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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
December 06 2011 10:17 GMT
#14341
On December 06 2011 18:08 Probe1 wrote:
Man why did you have to come up with such a frustratingly accurate adage? I'm just whiny cause NASL/MLG LRs are basically unreadable for me. I used to think that MoonBear was overreacting a little when he quit LRing but now I understand. Daytime SC2 LRs are a mess :/

I get a little elitist about GSL LRs but they're only better because of the inopportune hours for most of the western tournaments.

Your adage really was spot on though.

I still enjoy SC2, but not through LR or LR Threads. I instead just talk with people through the League of Legends Client. =/

I must admit, there was one time where I considered picking up SC2 LR again so I decided to venture to the LR Threads to have a look. But the thread had been locked because apparently the quality of posts was that bad. I think it was last MLG Providence Day 1? That kinda killed any fleeting thoughts of doing more SC2 LR. On the plus side, the TL Twitter LR seems alright (I think Flamewheel does that?) and it's hard to compete against instant on the moment LR that can be featured on the OP of a thread. So I think LR will still be fine.

I'm not sure if I want to LR the TSL4 anymore. To me, the TSL has a special place since it's when I remember it as the time I stepped up my standards and finally decided on how I would LR properly. But if things keep looking the way they are, I'm just not sure.

On the side note, I'm still happy that at least my LoL Forums and ADT are still chugging along nicely. ^^
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Percutio
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1672 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 11:25:23
December 06 2011 11:18 GMT
#14342
2009 bisu vs shine was still bad too haha

Golden era is not protected from shine's cheese (:
What does it matter how I loose it?
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
December 06 2011 11:31 GMT
#14343
Maybe they should implement a perm ban from LR threads just as they do with the strat forum.
Espelz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany826 Posts
December 06 2011 11:52 GMT
#14344
On December 06 2011 20:31 nam nam wrote:
Maybe they should implement a perm ban from LR threads just as they do with the strat forum.


Don´t think that would be possible (technically)...
They could probably ban from the sc2 tourney forum though, which would be pretty much the same. Personally I would have no problem with banning those people globally though. If you behave like a total ass in one area you don´t really deserve posting at all.

The strat forum bans are mostly designed for people who try hard but just have no clue and tend to give terrible advice, so its a totally different situation. Its more to protect people seeking good advice from getting bad advice.
"Its not over till Fantasy gg´s" - Sayle
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
December 06 2011 12:11 GMT
#14345
I was (mostly) kidding anyway. There's plenty of newer posters getting banned as well so it wouldn't help with that. I wouldn't mind some more restrictive punishments though.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
December 06 2011 17:04 GMT
#14346
Oh the memories of Shine hate =) Good times, good times...
Remember this? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=244355
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
December 06 2011 17:51 GMT
#14347
I only use the GSL LR's when I stay up late to watch it, or the OPs to see results of tourneys I don't want to/cant' watch.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25555 Posts
December 06 2011 17:53 GMT
#14348
I've actually never read or commented in an LR while it was happening. Sometimes I end up reading a few posts in one while following a funny ban... but generally I tend to confine myself to chatting with some friends or chilling in irc or teamspeak during tournaments.

As horrendous as the quality of Sc2 LR threads may be (from what i've heard) it seems like this is as much a function of the sheer popularity of the events and size of the sc2 community-- as the number of viewers increases, the number of people writing bad posts will increase.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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impression
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
413 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 16:47:17
December 06 2011 19:40 GMT
#14349
It would be nice if the people wanting to make terrible comments kept it to the stream chat or somewhere other than a TL forum though. I don't know how people just don't ever learn from previous LRs. They see the warnings, they see what other people get banned for and they usually participate in more than one LR. And yet it is still necessary to ban so many people for things they should should know better for.
Sigh. Time for a chocolate chip and almond croissant muffin. Yes, it exists.
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Tortious_Tortoise
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States944 Posts
December 06 2011 19:40 GMT
#14350
Sorry I'm late to the party, but I just came across this:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=32696&currentpage=1057#21149

Is it often that a person is banned without being banned for a trashy post?
Treating eSports as a social science since 2011; Credo: "The system is never wrong"-- Day9 Daily #400 Part 3
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15355 Posts
December 06 2011 19:43 GMT
#14351
Sure, that happens all the time.

