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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
February 15 2013 07:38 GMT
#34821
hey I actually thought he was KBB.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
February 15 2013 07:41 GMT
#34822
What time is it in germany man?
shikata ga nai
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
February 15 2013 07:41 GMT
#34823
almost 9 in the morning -.-
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 07:45:32
February 15 2013 07:44 GMT
#34824
I go to sleep for one night, just one night and you guys manage to kill IRC -.-
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 15 2013 07:45 GMT
#34825
Really guys...god dammit.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37022 Posts
February 15 2013 08:00 GMT
#34826
On February 15 2013 16:35 Aerisky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 16:32 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Everyone just join tl-abl2, jd trojan horsed someone into giving him op

I think we all know who it is *cough* BR

e: for those that missed what happened
+ Show Spoiler +
JD spammed the thread as everyone can see.

Then he came onto irc and started spamming too, was kicked and ip banned by motbob.

motbob had to go sleep so he asked Falling on--however Falling is a self-described irc noob so motbob made BR op.

BR then op'd Falling and after Kadaver_BB joined, he op'd Kadaver_BB.

Except it wasn't Kadaver_BB, it was jd. So jd kicked all the ops and is now the op of TL-ABL

Shock has set up TL-ABL2 for the time being.

......

BR = fail wow...
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
February 15 2013 08:01 GMT
#34827
On February 15 2013 17:00 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 16:35 Aerisky wrote:
On February 15 2013 16:32 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Everyone just join tl-abl2, jd trojan horsed someone into giving him op

I think we all know who it is *cough* BR

e: for those that missed what happened
+ Show Spoiler +
JD spammed the thread as everyone can see.

Then he came onto irc and started spamming too, was kicked and ip banned by motbob.

motbob had to go sleep so he asked Falling on--however Falling is a self-described irc noob so motbob made BR op.

BR then op'd Falling and after Kadaver_BB joined, he op'd Kadaver_BB.

Except it wasn't Kadaver_BB, it was jd. So jd kicked all the ops and is now the op of TL-ABL

Shock has set up TL-ABL2 for the time being.

......

BR = fail wow...


honestly guys....:/
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 08:04:03
February 15 2013 08:03 GMT
#34828
On February 15 2013 17:01 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 17:00 Seeker wrote:
On February 15 2013 16:35 Aerisky wrote:
On February 15 2013 16:32 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Everyone just join tl-abl2, jd trojan horsed someone into giving him op

I think we all know who it is *cough* BR

e: for those that missed what happened
+ Show Spoiler +
JD spammed the thread as everyone can see.

Then he came onto irc and started spamming too, was kicked and ip banned by motbob.

motbob had to go sleep so he asked Falling on--however Falling is a self-described irc noob so motbob made BR op.

BR then op'd Falling and after Kadaver_BB joined, he op'd Kadaver_BB.

Except it wasn't Kadaver_BB, it was jd. So jd kicked all the ops and is now the op of TL-ABL

Shock has set up TL-ABL2 for the time being.

......

BR = fail wow...


honestly guys....:/


The question is why would you op KBB when motbob only asked you to voice cow....
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
February 15 2013 08:06 GMT
#34829
On February 15 2013 17:03 JBright wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 17:01 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On February 15 2013 17:00 Seeker wrote:
On February 15 2013 16:35 Aerisky wrote:
On February 15 2013 16:32 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Everyone just join tl-abl2, jd trojan horsed someone into giving him op

I think we all know who it is *cough* BR

e: for those that missed what happened
+ Show Spoiler +
JD spammed the thread as everyone can see.

Then he came onto irc and started spamming too, was kicked and ip banned by motbob.

motbob had to go sleep so he asked Falling on--however Falling is a self-described irc noob so motbob made BR op.

BR then op'd Falling and after Kadaver_BB joined, he op'd Kadaver_BB.

Except it wasn't Kadaver_BB, it was jd. So jd kicked all the ops and is now the op of TL-ABL

Shock has set up TL-ABL2 for the time being.

......

