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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 24 2011 21:30 GMT
#14901
On December 25 2011 01:48 Aeres wrote:
EDIT: Also, can we please start handing out warnings and/or bans for people who chronically misuse the term "troll"? I'm getting sick of seeing naïveté, hostility, jokes, and other unrelated actions being labeled as trolling, and I'm sure others are as well. There's a thread right now in SC2 General with the OP discussing Carriers (in a manner indicating unfamiliarity with the forum guidelines, which is bad, but understandable), and the first reply is "Replay or troll." It's frustrating to see the meaning and context of a perfectly suitable phrase become inexorably perverted by the same sort of people who use "bonjwa" to describe anyone who performs fairly well at a tournament.


On December 25 2011 03:34 marttorn wrote:
Yeah, it seems "troll" is attributed to anything even slightly stupid on the internet (i'm guilty of it too). People seem to think that everyone on the internet is some sort of hyper-intelligent master of sarcasm and wit, when in reality, "trolling" is just a shitty excuse used by idiots when they've lost an argument (if such a thing is possible on the internet), or have been exposed as a complete twat. Sure, there is legitimate trolling, but I agree with Aeres that the term has become far too general, and certain people will just attribute it to anything that's out of line.

"Do not attribute to malice trolling what can adequately be explained by stupidity"


I love both of you for this. All of my friends and colleagues at school are on the bandwagon where anything at all is labeled as trolling if it is slightly derogatory, humorous, or even done in a joking fashion. It enrages me. It's getting on the same level as people overusing memes...that meme wedding proposal video that everyone loves actually enrages me. It's cool that he proposed and that she said yes, but still...come on. It's like everyone wants to be included in some secret club that uses memes and trolling and AAAAAARRRGHH.

That is my rant. Please, carry on with your holiday season.
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NicolBolas
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1388 Posts
December 25 2011 01:02 GMT
#14902
On December 25 2011 05:56 Fruscainte wrote:
"Troll" has lost its meaning, much like the word "hate" or "love" in today's colloquial use. A troll used to be someone actually really god damn smart.


When? When was this ever the case? And most importantly, among whom was this ever the case?

I've never heard of "troll" being so narrowly defined as to exclude anyone who wasn't actually good at trolling. This kind of "definition" sounds to me like people who don't allow the possibility of bad art by simply redefining the word "art" to include an accessment of quality.

Trolls are people who are trying to stir up trouble and get a reaction, period. Someone is trolling when they say something (regardless of whether it is their real opinion) in order to get a reaction from people. Whether they're good at it is irrelevant; that's what they do. You don't get a promotion from "trouble maker" to "troll" just because you happen to be sufficiently good at it.
So you know, cats are interesting. They are kind of like girls. If they come up and talk to you, it's great. But if you try to talk to them, it doesn't always go so well. - Shigeru Miyamoto
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
December 25 2011 01:19 GMT
#14903
On December 25 2011 10:02 NicolBolas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2011 05:56 Fruscainte wrote:
"Troll" has lost its meaning, much like the word "hate" or "love" in today's colloquial use. A troll used to be someone actually really god damn smart.


You don't get a promotion from "trouble maker" to "troll" just because you happen to be sufficiently good at it.


You're right, it's when you are witty and intelligent about it.

See, I can take just one sentence out of an entire argument and base my entire retort around it too.

Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
December 25 2011 02:15 GMT
#14904
Huh

ArtisaBang was just banned by Harem.

That account was created on 2011-12-18 05:28:31 and had 195 posts.

Reason: Previously banned user.

t.t I don't know how to quote from different threads, 4k posts and still newb ><, but I was just wondering how it took 200 posts to find out he was previously banned, because he got a couple warnings I think for being an ass? not sure. Or do you generally give some leeway for previously banned users.

Only asking because I mostly see it as a reason in 0 or 1 post users banned, sorry if this is the wrong thread to be asking >.>
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Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
December 25 2011 02:25 GMT
#14905
On December 25 2011 11:15 Badfatpanda wrote:
Huh

ArtisaBang was just banned by Harem.

That account was created on 2011-12-18 05:28:31 and had 195 posts.

Reason: Previously banned user.

t.t I don't know how to quote from different threads, 4k posts and still newb ><, but I was just wondering how it took 200 posts to find out he was previously banned, because he got a couple warnings I think for being an ass? not sure. Or do you generally give some leeway for previously banned users.

Only asking because I mostly see it as a reason in 0 or 1 post users banned, sorry if this is the wrong thread to be asking >.>


You can click on the "#" icon on the top right side of the post to link directly to a post in another thread
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
December 25 2011 02:27 GMT
#14906
It's not always immediately apparent if a user is a PBU. Sometimes, it takes a PBU drawing enough attention to himself for a mod to do some research and make the connection. Fortunately, most are stupid and make themselves known immediately.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
December 25 2011 02:55 GMT
#14907
On December 25 2011 11:27 Aeres wrote:
It's not always immediately apparent if a user is a PBU. Sometimes, it takes a PBU drawing enough attention to himself for a mod to do some research and make the connection. Fortunately, most are stupid and make themselves known immediately.


Ah, I figured it was mostly IP based, thanks! that makes more sense.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50902 Posts
December 25 2011 03:00 GMT
#14908
On December 25 2011 11:27 Aeres wrote:
It's not always immediately apparent if a user is a PBU. Sometimes, it takes a PBU drawing enough attention to himself for a mod to do some research and make the connection. Fortunately, most are stupid and make themselves known immediately.


no, its IP based, unless you did something like change your IP they will know exactly who you are when you register.
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Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
December 25 2011 03:08 GMT
#14909
On December 25 2011 12:00 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2011 11:27 Aeres wrote:
It's not always immediately apparent if a user is a PBU. Sometimes, it takes a PBU drawing enough attention to himself for a mod to do some research and make the connection. Fortunately, most are stupid and make themselves known immediately.


no, its IP based, unless you did something like change your IP they will know exactly who you are when you register.


