• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:56
CEST 16:56
KST 23:56
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun9[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists21[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid25
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced
Tourneys
SC2 INu's Battles#15 <BO.9 2Matches> GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) WardiTV Spring Cup RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event SEL Masters #6 - Solar vs Classic (SC: Evo)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss
Brood War
General
[TOOL] Starcraft Chat Translator ASL21 General Discussion JaeDong's ASL S21 Ro16 Post-Review Missed out on ASL tickets - what are my options? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Korean KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 1
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Daigo vs Menard Best of 10 Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Diablo IV
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 3D technology/software discussion Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2629 users

TSL Ladder Standings - Page 47

Forum Index > TSL2 Forum
Post a Reply
Prev 1 45 46 47 48 49 176 Next
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
December 01 2009 17:09 GMT
#921
technics yay!
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
December 01 2009 17:14 GMT
#922
Its a clear sign though, how people try to get a top 48 spot who are maybe a little bit too weak in terms of skill ( no offense here )

Maybe u make me eat my words and start pwning people left and right an qualify by getting A-


hatred outlives the hateful
Torlak
Profile Joined August 2007
Macedonia74 Posts
December 01 2009 17:57 GMT
#923
MaNa beating A rank Koreans! Looks like the race to A+ is on. w00t!
I love mankind, it's people I can't stand.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
December 01 2009 18:13 GMT
#924
If ret didnt play zvz he would probably be A by now, too
T__T

his zvz stats are so bad compared to his ZvP and ZvT
hatred outlives the hateful
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
December 01 2009 18:16 GMT
#925
I hope MaNa keeps it up, he's really impressed me. Everyone knows ret doesn't dodge, so I don't know where these accusations come from. His zvz is probably whats holding him back right now, and thats pretty damn admirable, considering he has the ability to whip out a tvz that will shake the boots of most of the top foreign zergs.

Yay kolll... I'm glad he started, and anxious to see how he does...
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 01 2009 18:19 GMT
#926
Is Ret's ZvZ better than his TvZ yet?
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
December 01 2009 18:31 GMT
#927
no way ret would have 18-18 TvZ stats.. more like 30-6 ^^

so.. definitely not there yet..
hatred outlives the hateful
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4520 Posts
December 01 2009 18:36 GMT
#928
even if my zvz was as good as my tvz i still wouldn't have 30-6 zvz stats, maybe 24-12
Team Liquid
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
December 01 2009 18:41 GMT
#929
go ret, pwn them koreans!
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
December 01 2009 18:44 GMT
#930
it's awesome that you ain't dodging those ZvZ's, it must be frustrating still :o
your ZvT & ZvP are sickgood!
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
SteffoDeffo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany48 Posts
December 01 2009 18:51 GMT
#931
8 zergs in top 12...
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
December 01 2009 19:12 GMT
#932
On December 02 2009 03:51 Cayman wrote:
8 zergs in top 12...


It's funny seeing this kind of thing world-wide, and then seeing zergs bitch about Terran :D
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28792 Posts
December 01 2009 19:22 GMT
#933
zergs dont really bitch.
Moderator
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
December 01 2009 19:23 GMT
#934
zvt is so hard omfgomfg
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
ZZangDreamjOy
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada959 Posts
December 01 2009 19:28 GMT
#935
I just noticed, by looking in KwarK's match list, ALOT of his games are vs his own team mates in AoN, or rank lower players. Why would he do this? lol. He's going to knock someone more deserving out of the TSL ;;
HitEmUp
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 01 2009 19:49 GMT
#936
On December 02 2009 04:28 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:
I just noticed, by looking in KwarK's match list, ALOT of his games are vs his own team mates in AoN, or rank lower players. Why would he do this? lol. He's going to knock someone more deserving out of the TSL ;;

Do you seriously not understand why he would do that? I have complete and full understanding for everyone who dodges, cheeses and whatnot to get in.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
DiceToss
Profile Joined February 2008
Croatia62 Posts
December 01 2009 19:51 GMT
#937
On December 02 2009 04:28 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:
I just noticed, by looking in KwarK's match list, ALOT of his games are vs his own team mates in AoN, or rank lower players. Why would he do this? lol. He's going to knock someone more deserving out of the TSL ;;

