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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
November 04 2015 09:31 GMT
#52301
On November 04 2015 11:49 Cascade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2015 11:40 farvacola wrote:
It's ok, people know plenty about you too

I've always thought that oppiska's posting habits are cloesly related to his shoe-size of 43, and yogurt+cereal breakfasts.


That would be a fair shot if I weren't eastern-european, the idea of "cereals" has mostly missed us.

However there something interesting you can observe - perhaps through this thread - that apart from outright morons, trolls and adbots, a lot of people who get permed are people who are quite deep in the community, have a lot of interactions and connections with other TL users. Of course, if you don't post at all, you won't get banned, so some correlation is expected, but to me it sometimes look like the perm is a natural outcome of ab otherwise fruitful forum-life for a certain kind of TL users. And honestly I don't think that this observation should provoke some thought about the "victims", but maybe rather about the system.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
November 04 2015 10:28 GMT
#52302
I always thought perm bans were a logical consequence of being an active poster in the General threads. Everything's so garbage in there, I cannot believe it everytime I make the huge mistake of stepping in that hostile territory.
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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
November 04 2015 19:38 GMT
#52303
apparently the league preseason changes are having some disagreememnt

On November 05 2015 00:02 Volband wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2015 23:57 Ketara wrote:
This thread needs some mods in it, for serious.

Agree. It's bad enough that - seemingly - more people oppose the changes than agree with it, but the fact that they even voice it is just one step too much. With a few warnings, everyone should be convinced that season 6 ranked will be the best ranked experience out of any game throughout the history of gaming.

Imagine how this thread would look like if Lyte moderated it, haha.

- Looking good!
- Can't wait!
- Any1 looking for groups? We are a group of 3, welcoming anyone!
- SWEET!!!
- Riot outdid themselves, for real.
- I dunno guys... [Warned]
- Just what I wanted!

(+ a million [---NUKED---] of course)

User was temp banned for this post.

"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
November 04 2015 20:48 GMT
#52304
On November 04 2015 19:28 OtherWorld wrote:
I always thought perm bans were a logical consequence of being an active poster in the General threads. Everything's so garbage in there, I cannot believe it everytime I make the huge mistake of stepping in that hostile territory.


I don't understand this mentality. What do you think forums are?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
November 05 2015 00:08 GMT
#52305
On November 05 2015 05:48 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2015 19:28 OtherWorld wrote:
I always thought perm bans were a logical consequence of being an active poster in the General threads. Everything's so garbage in there, I cannot believe it everytime I make the huge mistake of stepping in that hostile territory.


I don't understand this mentality. What do you think forums are?

A place to discuss, not a place to debate, and especially not a place to debate heated subjects like politics, religions, the evolution of society, or meat consumption.
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
November 05 2015 00:11 GMT
#52306
On November 04 2015 16:28 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
apparently people are very invested into fallout.

Show nested quote +
On November 04 2015 13:58 Lauchboy wrote:
That says everything about the Dialogue-System!

[image loading]

User was banned for this post.



He concisely pointed out what his problem with FO4 is :/
rip passion
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45522 Posts
November 05 2015 01:11 GMT
#52307
On November 05 2015 09:08 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 05:48 IgnE wrote:
On November 04 2015 19:28 OtherWorld wrote:
I always thought perm bans were a logical consequence of being an active poster in the General threads. Everything's so garbage in there, I cannot believe it everytime I make the huge mistake of stepping in that hostile territory.


I don't understand this mentality. What do you think forums are?

A place to discuss, not a place to debate, and especially not a place to debate heated subjects like politics, religions, the evolution of society, or meat consumption.


I think you're mistaking the General threads for the game-specific threads?

Also, explicitly debating religion is pretty much frowned upon, because of how easily that escalates into full-blown ostracism.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43898 Posts
November 05 2015 01:31 GMT
#52308
I'm not sure that I agree that all religion will eventually devolve into ostrich worship. I mean, sure, they're big, for birds, but ostracism? That's a bit far.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45522 Posts
November 05 2015 01:37 GMT
#52309
On November 05 2015 10:31 KwarK wrote:
I'm not sure that I agree that all religion will eventually devolve into ostrich worship. I mean, sure, they're big, for birds, but ostracism? That's a bit far.


Good point. I've heard that religious fundamentalism is "for the birds", but I've never learned which ones...
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
November 05 2015 01:49 GMT
#52310
On November 04 2015 19:28 OtherWorld wrote:
I always thought perm bans were a logical consequence of being an active poster in the General threads. Everything's so garbage in there, I cannot believe it everytime I make the huge mistake of stepping in that hostile territory.


That doesn't make any sense. What would you even keep a forum when you despise it's contents so much that you ban everyone who produces too much of it? If this were true then the General forum is purpotedly set up so that people can go post there for some limited amount of time. Do you really need me to try to explain why making an effort to make sure that the result is neither "no posting" or "posting forever", but something temporarily limited is absurd beyond words?

I really think that most of the problem is some overdone sensitivity and purported offense-taking. People should just stop being such crybabies when someone writes something they don't like on the internet. My suggestion for improving the General forum would be to ban only clear assholes, derails meant to sabotage the discussion and then everyone who acts offended by anything. Then we could start having some good discussion.

