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McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
December 06 2011 22:35 GMT
#14361
I don't read the BW threads but I imagine they carry a much more mature audience. Even still, I would say SC2 has a pretty mature audience if you compare it to the typical website that caters to our demographic (Males 18 - 25). Some of the forums on other websites, and how rampant elitism/memes our accepted as a general way of talking, is a pretty stark contrast to TL LR threads. Like I said, they can get pretty bad but generally they are pretty good.

I don't visit 4chan so I don't how it compares to that.
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
December 06 2011 22:50 GMT
#14362
On December 07 2011 07:16 Probe1 wrote:
I brought it up because the ACE v T8 thread didn't need to be moderated. Even in the GSL thread there will be at least a handful of warnings. Maybe I'm going at the whole thing with rose tinted glasses but SC2 threads...
..
They're just atrocious. I never really read the MLG/NASL ones until I opened a LR thread for MLG one time... That scarred me enough not to read one again. Only recently have I been actively participating in Code S LRs and while the amount of blatant shit talk, random hate and j3wetiuawe4rt inb4 u mad posts are disgruntling- the GSL threads are okay on a whole.

But reading the BW thread last night.. it just broke my heart to see a bunch of people happy to watch games and talk about them without the need to incessantly flame each other and the players.
+ Show Spoiler [Results spoiler] +
And ace was blown out =/ .
Yeah, over the years there are so many examples of a lotta rage but ... gah, the Bisu vs Shine example I just see passionate fans outraged. In MLG it's like /b/. It's not even /v/, it's straight up fast bad into lose.

You are 100% correct; but SC2 LR threads are only going to get better with more mature and better posters sticking around and posting by example. It also helps having more people with a report button in the threads that need reporting. The moderation on this site is good enough that the shit will get cleaned up - especially if Nyovne is around :p

SC2 threads are also passionate fans - they are just new posters that aren't used to this forums posting standards. I don't want to totally defend LR threads, because they can be a disgusting cesspool but i don't think it's worth entirely giving up on
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
December 06 2011 22:55 GMT
#14363
I think additional moderators need to be picked up just for LRs. In my theorycrafting head (without any evidence except anecdotal conversations et cetera) it's going to burn even the banbot out =/
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
December 06 2011 23:09 GMT
#14364
I don't know - most of the times there are enough moderators that the mess eventually gets cleaned up. Especially if people are actively reporting. LR threads move so quickly though so it would be tough no matter how many mods there are; i am interested in the number of backlogged reports there are during big events like MLG/DH/IPL etc and if they would need the extra help.

On the plus side - LR threads help weed out the shitty posters and since banning requirements are a lot lower in an LR thread, it sort of works like a forum clean up even if it is only for 2 days
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
December 06 2011 23:12 GMT
#14365
On December 07 2011 07:55 Probe1 wrote:
I think additional moderators need to be picked up just for LRs. In my theorycrafting head (without any evidence except anecdotal conversations et cetera) it's going to burn even the banbot out =/

No it's only bad when something controversial happens (IdrA loses, upsets, EG plays, etc.)
And as more people who just joined for SC2 get their report buttons the modding will get easier. More and more people will come to understand TL's standards of posting as well, and ofc the influx of new users will settle down as the game's been out for awhile.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 23:24:04
December 06 2011 23:23 GMT
#14366
I'd like to think it's a short term problem as well. I didn't mean to imply things get missed! I was concerned that moderators would get tired of it eventually and like Nyovne for example: nearly all of their posts on TL turn into ones concerning moderation or it's policies. With more moderators the individual workload would be easier. Tl;dr I nominate rekrul and haji as moderators

(yeah, I can't see MiR, I have no idea if what I'm saying is a load of crap or not. I'm going to shut up after this post; I just wanted to express concern.)
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Techno
Profile Joined June 2010
1900 Posts
December 06 2011 23:25 GMT
#14367
On December 04 2011 19:59 RockIronrod wrote
Build a fucking Raven. Build 2. Get some damned detection of some kind. All other races need to get it, you should too.
For a Zerg to snipe it you're either being utterly retarded with your control or they had to fly over an army of marines, then bunch up to target fire it making them susceptible to a Thor volley, meaning they lost a shit tonne more then they gained in sniping the Raven.
If you want, you could even get HSM which would either take out a large clump of mutas or force them to disengage for a bit. A single spell in battle will either win it straight out or at least force the air army to back the fuck up.
In any case, please build a fucking raven before there's some major buffs/nerfs that are entirely unneeded.