His net score against AoN is -125 :D Are you suggesting he's trying to knock himself out ? And I have no doubts that with the standards set so high the top 48 will be the most deserving ones to advance, regardless of who they are.
GOGOG
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
December 01 2009 19:56 GMT
#938
On December 02 2009 03:36 ret wrote:
even if my zvz was as good as my tvz i still wouldn't have 30-6 zvz stats, maybe 24-12


hehe yes i know that zvz is a much more luck based match up but I still just wanted people to know u would be ranked quite a bit different if u didnt play zvz BUT we both know in the long term run playing TvZ now is no good idea .. u have to learn zvz so why not now.. even though it might hurt.. ^^


@ the guy thinking kwark will steal someones place..

I doubt that by the end of the ladder there will be somone at A- or top 48 who doesnt deserve it.. if someone else wanted the place he should have just played more and better..

hatred outlives the hateful
Kau *
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3500 Posts
December 01 2009 19:58 GMT
#939
On December 02 2009 04:12 Cedstick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2009 03:51 Cayman wrote:
8 zergs in top 12...


It's funny seeing this kind of thing world-wide, and then seeing zergs bitch about Terran :D


Wow, you see things about as well as we would expect Terrans to see DTs :D
Moderator
Pyrthas
Profile Joined March 2007
United States3196 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-01 20:08:16
December 01 2009 20:05 GMT
#940
On December 02 2009 00:44 SirGlinG wrote:
Ret has played foreigners
While technically true, that's kind of misleading.

[image loading]


And Idra has also played foreigners.
Prev 1 45 46 47 48 49 176 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Big Gabe
12:00
Big Gabe Open #1
mouzHeroMarine843
TKL 255
IndyStarCraft 214
Ryung 189
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 843
TKL 255
IndyStarCraft 214
Ryung 189
LamboSC2 100
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 5780
Calm 4425
Sea 2249
Jaedong 1422
HiyA 564
Hyuk 449
Mini 401
ggaemo 357
actioN 330
Larva 269
[ Show more ]
Snow 187
Zeus 139
firebathero 123
Rush 119
ToSsGirL 82
Sharp 73
sSak 57
Sea.KH 57
Pusan 55
hero 54
Bale 38
Shinee 35
Free 33
soO 31
Sacsri 29
Rock 29
Backho 29
yabsab 28
Sexy 27
Shine 24
Movie 18
Terrorterran 17
IntoTheRainbow 14
Noble 13
GoRush 11
Dota 2
syndereN250
ODPixel179
Counter-Strike
fl0m1499
byalli580
kRYSTAL_57
adren_tv40
Other Games
singsing2207
hiko884
B2W.Neo777
DeMusliM360
Lowko341
crisheroes293
XaKoH 133
FrodaN125
QueenE66
KnowMe43
Livibee26
Trikslyr10
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 440
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream72
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 9
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 78
• poizon28 18
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 6
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1407
• TFBlade1164
• Nemesis1113
Other Games
• WagamamaTV382
• Shiphtur34
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
18h 4m
Escore
19h 4m
INu's Battles
20h 4m
Classic vs ByuN
SHIN vs ByuN
OSC
22h 4m
Big Brain Bouts
1d 1h
Replay Cast
1d 9h
Replay Cast
1d 18h
RSL Revival
1d 19h
Classic vs GgMaChine
Rogue vs Maru
WardiTV Invitational
1d 20h
IPSL
2 days
Ret vs Art_Of_Turtle
Radley vs TBD
[ Show More ]
BSL
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
herO vs TriGGeR
NightMare vs Solar
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
BSL
3 days
IPSL
3 days
eOnzErG vs TBD
G5 vs Nesh
Patches Events
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Jaedong vs Light
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Snow vs Flash
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
GSL
5 days
Classic vs Cure
Maru vs Rogue
GSL
6 days
SHIN vs Zoun
ByuN vs herO
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-29
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W5
KK 2v2 League Season 1
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.