EPTSo What Have We Learned? (From Glider) - Page 2
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juked
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Deleted User 183001
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It's great SC fans advertised the poll to other SC to get votes for Glider who was the only name I recognized, and it's great Glider won, but just because he's the only one who comes from a community with numbers worth speaking of doesn't mean we made some extravagant accomplishment like 'world peace' or something. 94% of the votes were either to Glider, or a woman who does English learning videos. She has no big ass online nerd community like we do, and yet she still came close to winning. I mean, throw in FPSRussia/Kyle, and Glider wouldn't have a single chance if we do all the rallying we can and the CoD/BF communities do little to nothing to advertise such a poll. The fact of the matter is we won moreso because Glider is the only person who comes from some kind of community, and a community that is infinitely larger than what all the other people in the poll come from (if anything), than because we are "powerful". For all the "power" we have, Day9 lost the Shorty Awards to a guy I've never even heard of despite heavy advertisement by TL, Battle.net, Reddit SC, and other SC online sites. T_T I think in the broader sense of things, what we have to thank most is the Korean Ministry of Culture (specifically Kespa), the Korean SC players, and the Korean broadcasters MBC and OGN. If it weren't for them making Starcraft top 3 most popular professional sport in Korea and as a result the world's biggest esport, BW would have died out pretty quickly as just 'another RTS game'. If that occurred, SC2 wouldn't be anything like it is today tbh. And with a site like reddit, which is little more than a more socially-accepted 4chan, which loves drama, immature attacks, and mob-raising, garnering people to vote is hardly a challenge tbh. | ||
DivinO
United States4796 Posts
On December 14 2011 07:41 JudicatorHammurabi wrote: So what you mean to say is that people from a certain community supported people from a certain community (in this case, being Starcraft nerds). Like that hasn't happened before lol. Now SC guys voting in a poll for the only person who is part of some really large online community of SC fans? I don't see how that necessitates a thread making it out as if it's some awesome act of sweat and blood we put together :S. It really confuses me that people are speaking in such a tone as if we won a political revolution, and not simply a poll :S. It's great SC fans advertised the poll to other SC to get votes for Glider who was the only name I recognized, and it's great Glider won, but just because he's the only one who comes from a community with numbers worth speaking of doesn't mean we made some extravagant accomplishment like 'world peace' or something. 94% of the votes were either to Glider, or a woman who does English learning videos. She has no big ass online nerd community like we do, and yet she still came close to winning. I mean, throw in FPSRussia/Kyle, and Glider wouldn't have a single chance if we do all the rallying we can and the CoD/BF communities do little to nothing to advertise such a poll. The fact of the matter is we won moreso because Glider is the only person who comes from some kind of community, and a community that is infinitely larger than what all the other people in the poll come from (if anything), than because we are "powerful". I think in the broader sense of things, what we have to thank most is the Korean Ministry of Culture (specifically Kespa), the Korean SC players, and the Korean broadcasters MBC and OGN. If it weren't for them making Starcraft top 3 most popular professional sport in Korea and as a result the world's biggest esport, BW would have died out pretty quickly as just 'another RTS game'. If that occurred, SC2 wouldn't be anything like it is today tbh. And with a site like reddit, which is little more than a more socially-accepted 4chan, which loves drama, immature attacks, and mob-raising, garnering people to vote is hardly a challenge tbh. I feel like we just haven't seen our own numbers yet. Not trying to say anything else. | ||
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Primadog
United States4411 Posts
In conclusion, we'd kill a man if Nazgul wish it. | ||
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DivinO
United States4796 Posts
On December 14 2011 08:06 Primadog wrote: I believe it's Chill that said in a recent interview that "TeamLiquid has a fan base that rivals Scientology in fervor. I can shit on screen for two hours and people would love it." In conclusion, we'd kill a man if Nazgul wish it. Hey I like Chill! I'm going to hold him to that. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
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Primadog
United States4411 Posts
On December 14 2011 08:13 DivinO wrote: Hey I like Chill! I'm going to hold him to that. Shit on screen for two hours? | ||
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Shiladie
Canada1631 Posts