User was temp banned for this post.


This man speaks the truth.

I'm a Terran & I'm gonna build a raven now.
haha
Hell, its awesome to LOSE to nukes!
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
December 06 2011 23:31 GMT
#14368
On December 07 2011 06:03 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 19:17 MoonBear wrote:
On December 06 2011 18:08 Probe1 wrote:
Man why did you have to come up with such a frustratingly accurate adage? I'm just whiny cause NASL/MLG LRs are basically unreadable for me. I used to think that MoonBear was overreacting a little when he quit LRing but now I understand. Daytime SC2 LRs are a mess :/

I get a little elitist about GSL LRs but they're only better because of the inopportune hours for most of the western tournaments.

Your adage really was spot on though.

I still enjoy SC2, but not through LR or LR Threads. I instead just talk with people through the League of Legends Client. =/

I must admit, there was one time where I considered picking up SC2 LR again so I decided to venture to the LR Threads to have a look. But the thread had been locked because apparently the quality of posts was that bad. I think it was last MLG Providence Day 1? That kinda killed any fleeting thoughts of doing more SC2 LR. On the plus side, the TL Twitter LR seems alright (I think Flamewheel does that?) and it's hard to compete against instant on the moment LR that can be featured on the OP of a thread. So I think LR will still be fine.

I'm not sure if I want to LR the TSL4 anymore. To me, the TSL has a special place since it's when I remember it as the time I stepped up my standards and finally decided on how I would LR properly. But if things keep looking the way they are, I'm just not sure.

On the side note, I'm still happy that at least my LoL Forums and ADT are still chugging along nicely. ^^


Really? I've recently been doing the GSL LR threads and I honestly have to say I don't see a lot of mess or trash or flaming going on. Occasionally yes, but all in all, ppl just really love to watch the games.

I've also been taking a lot of time trying to see what I can do to improve GSL LR threads and ppl always give me feedback and suggestions, so I find LR as the most enjoyable thing ever on TL.

And yes, it is true that GSL's inconvenient times does not really allow for many viewers but, I honestly don't see the GSL LR threads as that bad. DH and MLG maybe.... but even then it's constantly moderated so it's fine right?


I LOVE YOU SEEKER!!!

Ok, maybe that was a little strong. Thanks mate, your LR is awesome. I think the biggest issue with LR in SC2 is that people don't realise what they are there for. It is supposed to allow people who can't watch, a running report of the game.

I mean when people have to write these kinds of posts
On December 05 2011 14:12 Belisarius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 14:11 Kharnage wrote:
On December 05 2011 14:10 Hopelessnoob wrote:
hero is dead...


On December 05 2011 14:10 nath wrote:
puma did very well.

i dont see how hero loses at this point.
Ahhh this game, so stressfull!

Show nested quote +



WTF just happened?!?!?


This LR is among the most confusing I've ever seen. Little love for people who can't get the stream right now?


Something is seriously wrong. Most posts in the thread are not ban worthy, they are just shit for people who can't watch. Here are the posts from that page
+ Show Spoiler +

Does Puma have any workers left?

This game is insane, HerO is my new favorite Protoss

LOL... all probes are leaving

insane game

terrible job by puma. everything was just badly played

THIS IS INSANE.

THIS IS SO INTESE.

Make a robo!

HERO U HAVE TO BEAT THIS!

Ahhh this game, so stressfull!

Hero has the economy, but that army of Puma just looks too strong

This map is too large for Puma to deal with the hidden expansion.

Needs a robo up asap, cloak will kill him.