BR = fail wow...


honestly guys....:/


The question is why would you op KBB when motbob only asked you to voice cow....


because I didn't think it would matter.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
February 15 2013 08:08 GMT
#34830
On February 15 2013 17:03 JBright wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 17:01 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On February 15 2013 17:00 Seeker wrote:
On February 15 2013 16:35 Aerisky wrote:
On February 15 2013 16:32 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Everyone just join tl-abl2, jd trojan horsed someone into giving him op

I think we all know who it is *cough* BR

e: for those that missed what happened
+ Show Spoiler +
JD spammed the thread as everyone can see.

Then he came onto irc and started spamming too, was kicked and ip banned by motbob.

motbob had to go sleep so he asked Falling on--however Falling is a self-described irc noob so motbob made BR op.

BR then op'd Falling and after Kadaver_BB joined, he op'd Kadaver_BB.

Except it wasn't Kadaver_BB, it was jd. So jd kicked all the ops and is now the op of TL-ABL

Shock has set up TL-ABL2 for the time being.

......

BR = fail wow...


honestly guys....:/


The question is why would you op KBB when motbob only asked you to voice cow....

Because he didn't realize how much of a bitch jd is.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
February 15 2013 08:08 GMT
#34831
On February 15 2013 17:06 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 17:03 JBright wrote:
On February 15 2013 17:01 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On February 15 2013 17:00 Seeker wrote:
On February 15 2013 16:35 Aerisky wrote:
On February 15 2013 16:32 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Everyone just join tl-abl2, jd trojan horsed someone into giving him op

I think we all know who it is *cough* BR

e: for those that missed what happened
+ Show Spoiler +
JD spammed the thread as everyone can see.

Then he came onto irc and started spamming too, was kicked and ip banned by motbob.

motbob had to go sleep so he asked Falling on--however Falling is a self-described irc noob so motbob made BR op.

BR then op'd Falling and after Kadaver_BB joined, he op'd Kadaver_BB.

Except it wasn't Kadaver_BB, it was jd. So jd kicked all the ops and is now the op of TL-ABL

Shock has set up TL-ABL2 for the time being.

......

BR = fail wow...


honestly guys....:/


The question is why would you op KBB when motbob only asked you to voice cow....


because I didn't think it would matter.

Its not really BR's fault that jd is a retard, he was being nice and giving falling and who is thought was KBB op. Could have happened to anyone.
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 15 2013 08:10 GMT
#34832
I, for one, still think you are a cool dude. Don't worry BR, we're here for you.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 08:15:08
February 15 2013 08:14 GMT
#34833
still, I dun goofed up.

then again this is the most action the thread has got all week. Always look on the bright side.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10831 Posts
February 15 2013 08:27 GMT
#34834
So this is how a married man spends his valentine's day.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11349 Posts
February 15 2013 08:28 GMT
#34835
The more you know.
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
February 15 2013 08:28 GMT
#34836
On February 15 2013 17:27 BroOd wrote:
So this is how a married man spends his valentine's day.


I guess vengeance is sweeter than any chocolate...or sex.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
February 15 2013 08:33 GMT
#34837
On February 15 2013 17:27 BroOd wrote:
So this is how a married man spends his valentine's day.


Apparently only the smartest and coolest of married men spend their Valentine's day this way. So jealous...
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
February 15 2013 08:41 GMT
#34838
On February 15 2013 17:14 BLinD-RawR wrote:
still, I dun goofed up.

then again this is the most action the thread has got all week. Always look on the bright side.


i thought it was an amusing twist! you're not the penis of a teenage boy, don't be so hard on yourself.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 09:48:18
February 15 2013 09:34 GMT
#34839
On February 13 2013 05:16 Melliflue wrote:

Defacer made a fairly reasonable point about how unintuitive the labels in SC2 can be, and I can understand being annoyed when somebody starts their reply with "My god, what the crap are you talking about." My schadenfreude at Defacer's ban is quite low


Thanks for not taking too much joy in my ban, I appreciate it.

