how they are going to feel
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Gunman_csz
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United Arab Emirates492 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-01 21:29:25
December 01 2009 21:28 GMT
#951
Where is the korean killer? (Pj) I would pay him to particulate, tsl people should contact him aswell, and unban his ip
Began Starcraft journey on 5th May 2009
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 01 2009 21:28 GMT
#952
atm im rooting for yosh, nyoken, and this mana guy that I had never heard of but seems to be really good

how long has he been around?



anyways there are too many damn zergs in the top 48
GT.Eleven
Profile Joined October 2009
United States26 Posts
December 01 2009 21:37 GMT
#953
Go masterasia =)
People are remembered when they are really good, or when they are really bad
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
December 01 2009 21:39 GMT
#954
Go Kenzy :D
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Blue
Profile Joined July 2004
Norway359 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-01 22:14:31
December 01 2009 22:13 GMT
#955
On December 02 2009 06:28 Gunman_csz wrote:
Where is the korean killer? (Pj) I would pay him to particulate, tsl people should contact him aswell, and unban his ip


if u contact tsl and arrange for his trip out of china, im sure they will comply -_-

oh, and not much reason for #49 to feel too bad
big chance he wouldnt make it to the top 16, when the real TSL starts anyways -_-
I must return to the time when I played with my own style, and when I determined the victory through strategies. And the strategies are a product of practicing more than anyone else. The key to success is to persevere through practice. Lim Yo-hwan
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
December 01 2009 22:19 GMT
#956
woah kwark
Straylight
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada706 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-01 22:25:28
December 01 2009 22:23 GMT
#957
On December 02 2009 07:19 OneOther wrote:
woah kwark


Whoa as in nice job, A-?

Or whoa as in wow you just got 700 or so points off your clan mates?

e: not to imply that those aren't legit wins but playing your clan mates and playing against lower ranks through all of B+ is kind of a cheesy A- I guess
It felt like gravity.
OhThatDang
Profile Joined August 2004
United States4685 Posts
December 01 2009 22:30 GMT
#958
On December 02 2009 07:23 Straylight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2009 07:19 OneOther wrote:
woah kwark


Whoa as in nice job, A-?

Or whoa as in wow you just got 700 or so points off your clan mates?

e: not to imply that those aren't legit wins but playing your clan mates and playing against lower ranks through all of B+ is kind of a cheesy A- I guess


man wtf, just let the man play his games
if u think someone was more deserving than him then they will get to the top 48 on their own and boot kwark out legitamately
kwark is playing selectively and thats a smart way to go
he obviously knows its a long shot to win but he wants to play the best and be seeded into the tournament anyway he can
some of the best players are selectively playing foreigners only and SOME some koreans so whats the problem
everyones trying to get in right now just leave it at that


troi oi thang map nai!!!
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
December 01 2009 22:44 GMT
#959
Kwark has played over 240 games. He kinda abused the ladder system for one extra rank, but I'm fine with that, well deserved nonetheless. I'd like to see him in the elimination stages.

I presume there will be a ton of "abuse" like this in the last 2-3 days, and we will see more new A- players in that period than up until that time alltogether, I'm guessing the final cutoff will actually include a handful of A- players (just as ret presumed too).
BW fighting!
bEsT[Alive]
Profile Joined July 2009
606 Posts
December 01 2009 22:46 GMT
#960
It becomes a question of who wants it more. Either way, the deadbeats will be out within the opening week of the playoffs anyway. Let them have their 15 minutes of fame.
If you obey all the rules you miss all the fun - Katharine Hepburn
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