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Please, if you are not staff, don't answer questions in this thread, even if you think you know the answer.

Also, please take complains about bans, question about TL as a site, etc to the Website Feedback Forum.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15364 Posts
June 27 2012 09:59 GMT
#3101
On June 27 2012 18:54 venomium wrote:
Somebody here can probably help me go in the right direction, I'd like to post an arcticle from a business that sponsored a SC2 event, with their opinion on e-sports as an untapped marketing sector; http://www.vroomvroomvroom.com.au/sc2/why/ , however, I'm not really sure where I should post it?

If unsure, post it in your Blog.

Make it doesn't come across as advertising though. Keep the content on TL, don't just link somewhere else.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 27 2012 11:55 GMT
#3102
Do the staff find any humor in the irony of people coming to "Ask TL Staff Anything" to complain about how badly off-topic the ABL thread can be?
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19196 Posts
June 27 2012 12:18 GMT
#3103
No. And if someone gives me a hammer I'll gladly ban everyone in the ABL thread
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
June 27 2012 12:27 GMT
#3104
On June 27 2012 21:18 tofucake wrote:
No. And if someone gives me a hammer I'll gladly ban everyone in the ABL thread

By "everyone", do you mean everyone?
This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 12:58:46
June 27 2012 12:53 GMT
#3105
I was asked to post my question here, as some ppl complained it was off-topic in ABL :

What the hell is happenning in the GSL LR thread? Ppl are being warned left and right for "theorycrafting"? Wth? Ppl dare discuss starcraft in an LR thread? oO

Seriously, though, if someone can explain me the logic going on here, I would be thankful because I'm really confused right now

Examples :

On June 27 2012 21:19 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 21:17 Notfragile wrote:
On June 27 2012 21:15 Logros wrote:
On June 27 2012 21:14 Ghanburighan wrote:
Looks a bit like the Freaky - Bomber game from yesterday. If Terran is supposed to base-race a maxed Z, then T also needs an answer to energy-based units.

Ghosts.


Really. When will we finally start seing a few ghosts in response to infestors?

Yeah you don't even need many. Usually the infestors are clumped up so 2-3 EMPs can clear out most of the energy.

User was warned for this post


On June 27 2012 21:21 Giku wrote:
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On June 27 2012 21:19 Logros wrote:
On June 27 2012 21:17 Notfragile wrote:
On June 27 2012 21:15 Logros wrote:
On June 27 2012 21:14 Ghanburighan wrote:
Looks a bit like the Freaky - Bomber game from yesterday. If Terran is supposed to base-race a maxed Z, then T also needs an answer to energy-based units.

Ghosts.


Really. When will we finally start seing a few ghosts in response to infestors?

Yeah you don't even need many. Usually the infestors are clumped up so 2-3 EMPs can clear out most of the energy.

User was warned for this post

Why was he warned? He has a point? Most infestors are clumped up, if you have cloak you can EMP them usually, well yeah, they might get an overseer, but you can snipe those easily?

User was warned for this post


On June 27 2012 21:21 s3rp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 21:19 Logros wrote:
On June 27 2012 21:17 Notfragile wrote:
On June 27 2012 21:15 Logros wrote:
On June 27 2012 21:14 Ghanburighan wrote:
Looks a bit like the Freaky - Bomber game from yesterday. If Terran is supposed to base-race a maxed Z, then T also needs an answer to energy-based units.

Ghosts.


Really. When will we finally start seing a few ghosts in response to infestors?

Yeah you don't even need many. Usually the infestors are clumped up so 2-3 EMPs can clear out most of the energy.

User was warned for this post


You do know how bad EMP radius is against Infestors ? You don't hit more than 2 maybe 3 even when they clump. They're that fat.

User was warned for this post


On June 27 2012 21:21 ZenithM wrote:
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On June 27 2012 21:13 Exarl25 wrote:
On June 27 2012 21:09 Nocteo wrote:
On June 27 2012 21:07 Exarl25 wrote:
On June 27 2012 21:06 darkness wrote:
3k gas... Terran desperately needs viable gas heavy units vs Z.


Or they could just mine less gas


Yea only toss and zerg can make gas heavy units which can single handily change the direction of a game.


Yeah all the good Terran units cost hardly any gas, poor Terran.

Anyway I'm just thinking practically, if you have no use for gas and need minerals then maybe just don't mine so much gas?