On December 14 2011 03:07 Psyonic_Reaver wrote: 1. Lot's of control. 2. Screaming and Hollering. 3. Passion. The elements of a good cheer/support. + Show Spoiler + And sometimes you have to get louder! I am very glad Glider won. He deserves it out of the 4 videos I watched. Truly talented. Darn. Can't beat the US yet. Come on TL. =) That scene still gives me warm feelings when i remember it... The amount that the community has grown is incredible, and I hope it continues to grow in a good direction. The Starcraft and TL community is one of the best mannered well spoken groups around on the internet, and one of the fears a number of people have had is that with growth we may lose that identity. So far I believe we've succeeded in keeping it together though! | ||
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DivinO
United States4796 Posts
Yup. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On December 14 2011 08:06 Primadog wrote: I believe it's Chill that said in a recent interview that "TeamLiquid has a fan base that rivals Scientology in fervor. I can shit on screen for two hours and people would love it." In conclusion, we'd kill a man if Nazgul wish it. and here comes the 100s of "nazgul wants the ring" "kill frodo" jokes. | ||
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gulati
United States2241 Posts
On December 14 2011 02:47 zatic wrote: You have to realize it takes a person like Glider though to enable the community powered voting machine. The same support would have never been possible if the subject would have been a random dude and not an amazingly talented artist. Similarly the other examples you named still require that people are emotionally invested in the cause to make them vote at the call of community leaders. Couldn't agree more. Glider won that not only because of our "power", but because our power respected him. I guarantee you that we as a community cannot just plug anything and get the same support. We have to truly believe in something and care about it on a metaphysical level for it to aspire to bounds recognized outside of eSports (i.e, if Artosis won an award for best future father, or something. That would win since we love him). | ||
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DivinO
United States4796 Posts
On December 14 2011 09:05 gulati wrote: Couldn't agree more. Glider won that not only because of our "power", but because our power respected him. I guarantee you that we as a community cannot just plug anything and get the same support. We have to truly believe in something and care about it on a metaphysical level for it to aspire to bounds recognized outside of eSports (i.e, if Artosis won an award for best future father, or something. That would win since we love him). Thank you for your comment. I did respond to zatic's comment, so feel free to read that if you wish to have more insight into my opinion on the matter. If not, that's totally fine. Thanks regardless. | ||
emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
Fuck. It's like people around here don't actually care about ESPORTS. + Show Spoiler + 99% jokes :p | ||
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Primadog
United States4411 Posts
On December 14 2011 10:13 emperorchampion wrote: We learned our community is a bunch of lazy asses. If all it requires is a single click, then yeah, that's all fine and dandy. But when it comes to creating a twitter account and voting for Day[9] or getting rek into a poker tourney (which I won't lie was a big pain in the ass), nope couldn't be bothered. Fuck. It's like people around here don't actually care about ESPORTS. + Show Spoiler + 99% jokes :p Actually, what we learned is our community needs leadership. We are capable of getting shit done, the power and potential are there, just that we don't do anything useful until someone rev us up to a frenzy. | ||
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Keyboard Warrior
United States1178 Posts
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Tula
Austria1544 Posts
For Glider this was his one chance to get featured on YouTube which probably means a lot for an artist like him. I'm not sure how many portraits he actually sells in IRL and if he can make a living off it (frankly given what i know about art and the market for it, i'd be very surprised if he can), so if his stuff get's highlighted on the tube thats probably a really big step for him. I have no idea what you mean with rek and the poker tourney btw, guess i missed that effort (or it was in my longish break from Starcraft between 2007 and 2010) | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
On December 14 2011 02:49 dAPhREAk wrote: not enough power to get Anna Prosser the community win for Miss USA. =( thats a different story - you will never get the full force of our communitypowers to support something like that, because you can have different opinions about it. Almost everyone would blindly vote to support Glider, because you cant agrue too much about him being awesome | ||
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SonuvBob
Aiur21552 Posts
On December 14 2011 05:15 Seeker wrote: Liquid`Nazgul (a goddess) o.O | ||
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