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Alastair[LighT]
Canada2 Posts
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ManaBlue
Canada10458 Posts
Might I say, to all the new people that might read this, the rules outlined here are not as harsh as they seem. I act like a horses ass on a regular basis and everyone here is very tolerant of me. Don't be a stupid douche, and have a point when you decide to be an asshole, and all will be well.  | ||
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mitsy
United States1792 Posts
"Nothing has changed as a result of the introduction of the Commandments. The Commandments are really for the benefit of the new members, to let them know in advance how things are done around here." but doesn't how things are done around here vary year to year? couldn't new members be benefitted by more info and different info than these commandments? how much do these "let them know in advance how things are done around here" anymore, years later? | ||
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
Man, I forgot but what streak of BM prompted Mensrea to make the commandments again? That was awhile ago -_-;; damn... I feel like a Vet here too | ||
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mitsy
United States1792 Posts
people that come here to advertise a web site, make money, spread chain letters, etc. get banned (they make it too obvious they don't even care about being here becaues they have 1-3 posts and all they are saying is "yo check this out") insults are more complicated. i think some people started getting banned for racism and flaming purely out of some idea to "follow the commandments," which, according to mensrea, was never the intention. the internet is a rough place. i think the general idea of tlnet is more to weed out posters that seem to have nothing to offer and also irritate many people. if u go back and review a certain person's last 300 posts, for some people u see absolutely _nothing_ worth reading, and many things _painful_ to read. these people are banned. sometimes preemptively through a little prediction and guesswork. the degree of this fluctuates depending on the season--the mods have lives, after all. i guess what i'm saying is that in some lucky months or even times of day some fuckers who clearly will be banned soon get by for a while, while others get the boot on their 12th post. this "inconsistency" can look unfair to new users but it's really reasonable when you think about it. some people just avoid getting noticed longer than others. and more rarely, controversial regulars like reaper get banned because they tick off enough staff a few too many times with stubbornness and hardheadedness and maybe a heated exchange. i think this is unfortunate and probably towards stagnation. is it really worth the big loss in discussions just to try to avoid disagreement? this is a discussion forum after all, and sometimes we really lack things to discuss. i think there's plenty of more boring people that nevre post anything worht reading that get by that would be better bans than controversial, honest folk. that's been my unpopular opinion for some time, thatn someone who posts completely welcome yet insubstanitive things should be less welcome than someone who perhaps is hated but always looking for a new thing to discuss. | ||
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
... ... you WERE talkin about yourself in the last bit right? -_-;; | ||
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mitsy
United States1792 Posts
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BroOd
Austin10831 Posts
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mitsy
United States1792 Posts
look at Sacajawea's participation in http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=35412 for a perfect example of the pattern i'm talking about my motives always become the topic instead of my words and ideas, which get almost no response from the peanut gallery. ml1710 says i'm just trying to "create controversy"; CrownRoyal "wonders" if i make threads just to argue. i'm not and i don't (but obviously a discussion forum would be a pretty pointless place if all every thread was was a starting post followed by three hundred "yeah" posts). someone disagrees with my opinion, and instead of saying their opinion or their objection to mine, they insult me or say i have ulterior, insincere, anti-forum motives. THAT is anti-forum if you ask me. what's the reply instead? "ban mitsy plz" "quit trying to create controversy" "full of shit" "yes ban him!" On January 03 2006 03:46 BroOd wrote: You need to realize that all criticism isn't a direct assault on you personally, and not everyone "hates" on you because of who you are. u trying to tell me that the shit i mention above is purposeful criticism with some kind of point other than following me around hating me unintelligibly? | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27148 Posts
On topic, people who follow these commandments will generally not get banned. If they do, call it the eggs to make an omlette. As should be obvious, the rules here have relaxed some, not gotten heavier, and that in itself should be enough of a rebuttle to your argument. I would prefer not to have this discussion here as well. | ||
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mitsy
United States1792 Posts
On January 03 2006 04:04 Manifesto7 wrote: Maybe, stimey, you need to look at the reason people react to you, and no one else, this way. what's the reason? you're implying there is one, and that i can see it. why don't you spell it out for me? what is this reason that justify's Sacajawea's behavior? the person with the most negative reactions isn't necessarily the worst person. in fact, more times than not probably the person with no negative reactions is the one doing the most fundamentally wrong thing. On January 03 2006 04:04 Manifesto7 wrote: On topic, people who follow these commandments will generally not get banned. If they do, call it the eggs to make an omlette. As should be obvious, the rules here have relaxed some, not gotten heavier, and that in itself should be enough of a rebuttle to your argument. and how does that the staff "has gotten lax on the rules" rebut anything? saying that at all seems to miss the entire point of my argument..... that they weren't rules to begin with! they were a description of what the mods DO. if you interpret mod behavior solely relative to these rules you have completely missed the boat here. these rules were an interpetation of mod behavior offered up so newbies would have an idea. that's what mensrea says right there at the top of the post, mani. | ||
