The Automated Ban List - Page 1707

On January 30 2013 05:12 Melliflue wrote:

How many ABLers have been banned for back-seat moderating?

On January 30 2013 03:59 dAPhREAk wrote:

sound familiar to anyone?

On January 30 2013 05:12 dAPhREAk wrote:

not as many as the amount of times cokefreak has individually been banned for back-seat moderating. just a guess though. =D

On January 30 2013 05:34 derpface wrote:



Isnt Cokefreak considered a ABLer?

On January 30 2013 06:24 solidbebe wrote:

He is, and he wasn't saying he isn't (by using individually).

On January 30 2013 06:55 ThomasjServo wrote:
I think this TL, Internet communities, Communism, thread is going to be a mine field of bans.

On January 30 2013 02:21 ThomasjServo wrote:
My personal philosophy coming into any online community to which I am new, is basically that I am at the equivalent of being sat at the children's table during a holiday meal. You kind of are stuck there while people talk over your head until you've made enough of a contribution to the conversation to be lent some credibility in the discussion. I think it is a fair comparison to make especially in a community like TL where there is that 4% in so many threads that have known each other for so long.

BerkmanZ's account is older than mine and somehow he hasn't figured out basic courtesies when he was trying to foster discussion that has been had and closed several times over. I think the chiding, specifically in the ultralisk thread, was fairly standard thoroughfare, but when he made the "Dear TL...why?" (pity party) thread about his one warning and closed thread, that he opened himself up.

Learning through experience, we'll have to see what his next post is like assuming he even makes one. Personally I am surprised GMarshall didn't tag him with at least a temp.

On January 25 2013 06:00 GMarshal wrote:
Something a lot of people on tl seem to miss (I've noticed it both here and in the ABL, notably), is the virtue of compassion. Whenever someone gives a two day ban, or just a warning, someone seems to feel like it's "not enough", and they miss the point of the action entirely. Many times much more is achieved by compassion than by crushing the offender under your heel. With mercy, you create good feelings and turn bad behaviors into constructive ones, while by not staying your hand, you instead create further resentment. That is not to say that there aren't times when the fullest punishment is called for, but I feel that it is wisest to err on the side of mercy, there is always time to ban someone, but the hate created by banning rarely heals.

On January 30 2013 21:30 GMarshal wrote:


A post I made in the TL Mafia banlist applies here. I'm just going to quote myself

On January 25 2013 06:00 GMarshal wrote:
Something a lot of people on tl seem to miss (I've noticed it both here and in the ABL, notably), is the virtue of compassion. Whenever someone gives a two day ban, or just a warning, someone seems to feel like it's "not enough", and they miss the point of the action entirely. Many times much more is achieved by compassion than by crushing the offender under your heel. With mercy, you create good feelings and turn bad behaviors into constructive ones, while by not staying your hand, you instead create further resentment. That is not to say that there aren't times when the fullest punishment is called for, but I feel that it is wisest to err on the side of mercy, there is always time to ban someone, but the hate created by banning rarely heals.

On January 31 2013 00:09 scFoX wrote:


I can certainly relate to the sentiment. A permaban is in some form an admission of defeat by both the moderating team and the poster in perpetuating this community. It's very easy to let oneself be overcome by cynicism and shadenfreude, but most people react very differently when put on the defensive and publicly mocked. Granted, some never learn and end up deserving their treatment, but many others make honest mistakes and just need to be told when they are crossing the line. Just look at Seeker's reaction every time someone brings up his ban (may he never live it down :p).

Everyone was a newbie once.