It doesn't take a rocket scientist to press the reset button on your router you know.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37076 Posts
December 25 2011 04:37 GMT
#14910
On December 25 2011 12:08 Fruscainte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2011 12:00 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On December 25 2011 11:27 Aeres wrote:
It's not always immediately apparent if a user is a PBU. Sometimes, it takes a PBU drawing enough attention to himself for a mod to do some research and make the connection. Fortunately, most are stupid and make themselves known immediately.


no, its IP based, unless you did something like change your IP they will know exactly who you are when you register.


It doesn't take a rocket scientist to press the reset button on your router you know.

I thought u had to call your internet company and request an IP change?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Peanut Butter
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada155 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 04:42:20
December 25 2011 04:40 GMT
#14911
On December 25 2011 12:08 Fruscainte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2011 12:00 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On December 25 2011 11:27 Aeres wrote:
It's not always immediately apparent if a user is a PBU. Sometimes, it takes a PBU drawing enough attention to himself for a mod to do some research and make the connection. Fortunately, most are stupid and make themselves known immediately.


no, its IP based, unless you did something like change your IP they will know exactly who you are when you register.


It doesn't take a rocket scientist to press the reset button on your router you know.


Unless you have a fixed IP, which I don't think is that uncommon for the demography that uses this site.

Edit: You can reset your IP by disconnecting your modem if you have access to it (I use to do it all the time when I was watching online videos, but that was before I moved onto campus and then I got a fixed IP)
Did you see that? Exactly
BobTheLob
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada362 Posts
December 25 2011 04:55 GMT
#14912

paintfive was just temp banned for 1 week by motbob.

That account was created on 2011-09-07 23:42:07 and had 220 posts.

Reason: Your troll was more creative than most, but that's not going to stop me from banning you.


This was a troll... how? post in question
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253634&currentpage=369#7368
I mean people don't like that but how was it trolling?
BobTheLob Lurker extraordinaire
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
December 25 2011 06:28 GMT
#14913
I don't think the TL mods take kindly to people who deface their mascot in any way. One guy was perm'd for saying "I dont really like ponies" in regards to animals.
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Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
December 25 2011 06:52 GMT
#14914
On December 25 2011 15:28 Belial88 wrote:
I don't think the TL mods take kindly to people who deface their mascot in any way. One guy was perm'd for saying "I dont really like ponies" in regards to animals.

This is quite hard to believe. Can you find the ban in question?
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
December 25 2011 07:08 GMT
#14915
On December 25 2011 13:55 BobTheLob wrote:
Show nested quote +

paintfive was just temp banned for 1 week by motbob.

That account was created on 2011-09-07 23:42:07 and had 220 posts.

Reason: Your troll was more creative than most, but that's not going to stop me from banning you.


This was a troll... how? post in question
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253634&currentpage=369#7368
I mean people don't like that but how was it trolling?


Apparently the guy didn't actually draw it and didn't originally spoiler it.

Also really it's really disgusting and inappropriate.

...

>.>

...


<.<

...

clop clop clop clop clop clop clop clop....

+ Show Spoiler +
jk

maybe

you'll never know which hee hee

I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
December 25 2011 07:11 GMT
#14916
It's furry porn from a subreddit. He posted it to get a rise out of people.



Thank you fusion for burning that term into my brain until my next drinking binge.
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TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
December 25 2011 07:20 GMT
#14917
On December 25 2011 16:11 Probe1 wrote:
to get a rise out of people.


hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

lmao
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
BobTheLob
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada362 Posts
December 25 2011 07:24 GMT
#14918
On December 25 2011 16:11 Probe1 wrote:
It's furry porn from a subreddit. He posted it to get a rise out of people.



Thank you fusion for burning that term into my brain until my next drinking binge.

So about 4 hours? I kid I kid but really from a subreddit -_- I still want to see a ban reason say "go back to reddit"
BobTheLob Lurker extraordinaire
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
December 25 2011 07:50 GMT
#14919
On December 25 2011 15:52 Aeres wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2011 15:28 Belial88 wrote:
I don't think the TL mods take kindly to people who deface their mascot in any way. One guy was perm'd for saying "I dont really like ponies" in regards to animals.

This is quite hard to believe. Can you find the ban in question?


I could, but it'd take a while. I think some people were bitching about "This is what it feels like to be banned from TL" on r/sc and one of the guys said that. It was his first post I believe too.
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SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
December 25 2011 08:13 GMT
#14920
On December 25 2011 16:50 Belial88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2011 15:52 Aeres wrote:
On December 25 2011 15:28 Belial88 wrote:
I don't think the TL mods take kindly to people who deface their mascot in any way. One guy was perm'd for saying "I dont really like ponies" in regards to animals.

This is quite hard to believe. Can you find the ban in question?


I could, but it'd take a while. I think some people were bitching about "This is what it feels like to be banned from TL" on r/sc and one of the guys said that. It was his first post I believe too.


That might be why. TL mods are normally quite suspicious of new users coming on and saying bannable stuff, because there's a far higher chance they are PBUs. Whereas if you've been around for a while, keeping your head down and only posting in fanclubs (well, not the Idra one..), strategy guides etc, you're less likely to get labelled as trouble and insta-banned.

I could be talking absolute bollocks right now, that's just my take on it.
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