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mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
December 01 2009 17:09 GMT
#921
technics yay!
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
December 01 2009 17:14 GMT
#922
Its a clear sign though, how people try to get a top 48 spot who are maybe a little bit too weak in terms of skill ( no offense here )

Maybe u make me eat my words and start pwning people left and right an qualify by getting A-


hatred outlives the hateful
Torlak
Profile Joined August 2007
Macedonia74 Posts
December 01 2009 17:57 GMT
#923
MaNa beating A rank Koreans! Looks like the race to A+ is on. w00t!
I love mankind, it's people I can't stand.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
December 01 2009 18:13 GMT
#924
If ret didnt play zvz he would probably be A by now, too
T__T

his zvz stats are so bad compared to his ZvP and ZvT
hatred outlives the hateful
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
December 01 2009 18:16 GMT
#925
I hope MaNa keeps it up, he's really impressed me. Everyone knows ret doesn't dodge, so I don't know where these accusations come from. His zvz is probably whats holding him back right now, and thats pretty damn admirable, considering he has the ability to whip out a tvz that will shake the boots of most of the top foreign zergs.

Yay kolll... I'm glad he started, and anxious to see how he does...
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 01 2009 18:19 GMT
#926
Is Ret's ZvZ better than his TvZ yet?
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
December 01 2009 18:31 GMT
#927
no way ret would have 18-18 TvZ stats.. more like 30-6 ^^

so.. definitely not there yet..
hatred outlives the hateful
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4540 Posts
December 01 2009 18:36 GMT
#928
even if my zvz was as good as my tvz i still wouldn't have 30-6 zvz stats, maybe 24-12
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13922 Posts
December 01 2009 18:41 GMT
#929
go ret, pwn them koreans!
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
December 01 2009 18:44 GMT
#930
it's awesome that you ain't dodging those ZvZ's, it must be frustrating still :o
your ZvT & ZvP are sickgood!
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
SteffoDeffo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany48 Posts
December 01 2009 18:51 GMT
#931
8 zergs in top 12...
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
December 01 2009 19:12 GMT
#932
On December 02 2009 03:51 Cayman wrote:
8 zergs in top 12...


It's funny seeing this kind of thing world-wide, and then seeing zergs bitch about Terran :D
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28923 Posts
December 01 2009 19:22 GMT
#933
zergs dont really bitch.
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rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
December 01 2009 19:23 GMT
#934
zvt is so hard omfgomfg
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
ZZangDreamjOy
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada959 Posts
December 01 2009 19:28 GMT
#935
I just noticed, by looking in KwarK's match list, ALOT of his games are vs his own team mates in AoN, or rank lower players. Why would he do this? lol. He's going to knock someone more deserving out of the TSL ;;
HitEmUp
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 01 2009 19:49 GMT
#936
On December 02 2009 04:28 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:
I just noticed, by looking in KwarK's match list, ALOT of his games are vs his own team mates in AoN, or rank lower players. Why would he do this? lol. He's going to knock someone more deserving out of the TSL ;;

Do you seriously not understand why he would do that? I have complete and full understanding for everyone who dodges, cheeses and whatnot to get in.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
DiceToss
Profile Joined February 2008
Croatia62 Posts
December 01 2009 19:51 GMT
#937
On December 02 2009 04:28 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:
I just noticed, by looking in KwarK's match list, ALOT of his games are vs his own team mates in AoN, or rank lower players. Why would he do this? lol. He's going to knock someone more deserving out of the TSL ;;

His net score against AoN is -125 :D Are you suggesting he's trying to knock himself out ? And I have no doubts that with the standards set so high the top 48 will be the most deserving ones to advance, regardless of who they are.
GOGOG
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
December 01 2009 19:56 GMT
#938
On December 02 2009 03:36 ret wrote:
even if my zvz was as good as my tvz i still wouldn't have 30-6 zvz stats, maybe 24-12


hehe yes i know that zvz is a much more luck based match up but I still just wanted people to know u would be ranked quite a bit different if u didnt play zvz BUT we both know in the long term run playing TvZ now is no good idea .. u have to learn zvz so why not now.. even though it might hurt.. ^^


@ the guy thinking kwark will steal someones place..

I doubt that by the end of the ladder there will be somone at A- or top 48 who doesnt deserve it.. if someone else wanted the place he should have just played more and better..

hatred outlives the hateful
Kau *
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3502 Posts
December 01 2009 19:58 GMT
#939
On December 02 2009 04:12 Cedstick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2009 03:51 Cayman wrote:
8 zergs in top 12...


It's funny seeing this kind of thing world-wide, and then seeing zergs bitch about Terran :D


Wow, you see things about as well as we would expect Terrans to see DTs :D
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Pyrthas
Profile Joined March 2007
United States3196 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-01 20:08:16
December 01 2009 20:05 GMT
#940
On December 02 2009 00:44 SirGlinG wrote:
Ret has played foreigners
While technically true, that's kind of misleading.

[image loading]


And Idra has also played foreigners.
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