This is a joke. Hero playing perfectly and the game somehow isn't over. I hate watching this game sometimes.

base race inc, I don't see HerO taking this, though PuMa has no income and many probes survived.

Hero needs time... Alot of it...

I'm sorry... this is so dumb. Supply lead, superior econ... struggle anyway.


In short mega thanks to seeker, because no-one else bothered to report.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
December 06 2011 23:32 GMT
#14369
Well he didn't get temp'd yet. Wonder how long it'll take for someone to read that post and temp him for martyring lol.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
December 06 2011 23:49 GMT
#14370
Imagine the first major LR thread after the winterstop...
Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37082 Posts
December 06 2011 23:57 GMT
#14371
On December 07 2011 07:00 McFeser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 06:33 Seeker wrote:
On December 07 2011 06:32 McFeser wrote:
^You'll get two people engaged in argument, and that will be bad, but as a whole the threads are nice.


For GSL? or MLG, or DH, or IPL?

The GSL threads are good (Probably because of the late hours), MLG threads move so fast that it's kind of hard to notive the bad posters (lol), and I really liked the IPL LR (I really like checking the thread to see what was happening on the premium streams). I don't ussualy catch the Dreamhack threads so I don't how they are.

Either way your OPs kick ass.

Edit: And if you look at the MLG threads, they have 500-700 pages, so of course there is going to be a few rotten eggs. I think what happens is when there is nothing to talk about (or people are tired about talking about the games) then horribly useless arguments start to fester. I remember the NASL LR got sidetracked for 40 pages because one guys accussed another fellow of rascism.

On December 07 2011 08:31 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 06:03 Seeker wrote:
On December 06 2011 19:17 MoonBear wrote:
On December 06 2011 18:08 Probe1 wrote:
Man why did you have to come up with such a frustratingly accurate adage? I'm just whiny cause NASL/MLG LRs are basically unreadable for me. I used to think that MoonBear was overreacting a little when he quit LRing but now I understand. Daytime SC2 LRs are a mess :/

I get a little elitist about GSL LRs but they're only better because of the inopportune hours for most of the western tournaments.

Your adage really was spot on though.

I still enjoy SC2, but not through LR or LR Threads. I instead just talk with people through the League of Legends Client. =/

I must admit, there was one time where I considered picking up SC2 LR again so I decided to venture to the LR Threads to have a look. But the thread had been locked because apparently the quality of posts was that bad. I think it was last MLG Providence Day 1? That kinda killed any fleeting thoughts of doing more SC2 LR. On the plus side, the TL Twitter LR seems alright (I think Flamewheel does that?) and it's hard to compete against instant on the moment LR that can be featured on the OP of a thread. So I think LR will still be fine.

I'm not sure if I want to LR the TSL4 anymore. To me, the TSL has a special place since it's when I remember it as the time I stepped up my standards and finally decided on how I would LR properly. But if things keep looking the way they are, I'm just not sure.

On the side note, I'm still happy that at least my LoL Forums and ADT are still chugging along nicely. ^^


Really? I've recently been doing the GSL LR threads and I honestly have to say I don't see a lot of mess or trash or flaming going on. Occasionally yes, but all in all, ppl just really love to watch the games.

I've also been taking a lot of time trying to see what I can do to improve GSL LR threads and ppl always give me feedback and suggestions, so I find LR as the most enjoyable thing ever on TL.

And yes, it is true that GSL's inconvenient times does not really allow for many viewers but, I honestly don't see the GSL LR threads as that bad. DH and MLG maybe.... but even then it's constantly moderated so it's fine right?


I LOVE YOU SEEKER!!!

Ok, maybe that was a little strong. Thanks mate, your LR is awesome. I think the biggest issue with LR in SC2 is that people don't realise what they are there for. It is supposed to allow people who can't watch, a running report of the game.

I mean when people have to write these kinds of posts
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 14:12 Belisarius wrote:
On December 05 2011 14:11 Kharnage wrote:
On December 05 2011 14:10 Hopelessnoob wrote:
hero is dead...


