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Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9183 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-21 16:14:16
December 21 2019 16:14 GMT
#61441
On December 22 2019 00:44 Ej_ wrote:
All goes back to TL not having an ignore button


I'm pretty sure a lot of people would still prefer to report instead of ignoring.
You're now breathing manually
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 21 2019 17:40 GMT
#61442
On December 22 2019 01:14 Sent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2019 00:44 Ej_ wrote:
All goes back to TL not having an ignore button


I'm pretty sure a lot of people would still prefer to report instead of ignoring.

Their loss.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10127 Posts
December 21 2019 17:44 GMT
#61443
On December 22 2019 01:14 Sent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2019 00:44 Ej_ wrote:
All goes back to TL not having an ignore button


I'm pretty sure a lot of people would still prefer to report instead of ignoring.

I'm pretty sure TL would still prefer that users report instead of ignoring.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25047 Posts
December 21 2019 19:51 GMT
#61444
Ignoring would make certain threads extremely confusing and borderline unreadable, which I imagine is why it’s not implemented.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-22 08:03:29
December 22 2019 07:57 GMT
#61445
its why its not even on the table let alone implemented.

then again its not like its not requested, some guy recently made a request that TL+ user gets to hide other people's posts and also prioritize people with low post counts over high.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25047 Posts
December 22 2019 11:50 GMT
#61446
On December 22 2019 16:57 BLinD-RawR wrote:
its why its not even on the table let alone implemented.

then again its not like its not requested, some guy recently made a request that TL+ user gets to hide other people's posts and also prioritize people with low post counts over high.

That thread was beautiful.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 24 2019 08:14 GMT
#61447
So ignore won't be implemented under the pretense of moderation knowing better what kind of content I should read? Fair enough.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
December 24 2019 10:38 GMT
#61448
I don't know if ignore is a good feature, the problem is that it screws up the cohesion of the thread.

But if there were to be ignore in some form perhaps it could just be that those ignored posts are dimmed in some way, e.g. making the text color a light gray? That way the post is still there but it's easy to ignore for the reader.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10127 Posts
December 24 2019 13:45 GMT
#61449
On December 24 2019 17:14 Ej_ wrote:
So ignore won't be implemented under the pretense of moderation knowing better what kind of content I should read? Fair enough.

Lmao not sure where you got that from but the reason that BR agreed to above is that it would make content unreadable in general.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7103 Posts
December 24 2019 14:57 GMT
#61450
Imo the problem with this ban is that there are a lot of rude and even malicious posters who argue in bad faith and bring in needless conflicts who get to post just fine, while fluidrone, albeit a very weird forum member but who didn't really go for fights with other people (as far as i remember) gets banned like this. I understand the mods but it feels very inconsistent. A lot of the news/LR threads are just flamewars more or less because of a couple of certain posters.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10127 Posts
December 24 2019 15:19 GMT
#61451
On December 24 2019 23:57 Luolis wrote:
Imo the problem with this ban is that there are a lot of rude and even malicious posters who argue in bad faith and bring in needless conflicts who get to post just fine, while fluidrone, albeit a very weird forum member but who didn't really go for fights with other people (as far as i remember) gets banned like this. I understand the mods but it feels very inconsistent. A lot of the news/LR threads are just flamewars more or less because of a couple of certain posters.

Are you reporting those posters?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
December 24 2019 16:22 GMT
#61452
On December 24 2019 23:57 Luolis wrote:
Imo the problem with this ban is that there are a lot of rude and even malicious posters who argue in bad faith and bring in needless conflicts who get to post just fine, while fluidrone, albeit a very weird forum member but who didn't really go for fights with other people (as far as i remember) gets banned like this. I understand the mods but it feels very inconsistent. A lot of the news/LR threads are just flamewars more or less because of a couple of certain posters.


Couldn't agree more.

I have reported that stuff quite a few times but it is not acted upon.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7103 Posts
December 24 2019 16:41 GMT
#61453
On December 25 2019 00:19 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2019 23:57 Luolis wrote:
Imo the problem with this ban is that there are a lot of rude and even malicious posters who argue in bad faith and bring in needless conflicts who get to post just fine, while fluidrone, albeit a very weird forum member but who didn't really go for fights with other people (as far as i remember) gets banned like this. I understand the mods but it feels very inconsistent. A lot of the news/LR threads are just flamewars more or less because of a couple of certain posters.

