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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
July 29 2011 06:32 GMT
#4921
On July 29 2011 07:53 bkrow wrote:
Who is the biggest Staff BW/SC2 noob in terms of league? (besides me of course)

I can hardly beat a computer in BW. ;_____;
Translator:3
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 09:38:49
July 29 2011 08:05 GMT
#4922
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 29 2011 15:22 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 11:42 Joedaddy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

Serious Question for TL Staff:

TL has a strong history of standing on principle. There are guidelines and rules set up to ensure the content and quality on this site remains at the highest levels. This is why most of us love TL.net.

So, when I ran across a stream today and read the following I was confused and outraged:

+ Show Spoiler +
Description: Currently Streaming: StarCraft II - Starting at Bronze and working my way up! 10:00 once again, Season 3 is out and I lost about 132 games to reach the magical bronze level. Why? 1. Because I enjoy the feeling of progression, even if my own skill is not progressing.

2. I am very rusty and haven't played in awhile. I am obviously not as unrefined as bronze, but this leads me to my third point.

3. My army and unit control is horrendous, while my macro is decent at at least platinum, my army/unit control has lost me many games because of poor control, crisis management and understanding of my own units.

So onward we go. I will reach at least high-diamond by sometime in the future. For now, I intend to play all games to the later stages to fully develop large unit forces and diverse ones at that.

I did have the intention of learning a new race such as Protoss or Terran, but I wouldn't know where to begin and it would seem like a very difficult task.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=181358&curren

Current rank: Bronze - rank 5 at 246 points (approx. 140 losses)!
__________________________________

Hello, my name is Tortellini (a.k.a Pound Cake or [FOOD]). I am currently streaming StarCraft 2 to improve (Zerg, Masters)! I may also play some Team-League games with fellow members of the CSC, a university club I founded (the Concordia StarCraft Community here in Montreal) and/or NR (The Northern Resistance) established in the Toronto/Montreal areas of Canada.

Season 1 - 1 vs. 1 statistic: 3.22k Diamond, Zerg
Season 2 - 1 vs. 1 statistic: 1.06k Master's Zerg

Always looking for feedback on my gaming and the quality of my stream. Any contributions, ideas or suggestions are appreciated!

Please note that I may attempt to commentate (with fellow amateur co-commentators)! If there is a way I can improve my commentating or things I have poorly worded or explained, post here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=181358! I love all forms of constructive feedback!


Basically, this guy has played at a low masters level but has intentionally demoted to bronze every season. I personally would like to see this individual lose his privilege of streaming on TL. I think its disrespectful to the lower league players and very inconsistent with TL standards as I have come to understand them.

My question is: Does TL condone and accept this kind of streaming where a masters player loses games on purpose to stay in bronze?


He he...

Ho, ho. Aah it hurts, please stop. You're killing me...

It's outrageous. I am outraged! The rage has been outed! No wait, not that last one.

Serious question here, are you really worried that TL's reputation will be forever besmirched by Torte's tanking? There are far worse things to concern you my friend. Can you imagine if TL went around closing streams everytime some-one did something not exactly ethical on them?

Threats? Na ah.
Bad language? Off you go.
Cheese? well we can't have that.

Torte does a hell of a lot for TL, I am sure that tanking his record is not going to change anyone's view of TL or Torte.

My 2c.




Beautiful white knighting. What torte is doing is specifically outlined as a bannable offense by blizzard. See http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2416160162. This is a competitive game and I thought the integrity of the competition was important to SC2 esports enthusiasts. Maybe I'm a zealot and I'm the only one who feels this way. Maybe I'm not. Either way, I had a concern about some of the content on the site and I asked a question. I'm not attacking torte as a person or a posting contributor to TL. Anyone who spends enough time on TL to post 184.03 times per week (8,652 total posts and hasn't even been a member a full year yet) obviously has a lot to contribute to TL.

(Edit to the guy below me: Your profile does the math on total posts, posts per week, posts per day, and posts today It was only to emphasize the extraordinary number of contributions by torte as I did not want any other white knights to think I'd overlooked them)
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
July 29 2011 09:14 GMT
#4923
On July 29 2011 17:05 Joedaddy wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 29 2011 15:22 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 11:42 Joedaddy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

Serious Question for TL Staff:

TL has a strong history of standing on principle. There are guidelines and rules set up to ensure the content and quality on this site remains at the highest levels. This is why most of us love TL.net.

So, when I ran across a stream today and read the following I was confused and outraged:

+ Show Spoiler +
Description: Currently Streaming: StarCraft II - Starting at Bronze and working my way up! 10:00 once again, Season 3 is out and I lost about 132 games to reach the magical bronze level. Why? 1. Because I enjoy the feeling of progression, even if my own skill is not progressing.