In fact, hardly ever are people banned just for one post. One particular post might be the last thing to tip the scale, but moderation always takes the user's history into account.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
NoobieOne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1183 Posts
December 06 2011 19:50 GMT
#14352
On December 07 2011 04:43 zatic wrote:
Sure, that happens all the time.

In fact, hardly ever are people banned just for one post. One particular post might be the last thing to tip the scale, but moderation always takes the user's history into account.


I think he meant their actions rather their posts. For example she was banned for being the subject of those posts.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19299 Posts
December 06 2011 19:58 GMT
#14353
On December 06 2011 17:26 Percutio wrote:
Well sometimes BW live reports get a little crazy, like when SKT/bisu fans occasionally go insane. Although it feels more like tradition <3
That and people do get banned if it gets out of control so it still is different.

Zero bans so far. Maybe I'm not trying hard enough as a Bisu fan.

On December 05 2011 11:39 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 10:57 Probulous wrote:
On December 05 2011 10:47 Probe1 wrote:
Thanks Jibba. Nothing else to say.
Woooow checked the thread. That got stupid fast.


Here is round two

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=291557&currentpage=All

Edit: Clammy pooch

That thread made my evening much funnier, thank you Probe.

And yes thank you for this. How did I miss getting posts in there. Must....TL...MORE!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
December 06 2011 20:12 GMT
#14354
On December 06 2011 18:25 Hyde wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 06 2011 18:14 ShadeR wrote:
Ahh my bad Hyde. The furthest i can narrow it down to is a fairly high post count protoss SKT fan. =P

That's actually one of the first things that come to my mind when I think of BW LR rage

I found it, it was dukethegold
On November 26 2010 22:25 dukethegold wrote:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

BAN ME! I AM DONE WITH BW!

User was temp banned for this post.

More rage from the thread lol, rage starts around here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=171988&currentpage=28
On November 26 2010 22:26 Kiante wrote:
What a fucking shitty OSL we have coming up. Could've had zero kwanro bisu, now we get shine hogil hydra


FUCK THIS SHIT

FUCKING CHEESY PIECE OF SHIT SHINE FUCK

User was temp banned for this post.

On November 26 2010 22:26 Fenrax wrote:
FUCK YOU SHINE FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

just fuck you, fucking fuck bullshit fuck crap i hate you so much

plz go on 0-50 slump now, I dont want to ever see your face again

User was temp banned for this post.

On November 26 2010 22:25 pyrogenetix wrote:
FUCK YOU SHINE FUCK YOU IN THE FUCKING ASS YOU ASSHOLE

User was temp banned for this post.

On November 26 2010 22:23 doothegee wrote:
SKT TEARS
I WANT MORE
MORE
MORE

User was temp banned for this post.


This was the best LR thread ever. I mean, yeah it kind of hurts, but... LOL.

I feel like I have so much to live up to as a Bisu fan. How will I ever be able to express that amount of rage?

+ Show Spoiler +
Especially since, you know, Bisu's going to destroy Shine and win the next OSL. tchyeah.
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bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
December 06 2011 20:13 GMT
#14355
On December 07 2011 04:50 NoobieOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 04:43 zatic wrote:
Sure, that happens all the time.

In fact, hardly ever are people banned just for one post. One particular post might be the last thing to tip the scale, but moderation always takes the user's history into account.


I think he meant their actions rather their posts. For example she was banned for being the subject of those posts.

I think it's perfectly reasonable for TL to not want to be a staging area for her shenanigans.
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37044 Posts
December 06 2011 21:03 GMT
#14356
On December 06 2011 19:17 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 18:08 Probe1 wrote:
Man why did you have to come up with such a frustratingly accurate adage? I'm just whiny cause NASL/MLG LRs are basically unreadable for me. I used to think that MoonBear was overreacting a little when he quit LRing but now I understand. Daytime SC2 LRs are a mess :/

I get a little elitist about GSL LRs but they're only better because of the inopportune hours for most of the western tournaments.