Are you reporting those posters?

Yes if its not already reported.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10127 Posts
December 24 2019 17:04 GMT
#61454
On December 25 2019 01:41 Luolis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2019 00:19 Jealous wrote:
On December 24 2019 23:57 Luolis wrote:
Imo the problem with this ban is that there are a lot of rude and even malicious posters who argue in bad faith and bring in needless conflicts who get to post just fine, while fluidrone, albeit a very weird forum member but who didn't really go for fights with other people (as far as i remember) gets banned like this. I understand the mods but it feels very inconsistent. A lot of the news/LR threads are just flamewars more or less because of a couple of certain posters.

Are you reporting those posters?

Yes if its not already reported.

Then they will eventually get warned/banned too. Why assume that there is nothing going on behind the scenes? Just because you don't have access to their mod logs?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
December 24 2019 20:14 GMT
#61455
On December 24 2019 17:14 Ej_ wrote:
So ignore won't be implemented under the pretense of moderation knowing better what kind of content I should read? Fair enough.

that's literally what moderation is
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 24 2019 22:48 GMT
#61456
On December 24 2019 22:45 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2019 17:14 Ej_ wrote:
So ignore won't be implemented under the pretense of moderation knowing better what kind of content I should read? Fair enough.

Lmao not sure where you got that from but the reason that BR agreed to above is that it would make content unreadable in general.

Apparently nreadable for individuals who have decided to ignore certain users, willingfuly compromising their experience. So, there's an assumption here that an user ignoing someone would work against them. As in, the moderation assumes it knows better what I'm supposed to read than I do.

On December 25 2019 05:14 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2019 17:14 Ej_ wrote:
So ignore won't be implemented under the pretense of moderation knowing better what kind of content I should read? Fair enough.

that's literally what moderation is

I always thought the purpose of moderation was keeping the forums in tact, by removing posters that unarguably cause more harm than good, working in the best interests of all users. Not telling the users who they have to talk to.



Numerous boards feature an ability to ignore picked users, I don't know why TL.net would figure this doesn't suit the website,.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19031 Posts
December 24 2019 23:54 GMT
#61457
I'm speaking for me, not on behalf of the mod team here: If you can't make yourself not read a post by someone you don't want to read a post from, then clearly there must be some merit to NOT outright ignoring everything they write. Also, discussion is stupid when people ignore others. We like to promote civil discussion, not dissuade it. If someone is breaking the rules then we deal with that. But we don't have a rule about people needing to agree with each other.
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Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
December 24 2019 23:59 GMT
#61458
fldrn should not have been banned in my opinion even though I often did not understand his posts.

I do not think he meant any harm.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 25 2019 00:56 GMT
#61459
On December 25 2019 08:54 tofucake wrote:
I'm speaking for me, not on behalf of the mod team here: If you can't make yourself not read a post by someone you don't want to read a post from, then clearly there must be some merit to NOT outright ignoring everything they write. Also, discussion is stupid when people ignore others. We like to promote civil discussion, not dissuade it. If someone is breaking the rules then we deal with that. But we don't have a rule about people needing to agree with each other.

Well, sometimes I really don't want to scroll through 3 pages of certain people complaining about their Starcraft race being weak or talking about Serral in a GSL thread. Not much to do with self-restrain, it's just bothersome.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10127 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-25 01:24:28
December 25 2019 01:24 GMT
#61460
On December 25 2019 07:48 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2019 22:45 Jealous wrote:
On December 24 2019 17:14 Ej_ wrote:
So ignore won't be implemented under the pretense of moderation knowing better what kind of content I should read? Fair enough.

Lmao not sure where you got that from but the reason that BR agreed to above is that it would make content unreadable in general.

Apparently nreadable for individuals who have decided to ignore certain users, willingfuly compromising their experience. So, there's an assumption here that an user ignoing someone would work against them. As in, the moderation assumes it knows better what I'm supposed to read than I do.

Ehm, no, unreadable for everyone. There would be repeat posts, people talking/posting past one another, probably passive-aggressive bullshit once a poster realizes they were ignored, and on top of all of that - if everyone simply ignores a shit user instead of reporting them, then that makes the job of moderators harder and the amount of shit posts that slip through the cracks greater.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
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