2. I am very rusty and haven't played in awhile. I am obviously not as unrefined as bronze, but this leads me to my third point.

3. My army and unit control is horrendous, while my macro is decent at at least platinum, my army/unit control has lost me many games because of poor control, crisis management and understanding of my own units.

So onward we go. I will reach at least high-diamond by sometime in the future. For now, I intend to play all games to the later stages to fully develop large unit forces and diverse ones at that.

I did have the intention of learning a new race such as Protoss or Terran, but I wouldn't know where to begin and it would seem like a very difficult task.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=181358&curren

Current rank: Bronze - rank 5 at 246 points (approx. 140 losses)!
__________________________________

Hello, my name is Tortellini (a.k.a Pound Cake or [FOOD]). I am currently streaming StarCraft 2 to improve (Zerg, Masters)! I may also play some Team-League games with fellow members of the CSC, a university club I founded (the Concordia StarCraft Community here in Montreal) and/or NR (The Northern Resistance) established in the Toronto/Montreal areas of Canada.

Season 1 - 1 vs. 1 statistic: 3.22k Diamond, Zerg
Season 2 - 1 vs. 1 statistic: 1.06k Master's Zerg

Always looking for feedback on my gaming and the quality of my stream. Any contributions, ideas or suggestions are appreciated!

Please note that I may attempt to commentate (with fellow amateur co-commentators)! If there is a way I can improve my commentating or things I have poorly worded or explained, post here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=181358! I love all forms of constructive feedback!


Basically, this guy has played at a low masters level but has intentionally demoted to bronze every season. I personally would like to see this individual lose his privilege of streaming on TL. I think its disrespectful to the lower league players and very inconsistent with TL standards as I have come to understand them.

My question is: Does TL condone and accept this kind of streaming where a masters player loses games on purpose to stay in bronze?


He he...

Ho, ho. Aah it hurts, please stop. You're killing me...

It's outrageous. I am outraged! The rage has been outed! No wait, not that last one.

Serious question here, are you really worried that TL's reputation will be forever besmirched by Torte's tanking? There are far worse things to concern you my friend. Can you imagine if TL went around closing streams everytime some-one did something not exactly ethical on them?

Threats? Na ah.
Bad language? Off you go.
Cheese? well we can't have that.

Torte does a hell of a lot for TL, I am sure that tanking his record is not going to change anyone's view of TL or Torte.

My 2c.




Beautiful white knighting. What torte is doing is specifically outlined as a bannable offense by blizzard. See http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2416160162. This is a competitive game and I thought the integrity of the competition was important to SC2 esports enthusiasts. Maybe I'm a zealot and I'm the only one who feels this way. Maybe I'm not. Either way, I had a concern about some of the content on the site and I asked a question. I'm not attacking torte as a person or a posting contributor to TL. Anyone who spends enough time on TL to post 184.03 times per week (8,652 total posts and hasn't even been a member a full year yet) obviously has a lot to contribute to TL.



Nice that you took your time calculating these numbers. you may wanna recalculate them on an hourly basis .... for no specific reason
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Espelz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany818 Posts
July 29 2011 09:39 GMT
#4924
On July 29 2011 18:14 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 17:05 Joedaddy wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 29 2011 15:22 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 11:42 Joedaddy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

Serious Question for TL Staff:

TL has a strong history of standing on principle. There are guidelines and rules set up to ensure the content and quality on this site remains at the highest levels. This is why most of us love TL.net.

So, when I ran across a stream today and read the following I was confused and outraged:

+ Show Spoiler +
Description: Currently Streaming: StarCraft II - Starting at Bronze and working my way up! 10:00 once again, Season 3 is out and I lost about 132 games to reach the magical bronze level. Why? 1. Because I enjoy the feeling of progression, even if my own skill is not progressing.

2. I am very rusty and haven't played in awhile. I am obviously not as unrefined as bronze, but this leads me to my third point.

3. My army and unit control is horrendous, while my macro is decent at at least platinum, my army/unit control has lost me many games because of poor control, crisis management and understanding of my own units.

So onward we go. I will reach at least high-diamond by sometime in the future. For now, I intend to play all games to the later stages to fully develop large unit forces and diverse ones at that.

I did have the intention of learning a new race such as Protoss or Terran, but I wouldn't know where to begin and it would seem like a very difficult task.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=181358&curren

Current rank: Bronze - rank 5 at 246 points (approx. 140 losses)!
__________________________________

Hello, my name is Tortellini (a.k.a Pound Cake or [FOOD]). I am currently streaming StarCraft 2 to improve (Zerg, Masters)! I may also play some Team-League games with fellow members of the CSC, a university club I founded (the Concordia StarCraft Community here in Montreal) and/or NR (The Northern Resistance) established in the Toronto/Montreal areas of Canada.