I wrote to GMarshal about it afterwards, and he was quite a good guy about it.

Here's what I wrote.

Yeah, I deserve the ban. To be honest I was just getting frustrated with that one guy who kept missing the point of my argument entirely. And probably on purpose. Because he loves hellbats.

Please humor me for a sec, and let me explain to somebody what I was trying to explain.

Making a game more complicated by giving units or 'combatants' essentially invisible abilities or traits to fix a game that is imbalanced is not good design. It's patchwork.

It's not crazy to think that the function and ability of things should be visually obvious and apparent. It's the basis of all good graphic, interface and game design.

Sure, LoL is popular. But not as popular or profitable as basketball, football, soccer. It's not anywhere close to mainstream. It takes maybe 30 minutes of watching an NBA game for an average person to understand and respect professional basketball. It might take 30 hours of playing SC2 to actually understand how complex SC2 is, and how good its professional players actually are.

It's a shame, because I always thought SC2 had potential as a great spectator sport -- at least as popular as Poker -- but the harder it becomes to explain, and the more seemingly random the design decisions become, the harder it is to convince people outside of the RTS or MoBA community to watch or even respect the beauty of the game.

People would rather have hellbats take up four cargo spaces and call it a day, then step back and say -- "Wait a minute. A mech unit that transforms to a bio unit that can be healed in one mode and repaired in another? And is similar in concept to a viking, which also has an infantry mode but none of the benefits of a bio unit?"

At that point, a game designer should seriously step back and ask themselves what they are trying to achieve by giving the same unit two very different sets of attributes. They should consider just coming up with a totally separate unit or starting from scratch.

The more complicated and quirky the units get, the more insular and inaccessible the game becomes. And the whole point of HOTS was to expand the user and fan base, and not just cater to specific interests of hardcore players and purists.


So it's not an issue of 'labeling'. Designing a game is more than just drawing robot cars, naming them and noodling with their stats. Consistency in how units look and operate matters.

What gave SC2 the potential to become a spectator sport was that, unlike Dota or LoL or other RTS, the function and capabilities of the units -- for the most part -- where reflected in their appearance. You don't need to know anything about SC2 to assume that an Ultralisk is going to a lot more damage to a puny marine than an armored tank. Most of the units are straightforward, and intuitive.

I don't often agree with the likes of Destiny, but he had a point about the importance of HOTS drawing more casual viewers and players for SC2 to have any real longevity. I don't think diehard SC2 fans realize that a lot of other hardcore gamers — say, a guy that has played 1000-plus hours of Counterstrike — look at an RTS like SC2 and are intimidated or turn-offed by it's inherent nerdiness. SC2 is a game so convoluted that not even gamers that already LOVE head-to-head competition will watch or play it.

And what bothers me about some TL members is you get the sense they want it that way. They want HOTS only to be harder, and more exclusive, and more elitist. You get it from snarky guys on the forums, that cop attitudes that reek of entitlement and superiority because ... they know a lot about hellbats?

So I hope I didn't insult too many people with my last post, but that's how I feel sometimes. That SC2 -- and Team Liquid -- is turning into an experience that primarily caters only to die-hard players. I became a TL member because I wanted to support SC2 and see it become the next big thing ... not to watch it become the videogame equivalent of Babylon 5 (or some other marginal subculture).

+ Show Spoiler +
Sorry for the long-winded post. Also, I was not trolling that thread. I just thought Catz had an interesting take on Hellbats, and offered a perspective I hadn't heard before. I had no idea so many people in that thread had so little respect for Catz. Believe it or not, Catz is actually a very good player that has invested hundreds and hundreds of hours into studying HOTS. If anything, understanding and maximizing a units capabilities is one of his strengths. Sheesh.
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 10:04:00
February 15 2013 10:03 GMT
#34840
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 18:34 Defacer wrote:
On February 13 2013 05:16 Melliflue wrote:

Defacer made a fairly reasonable point about how unintuitive the labels in SC2 can be, and I can understand being annoyed when somebody starts their reply with "My god, what the crap are you talking about." My schadenfreude at Defacer's ban is quite low


Thanks for not taking too much joy in my ban, I appreciate it.