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
Commandments are Commandments. Moses didn't bitch at God for em..... JLIG | ||
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BroOd
Austin10831 Posts
You parade around here with this illegitimate forum machismo, acting like everyone is wrong but you, when in truth, you're just bitter and resentful, still reeling from your ban. You need to accept that it was a warranted ban, and move on. You were becoming an obnoxious nuisance, too caught up in your own sense outrage to realize what a drag you were becoming. No matter how desperately you try to mask your incredulousness as some form of altruism, you remain transparent. Your subsequent bans, as rednob and feuerbach are debatable, but irrelevant. I think you're well aware of the fact that you've become a tedious bore, but would also love to argue the semantics of that claim into the depths of oblivion, but I'd rather not. I wish there was an easy way for me to help you gain some perspective on youself, but there isn't. It's alot harder for anyone to relate to your ideas when you're up there on the cross. | ||
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CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
the retards following stimey in every thread don't have a good reason, and even if they did, they don't seem to care enough about it to articulate it beyond 'you whine 2 much' or 'your clogging up our sweet forum with bullshit'. what's the harm in letting stimey theorize all he wants about forum regulations, and just not implement them? | ||
Hot_Bid
Braavos36374 Posts
brood said it pretty well. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On January 03 2006 04:18 SuperJongMan wrote: JLIG time -_-; Commandments are Commandments. Moses didn't bitch at God for em..... JLIG you are one of my proudest pupils | ||
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mitsy
United States1792 Posts
On January 03 2006 04:28 BroOd wrote: Stimey, my point is I've never once seen you take a piece of well though-out criticism as such, and don't pretend that there haven't been any. who the fuck cares what you saw or never saw? i've never seen you take a dump. should i conclude that you are full of shit? no. you don't know what goes on in my head. show me where these well thought-out criticisms are that i did not respond to adequately--show me the ones that i missed the point on, from what you could tell. i have little recollection of any criticism of me that can be called "thought-out" in the slightest. You parade around here with this illegitimate forum machismo, acting like everyone is wrong but you, when in truth, you're just bitter and resentful, still reeling from your ban. You need to accept that it was a warranted ban, and move on. You were becoming an obnoxious nuisance, too caught up in your own sense outrage to realize what a drag you were becoming. No matter how desperately you try to mask your incredulousness as some form of altruism, you remain transparent. Your subsequent bans, as rednob and feuerbach are debatable, but irrelevant. i'm not the one who keeps bringing up topics like this. people like you need to shut the fuck up because you have no idea what you're talking about. i'm not bitter about a ban. i don't have a grudge against staff or admins or whatever. i've said what i think of this or that ban or threat of ban, closing of topic, as much as i feel i can without pissing off admins and greatly increasing what i perceive to be a risk of ban. why does everyone have to assume that my opinions are always worthless puppets of some grudge? sure, in a perfect world i think there are things wrong with this or that ban. i've tried to raise these points as productively, positively, and hypothetically as possible and the responses i got were still "god u whine so much, get over it." i get the message. if anyone is interested in my ideas, they aren't showing it. that's fine. but a forum, to some extent, is about putting ideas out there to be discussed. that's all i do. people need to stop bitching because my ideas involve theorizing a _change_. if i said that we should have more horses in the fucking logo that's not an insult. and if i say the site would benefit from banning people by a different procedure why can't anyone discuss that instead of just attacking me or bitching about me? why can't people own up to their disagreement, why do they skapegoat me instead of saying how their opinion is different and moving on? I think you're well aware of the fact that you've become a tedious bore, but would also love to argue the semantics of that claim into the depths of oblivion, but I'd rather not. I wish there was an easy way for me to help you gain some perspective on youself, but there isn't. It's alot harder for anyone to relate to your ideas when you're up there on the cross. what's become a tedious bore is people interpretting everything i say, no matter what it is, no matter how i say it, as some kind of bitter, grudging attack on such and such. if that's all you see then don't fucking respond. because that's not a discussion. i put ideas out there, i try to back them up with reasons, and all people do is call me names and speculate about my motives, like i'm trying to sabatage the site or make people hate the admins. i've done everything i can to not appear that way and that's still all people like you seem to see. is it impossible here to have ideas for things being done differently without it being insulting and threatening to those executing the current plans? the way u talk u make it seem like it isn't. i'm just glad you're not the one who decides who to ban or we wouldn't have much to discuss on these discussion forums. | ||
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prOxi.swAMi
Australia3091 Posts
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CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11577 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28665 Posts
"who the fuck cares what you saw or never saw? i've never seen you take a dump. should i conclude that you are full of shit? " thats the best quote ive ever seen anywhere in my life hahahahaha | ||
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