Your adage really was spot on though.

I still enjoy SC2, but not through LR or LR Threads. I instead just talk with people through the League of Legends Client. =/

I must admit, there was one time where I considered picking up SC2 LR again so I decided to venture to the LR Threads to have a look. But the thread had been locked because apparently the quality of posts was that bad. I think it was last MLG Providence Day 1? That kinda killed any fleeting thoughts of doing more SC2 LR. On the plus side, the TL Twitter LR seems alright (I think Flamewheel does that?) and it's hard to compete against instant on the moment LR that can be featured on the OP of a thread. So I think LR will still be fine.

I'm not sure if I want to LR the TSL4 anymore. To me, the TSL has a special place since it's when I remember it as the time I stepped up my standards and finally decided on how I would LR properly. But if things keep looking the way they are, I'm just not sure.

On the side note, I'm still happy that at least my LoL Forums and ADT are still chugging along nicely. ^^


Really? I've recently been doing the GSL LR threads and I honestly have to say I don't see a lot of mess or trash or flaming going on. Occasionally yes, but all in all, ppl just really love to watch the games.

I've also been taking a lot of time trying to see what I can do to improve GSL LR threads and ppl always give me feedback and suggestions, so I find LR as the most enjoyable thing ever on TL.

And yes, it is true that GSL's inconvenient times does not really allow for many viewers but, I honestly don't see the GSL LR threads as that bad. DH and MLG maybe.... but even then it's constantly moderated so it's fine right?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
December 06 2011 21:32 GMT
#14357
^You'll get two people engaged in argument, and that will be bad, but as a whole the threads are nice.
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37044 Posts
December 06 2011 21:33 GMT
#14358
On December 07 2011 06:32 McFeser wrote:
^You'll get two people engaged in argument, and that will be bad, but as a whole the threads are nice.


For GSL? or MLG, or DH, or IPL?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 22:03:55
December 06 2011 22:00 GMT
#14359
On December 07 2011 06:33 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 06:32 McFeser wrote:
^You'll get two people engaged in argument, and that will be bad, but as a whole the threads are nice.


For GSL? or MLG, or DH, or IPL?

The GSL threads are good (Probably because of the late hours), MLG threads move so fast that it's kind of hard to notive the bad posters (lol), and I really liked the IPL LR (I really like checking the thread to see what was happening on the premium streams). I don't ussualy catch the Dreamhack threads so I don't how they are.

Either way your OPs kick ass.

Edit: And if you look at the MLG threads, they have 500-700 pages, so of course there is going to be a few rotten eggs. I think what happens is when there is nothing to talk about (or people are tired about talking about the games) then horribly useless arguments start to fester. I remember the NASL LR got sidetracked for 40 pages because one guys accussed another fellow of rascism.
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
December 06 2011 22:16 GMT
#14360
I brought it up because the ACE v T8 thread didn't need to be moderated. Even in the GSL thread there will be at least a handful of warnings. Maybe I'm going at the whole thing with rose tinted glasses but SC2 threads...
..
They're just atrocious. I never really read the MLG/NASL ones until I opened a LR thread for MLG one time... That scarred me enough not to read one again. Only recently have I been actively participating in Code S LRs and while the amount of blatant shit talk, random hate and j3wetiuawe4rt inb4 u mad posts are disgruntling- the GSL threads are okay on a whole.

But reading the BW thread last night.. it just broke my heart to see a bunch of people happy to watch games and talk about them without the need to incessantly flame each other and the players.
+ Show Spoiler [Results spoiler] +
And ace was blown out =/ .
Yeah, over the years there are so many examples of a lotta rage but ... gah, the Bisu vs Shine example I just see passionate fans outraged. In MLG it's like /b/. It's not even /v/, it's straight up fast bad into lose.
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