It has been explained before, so I'm just gonna repeat.
In very end game situation, when minerals get scarcer on the map, the main thing you can mine is gas. In those situation, Zerg and Protoss can rely on their ability to use gas, Terran cannot. It's the potential to use one resource fully that's not there for Terran. Of course you can decide to not mine gas, but you lose resources to mine to the other races. They can mine minerals and gas, you can't mine gas (not as much as them anyway), because you don't need it.
It would be fine if minerals were unlimited on the map, because you could argue that with mules, Terran can mine more minerals than Z or P, but in very end game high tech scenarios with few resources to mine from (like this game), it's not really the case, so you have to rely on gas (casters mostly).
I think we need to experiment more with mass ravens, but it requires a very costly infrastructure.

User was warned for this post



and so on... What is wrong with these posts, srlsly?

edit: not to mention the fact that a lot of actual imba whine is happenning in the very same thread and these posts receive no warning.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15364 Posts
June 27 2012 13:15 GMT
#3106
SolidMustard: Please take questions about moderation to Website Feedback.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
June 27 2012 13:23 GMT
#3107
On June 27 2012 22:15 zatic wrote:
SolidMustard: Please take questions about moderation to Website Feedback.


ok. it s gonna be the fourth time I post it, I wonder where I'm gonna be asked to post it next! (just kiddin, obviously ^^)
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19196 Posts
June 27 2012 13:31 GMT
#3108
On June 27 2012 21:27 Fencer710 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 21:18 tofucake wrote:
No. And if someone gives me a hammer I'll gladly ban everyone in the ABL thread

By "everyone", do you mean everyone?
Seems the logical thing to do.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
June 27 2012 13:37 GMT
#3109
On June 27 2012 22:31 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 21:27 Fencer710 wrote:
On June 27 2012 21:18 tofucake wrote:
No. And if someone gives me a hammer I'll gladly ban everyone in the ABL thread

By "everyone", do you mean everyone?
Seems the logical thing to do.


Now I'm scared :o

Question for anyone on staff: Favorite type/genre of music?
memes are a dish best served dank
rivurivurivurivu
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden140 Posts
June 27 2012 13:44 GMT
#3110
will the TL hoddie and the TL mousepad be able when the store open again ?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 27 2012 14:03 GMT
#3111
How often do mods facepalm when looking at reports?
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 14:27:39
June 27 2012 14:25 GMT
#3112
On June 27 2012 21:18 tofucake wrote:
No. And if someone gives me a hammer I'll gladly ban everyone in the ABL thread


I don't mean to dredge this up again, I know it's a bit off topic, but I feel the need to say something. You know, I realize the ABL is gotten pretty spamm-y, I'm not super happy about it, and yeah it needs to be addressed. But staff is partly responsible for the state of that thread, there's been a lot of instigating. I should point out that it was two veteran staff who encouraged the 5 solid pages of toast puns. I can also think of an instance of a staff member posting funny IRC chat logs, a staff member advertising their blog/interview, etc.

I think we can all (including myself, definetly) do a bit better job of respecting the thread and it's topic. But staff especially have a lot of power to influence the tone of a thread, and should keep that in mind when posting.

But there also needs to be a little respect for the natural evolution of a community. That thread's off topic-ness (honestly, often encouraged by me) has lead to some pretty awesome moments. A perfect example is the ABL mafia game that's going on right now. ABL offtopic-ness has spurred a couple community members (including myself) to put in some work hosting a mafia game for some newbies who are being introduced to the mafia community for the first time. Certainly some will like it and play again, strengthening and growing the Mafia community. That's awesome. It's also gotten two people involved in working on Pony Tales, generated some cool blogs, and also led to some all around epic moments. It has contributed to the community as a whole, and maybe that's why a small sub-community has formed around it. Don't be so quick to wish it back to "the way it was" on page 200 when it was all bans all the time. It's evolved to something much more than that.

Is it too 'clichy'? Absolutely. As with any part of this community, it needs to be directed and moderated appropriately. That's why I'm a bit bothered by this "allow whatever as long as it stays in the thread" attitude just as much as the 'moderate with an iron fist' attitude. Staff would never take that stance with any other part of TL, so I'm a bit disappointed that they would do so with the ABL thread. I'll say it again, you all have a lot of power to influence the tone of a thread. Mani used to be the one who'd step in when discussion got too far off topic or way off base, no one has really done anything similar since he got too busy. Do you think there's a coincidence that the thread has gotten rediculously spammific since then? We very much rely on you all to keep the peace and order on TL, even in the ABL. That's why most of us have such respect for the TL staff and what you all do.

-edit: I don't mean to derail this thread, sorry. This is all I'm going to say on the topic though, I'll drop the issue as of now. So take it for what you want.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19196 Posts
June 27 2012 14:47 GMT
#3113
I can't report staff and I can't ban people. What's more, since I have no authority, I'm not likely to be able to simply halt stupid discussions (toast puns) by saying "Stop being dumb".