On December 05 2011 14:10 nath wrote:
puma did very well.

i dont see how hero loses at this point.
Ahhh this game, so stressfull!




WTF just happened?!?!?


This LR is among the most confusing I've ever seen. Little love for people who can't get the stream right now?


Something is seriously wrong. Most posts in the thread are not ban worthy, they are just shit for people who can't watch. Here are the posts from that page
+ Show Spoiler +

Does Puma have any workers left?

This game is insane, HerO is my new favorite Protoss

LOL... all probes are leaving

insane game

terrible job by puma. everything was just badly played

THIS IS INSANE.

THIS IS SO INTESE.

Make a robo!

HERO U HAVE TO BEAT THIS!

Ahhh this game, so stressfull!

Hero has the economy, but that army of Puma just looks too strong

This map is too large for Puma to deal with the hidden expansion.

Needs a robo up asap, cloak will kill him.

This is a joke. Hero playing perfectly and the game somehow isn't over. I hate watching this game sometimes.

base race inc, I don't see HerO taking this, though PuMa has no income and many probes survived.

Hero needs time... Alot of it...

I'm sorry... this is so dumb. Supply lead, superior econ... struggle anyway.


In short mega thanks to seeker, because no-one else bothered to report.


Haha, Thx guys, for the love and support.

SC2 LR will keep thriving, I know it will. "The night is always darkest before the dawn."
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 00:01:30
December 07 2011 00:01 GMT
#14372
Just wait till Bisu gets knocked out of the OSL prelims again.

Preferably by a Zerg, Hyvaa or Shine.
WriterXiao8~~
BobTheLob
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada362 Posts
December 07 2011 00:45 GMT
#14373
hmm I wonder if saying "go back to reddit" in response to a image post would be warn-able
BobTheLob Lurker extraordinaire
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
December 07 2011 01:02 GMT
#14374
On December 07 2011 09:01 Kipsate wrote:
Just wait till Bisu gets knocked out of the OSL prelims again.

Preferably by a Zerg, Hyvaa or Shine.


what a bogus prediction
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 01:06:09
December 07 2011 01:04 GMT
#14375
On December 07 2011 09:01 Kipsate wrote:
Just wait till Bisu gets knocked out of the OSL prelims again.

Preferably by a Zerg, Hyvaa or Shine.


I have a better scenario for you: Bisu gets knocked out of the prelims by Hyvaa. However, due to some unforeseen circumstance, there is a wild card tournament,which he is eligible for. Bisu then proceeds to get knocked out of it by Shine.

Can you imagine what would happen, ha-ha-ha!
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27173 Posts
December 07 2011 01:06 GMT
#14376
rofl
ModeratorGodfather
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
December 07 2011 01:09 GMT
#14377
On December 07 2011 10:04 Nikon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 09:01 Kipsate wrote:
Just wait till Bisu gets knocked out of the OSL prelims again.

Preferably by a Zerg, Hyvaa or Shine.


I have a better scenario for you: Bisu gets knocked out of the prelims by Hyvaa. However, due to some unforeseen circumstance, there is a wild card tournament,which he is eligible for. Bisu then proceeds to get knocked out of it by Shine.

Can you imagine what would happen, ha-ha-ha!


T____T

.....

actually I think I'd be laughing at that too.
Writer:o
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
December 07 2011 01:38 GMT
#14378
On December 07 2011 09:01 Kipsate wrote:
Just wait till Bisu gets knocked out of the OSL prelims again.

Preferably by a Zerg, Hyvaa or Shine.

Hyuk will destroy Bisu, then Fantasy. Then whomever to win the next OSL. I'll go full on fanboy, + Show Spoiler +
and probably get banned for a bunch of dumb posts
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
December 07 2011 02:10 GMT
#14379
Bisu's OSL woes are hilarious simply because it's insane. He REPEATEDLY loses to the race that he is like 70% vs . It makes no sense!?!?!
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
December 07 2011 02:26 GMT
#14380
Wait, is this the guy that requested a perm a while back?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=292130
The new account was made ~2-3 weeks after the initial permaban.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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