I wrote to GMarshal about it afterwards, and he was quite a good guy about it.

Here's what I wrote.

Yeah, I deserve the ban. To be honest I was just getting frustrated with that one guy who kept missing the point of my argument entirely. And probably on purpose. Because he loves hellbats.

Please humor me for a sec, and let me explain to somebody what I was trying to explain.

Making a game more complicated by giving units or 'combatants' essentially invisible abilities or traits to fix a game that is imbalanced is not good design. It's patchwork.

It's not crazy to think that the function and ability of things should be visually obvious and apparent. It's the basis of all good graphic, interface and game design.

Sure, LoL is popular. But not as popular or profitable as basketball, football, soccer. It's not anywhere close to mainstream. It takes maybe 30 minutes of watching an NBA game for an average person to understand and respect professional basketball. It might take 30 hours of playing SC2 to actually understand how complex SC2 is, and how good its professional players actually are.

It's a shame, because I always thought SC2 had potential as a great spectator sport -- at least as popular as Poker -- but the harder it becomes to explain, and the more seemingly random the design decisions become, the harder it is to convince people outside of the RTS or MoBA community to watch or even respect the beauty of the game.

People would rather have hellbats take up four cargo spaces and call it a day, then step back and say -- "Wait a minute. A mech unit that transforms to a bio unit that can be healed in one mode and repaired in another? And is similar in concept to a viking, which also has an infantry mode but none of the benefits of a bio unit?"

At that point, a game designer should seriously step back and ask themselves what they are trying to achieve by giving the same unit two very different sets of attributes. They should consider just coming up with a totally separate unit or starting from scratch.

The more complicated and quirky the units get, the more insular and inaccessible the game becomes. And the whole point of HOTS was to expand the user and fan base, and not just cater to specific interests of hardcore players and purists.


So it's not an issue of 'labeling'. Designing a game is more than just drawing robot cars, naming them and noodling with their stats. Consistency in how units look and operate matters.

What gave SC2 the potential to become a spectator sport was that, unlike Dota or LoL or other RTS, the function and capabilities of the units -- for the most part -- where reflected in their appearance. You don't need to know anything about SC2 to assume that an Ultralisk is going to a lot more damage to a puny marine than an armored tank. Most of the units are straightforward, and intuitive.

I don't often agree with the likes of Destiny, but he had a point about the importance of HOTS drawing more casual viewers and players for SC2 to have any real longevity. I don't think diehard SC2 fans realize that a lot of other hardcore gamers — say, a guy that has played 1000-plus hours of Counterstrike — look at an RTS like SC2 and are intimidated or turn-offed by it's inherent nerdiness. SC2 is a game so convoluted that not even gamers that already LOVE head-to-head competition will watch or play it.

And what bothers me about some TL members is you get the sense they want it that way. They want HOTS only to be harder, and more exclusive, and more elitist. You get it from snarky guys on the forums, that cop attitudes that reek of entitlement and superiority because ... they know a lot about hellbats?

So I hope I didn't insult too many people with my last post, but that's how I feel sometimes. That SC2 -- and Team Liquid -- is turning into an experience that primarily caters only to die-hard players. I became a TL member because I wanted to support SC2 and see it become the next big thing ... not to watch it become the videogame equivalent of Babylon 5 (or some other marginal subculture).

+ Show Spoiler +
Sorry for the long-winded post. Also, I was not trolling that thread. I just thought Catz had an interesting take on Hellbats, and offered a perspective I hadn't heard before. I had no idea so many people in that thread had so little respect for Catz. Believe it or not, Catz is actually a very good player that has invested hundreds and hundreds of hours into studying HOTS. If anything, understanding and maximizing a units capabilities is one of his strengths. Sheesh.

welcome back defacer
+ Show Spoiler +
less welcome, discussions of this is the abl. I'd love to respond but I don't think this is the place
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