"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
November 05 2015 01:53 GMT
#52311
On November 05 2015 09:08 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 05:48 IgnE wrote:
On November 04 2015 19:28 OtherWorld wrote:
I always thought perm bans were a logical consequence of being an active poster in the General threads. Everything's so garbage in there, I cannot believe it everytime I make the huge mistake of stepping in that hostile territory.


I don't understand this mentality. What do you think forums are?

A place to discuss, not a place to debate, and especially not a place to debate heated subjects like politics, religions, the evolution of society, or meat consumption.



What's the difference between a "debate" and a "discussion"?

You also sound like a really boring person.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
November 05 2015 01:55 GMT
#52312
On November 05 2015 10:53 IgnE wrote:
You also sound like a really boring person.


I would demand a ban if someone said that to me
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45522 Posts
November 05 2015 01:55 GMT
#52313
On November 05 2015 10:53 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 09:08 OtherWorld wrote:
On November 05 2015 05:48 IgnE wrote:
On November 04 2015 19:28 OtherWorld wrote:
I always thought perm bans were a logical consequence of being an active poster in the General threads. Everything's so garbage in there, I cannot believe it everytime I make the huge mistake of stepping in that hostile territory.


I don't understand this mentality. What do you think forums are?

A place to discuss, not a place to debate, and especially not a place to debate heated subjects like politics, religions, the evolution of society, or meat consumption.



What's the difference between a "debate" and a "discussion"?

You also sound like a really boring person.


A discussion is what PC people call a debate.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45522 Posts
November 05 2015 01:57 GMT
#52314
On November 05 2015 10:55 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 10:53 IgnE wrote:
You also sound like a really boring person.


I would demand a ban if someone said that to me


You'd demand that the accuser be banned? Or you'd ask to get banned so you could go learn how to be interesting?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 05 2015 03:08 GMT
#52315
International politics is almost always a thousand flame wars ready to happen. Everyone has a thousand different interpretations that they believe in strongly, and no one is clearly correct (but everyone likes to think they are).
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
November 05 2015 03:34 GMT
#52316
On November 05 2015 10:53 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 09:08 OtherWorld wrote:
On November 05 2015 05:48 IgnE wrote:
On November 04 2015 19:28 OtherWorld wrote:
I always thought perm bans were a logical consequence of being an active poster in the General threads. Everything's so garbage in there, I cannot believe it everytime I make the huge mistake of stepping in that hostile territory.


I don't understand this mentality. What do you think forums are?

A place to discuss, not a place to debate, and especially not a place to debate heated subjects like politics, religions, the evolution of society, or meat consumption.



What's the difference between a "debate" and a "discussion"?

You also sound like a really boring person.

I think a discussion becomes a debate when the people involved stop having the intent of sharing their opinion on a matter or learning what others think on a matter, and start having the sole intent of convincing others that their opinion is the one and only correct opinion to hold.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
November 05 2015 03:49 GMT
#52317
i like the general forum for the variety of flora and fauna. it's like a gallery or zoo of exotic opinions and people.

We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-05 05:20:21
November 05 2015 05:08 GMT
#52318
On November 05 2015 10:49 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2015 19:28 OtherWorld wrote:
I always thought perm bans were a logical consequence of being an active poster in the General threads. Everything's so garbage in there, I cannot believe it everytime I make the huge mistake of stepping in that hostile territory.


That doesn't make any sense. What would you even keep a forum when you despise it's contents so much that you ban everyone who produces too much of it? If this were true then the General forum is purpotedly set up so that people can go post there for some limited amount of time. Do you really need me to try to explain why making an effort to make sure that the result is neither "no posting" or "posting forever", but something temporarily limited is absurd beyond words?

I really think that most of the problem is some overdone sensitivity and purported offense-taking. People should just stop being such crybabies when someone writes something they don't like on the internet. My suggestion for improving the General forum would be to ban only clear assholes, derails meant to sabotage the discussion and then everyone who acts offended by anything. Then we could start having some good discussion.



I'm not sure why you spend so much of your time defending shitty posters, but they don't make discussions more readable or valuable by being there. Also your argument that posting a lot in general forums always results in a ban is fallacious. The fact that a few of the higher profile general forum users get banned from time to time is not due to the fact that they are active general forum posters, but rather because they are higher profile due to how disputatious and caustic they are. Those posters are part of the reason in the first place why so many people think General threads are completely garbage, and reasonably avoid them.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23873 Posts
November 05 2015 05:50 GMT
#52319
On November 05 2015 09:11 Deathstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2015 16:28 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
apparently people are very invested into fallout.

On November 04 2015 13:58 Lauchboy wrote:
That says everything about the Dialogue-System!

[image loading]

User was banned for this post.



He concisely pointed out what his problem with FO4 is :/



I thought it was just biting social commentary in general and pretty funny/accurate about us as a society at large. Didn't realize there was some serious beef going on about it around FO4
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
November 05 2015 08:34 GMT
#52320
I'm so glad that there is no real refugee crisis discussion going on. You guys should check german facebook sites, so much racism popping up, it's a shame.
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