Plenty of the off topic crap can be done in your IRC channel, and then a single post can be made like "hey we decided to have ABL mafia come play!" instead of 3 pages of "we should ban the losers" etc etc (I know I contributed a post to that discussion but whatever).

And I'm not saying go back to page 200, but I am saying when the topic is "BANS" and nobody talks about a ban for 10 pages because they are busy with puns, hamsters, mafia, and other crap, it's ridiculous. You're all treating the thread like an IRC room.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
June 27 2012 16:06 GMT
#3114
On June 27 2012 23:47 tofucake wrote:
You're all treating the thread like an IRC room.

Which is why I stopped posting as much as I did, I used to post (derail) a lot there, then the state of the thread got really annoying and I started trying to bring it back on topic by only posting about bans but it's pretty hard when I was the only one doing it and just now when the Hamster thread was opened I commented about it meaning less off topic discussion and I get a response like this:
On June 26 2012 18:52 Hypemeup wrote:
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On June 26 2012 17:33 Cokefreak wrote:
Wait so the hamster thread became the new random banter thread then? Cool, now I get to have my ban discussion back.


Hey dude did you totally see that dude get banned for being a Douchebag?! That was rad.

I think we should shift the blame to the mods for this going offtopic so much. Uncreative bans and all that!

And still no staff steps in to stop all the offtopic nonsense but instead they make remarks about it here which is just stupid when they really have all the power in the world (warning/ban button or thread lock) to end it right there.

The IRC-channel has existed for weeks now which should be enough of a reason to slap warnings to remind people to keep their random one-liners there.

I also think that the reason the topic has gotten into a really sad state lately is the 1000 page celebration, which lead to some retarded spammage which once again was caused by a staff member promising special bans to anyone posting into that page.

Sorry for once again derailing this thread but I really don't want to make a website feedback thread yet about this before trying to get the thread back on track with the sorry asses that I call the ABL gang(tm).
Ares[Effort] *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
June 27 2012 18:10 GMT
#3115
On June 27 2012 22:37 marttorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 22:31 tofucake wrote:
On June 27 2012 21:27 Fencer710 wrote:
On June 27 2012 21:18 tofucake wrote:
No. And if someone gives me a hammer I'll gladly ban everyone in the ABL thread

By "everyone", do you mean everyone?
Seems the logical thing to do.


Now I'm scared :o

Question for anyone on staff: Favorite type/genre of music?

I like tons of different genres but mainly rap/hiphop is my most frequently listened to
Moderatorgold coin
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
June 27 2012 18:53 GMT
#3116
On June 28 2012 03:10 Ares[Effort] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 22:37 marttorn wrote:
On June 27 2012 22:31 tofucake wrote:
On June 27 2012 21:27 Fencer710 wrote:
On June 27 2012 21:18 tofucake wrote:
No. And if someone gives me a hammer I'll gladly ban everyone in the ABL thread

By "everyone", do you mean everyone?
Seems the logical thing to do.


Now I'm scared :o

Question for anyone on staff: Favorite type/genre of music?

I like tons of different genres but mainly rap/hiphop is my most frequently listened to


Do you put it on really loud on your speakers and rap along with it when nobody's around?
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
June 27 2012 19:47 GMT
#3117
Excuse me, I have a request.

There are two TF2 threads.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=92652
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=236776

I love the game, but having two threads is unnecessary and splits comments especially considering that neither thread is entirely clear about whether it is the official TF2 thread.

I suggest that the first one linked be closed, the second designated as being the primary thread.

Is this possible?
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
June 27 2012 20:07 GMT
#3118
On June 27 2012 22:37 marttorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 22:31 tofucake wrote:
On June 27 2012 21:27 Fencer710 wrote:
On June 27 2012 21:18 tofucake wrote:
No. And if someone gives me a hammer I'll gladly ban everyone in the ABL thread

By "everyone", do you mean everyone?
Seems the logical thing to do.


Now I'm scared :o

Question for anyone on staff: Favorite type/genre of music?


This question gets asked like every couple dozen pages it feels like lol.

Classical.
TranslatorBaa!
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 27 2012 20:09 GMT
#3119
What's the most oft-repeated question?
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
June 27 2012 20:13 GMT
#3120
On June 27 2012 22:37 marttorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 22:31 tofucake wrote:
On June 27 2012 21:27 Fencer710 wrote:
On June 27 2012 21:18 tofucake wrote:
No. And if someone gives me a hammer I'll gladly ban everyone in the ABL thread

By "everyone", do you mean everyone?
Seems the logical thing to do.


Now I'm scared :o

Question for anyone on staff: Favorite type/genre of music?

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