Season 1 - 1 vs. 1 statistic: 3.22k Diamond, Zerg
Season 2 - 1 vs. 1 statistic: 1.06k Master's Zerg

Always looking for feedback on my gaming and the quality of my stream. Any contributions, ideas or suggestions are appreciated!

Please note that I may attempt to commentate (with fellow amateur co-commentators)! If there is a way I can improve my commentating or things I have poorly worded or explained, post here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=181358! I love all forms of constructive feedback!


Basically, this guy has played at a low masters level but has intentionally demoted to bronze every season. I personally would like to see this individual lose his privilege of streaming on TL. I think its disrespectful to the lower league players and very inconsistent with TL standards as I have come to understand them.

My question is: Does TL condone and accept this kind of streaming where a masters player loses games on purpose to stay in bronze?


He he...

Ho, ho. Aah it hurts, please stop. You're killing me...

It's outrageous. I am outraged! The rage has been outed! No wait, not that last one.

Serious question here, are you really worried that TL's reputation will be forever besmirched by Torte's tanking? There are far worse things to concern you my friend. Can you imagine if TL went around closing streams everytime some-one did something not exactly ethical on them?

Threats? Na ah.
Bad language? Off you go.
Cheese? well we can't have that.

Torte does a hell of a lot for TL, I am sure that tanking his record is not going to change anyone's view of TL or Torte.

My 2c.




Beautiful white knighting. What torte is doing is specifically outlined as a bannable offense by blizzard. See http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2416160162. This is a competitive game and I thought the integrity of the competition was important to SC2 esports enthusiasts. Maybe I'm a zealot and I'm the only one who feels this way. Maybe I'm not. Either way, I had a concern about some of the content on the site and I asked a question. I'm not attacking torte as a person or a posting contributor to TL. Anyone who spends enough time on TL to post 184.03 times per week (8,652 total posts and hasn't even been a member a full year yet) obviously has a lot to contribute to TL.



Nice that you took your time calculating these numbers. you may wanna recalculate them on an hourly basis .... for no specific reason


Yeah, because you can´t just look up the users profile and see posts per week there...
"Its not over till Fantasy gg´s" - Sayle
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
July 29 2011 10:49 GMT
#4925
Omg you can see TDL's true post count in his profile. That kind of ruins the point of it
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 11:31:50
July 29 2011 11:21 GMT
#4926
On July 29 2011 18:14 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 17:05 Joedaddy wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 29 2011 15:22 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 11:42 Joedaddy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

Serious Question for TL Staff:

TL has a strong history of standing on principle. There are guidelines and rules set up to ensure the content and quality on this site remains at the highest levels. This is why most of us love TL.net.

So, when I ran across a stream today and read the following I was confused and outraged:

+ Show Spoiler +
Description: Currently Streaming: StarCraft II - Starting at Bronze and working my way up! 10:00 once again, Season 3 is out and I lost about 132 games to reach the magical bronze level. Why? 1. Because I enjoy the feeling of progression, even if my own skill is not progressing.

2. I am very rusty and haven't played in awhile. I am obviously not as unrefined as bronze, but this leads me to my third point.

3. My army and unit control is horrendous, while my macro is decent at at least platinum, my army/unit control has lost me many games because of poor control, crisis management and understanding of my own units.

So onward we go. I will reach at least high-diamond by sometime in the future. For now, I intend to play all games to the later stages to fully develop large unit forces and diverse ones at that.

I did have the intention of learning a new race such as Protoss or Terran, but I wouldn't know where to begin and it would seem like a very difficult task.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=181358&curren

Current rank: Bronze - rank 5 at 246 points (approx. 140 losses)!
__________________________________

Hello, my name is Tortellini (a.k.a Pound Cake or [FOOD]). I am currently streaming StarCraft 2 to improve (Zerg, Masters)! I may also play some Team-League games with fellow members of the CSC, a university club I founded (the Concordia StarCraft Community here in Montreal) and/or NR (The Northern Resistance) established in the Toronto/Montreal areas of Canada.

Season 1 - 1 vs. 1 statistic: 3.22k Diamond, Zerg
Season 2 - 1 vs. 1 statistic: 1.06k Master's Zerg

Always looking for feedback on my gaming and the quality of my stream. Any contributions, ideas or suggestions are appreciated!

Please note that I may attempt to commentate (with fellow amateur co-commentators)! If there is a way I can improve my commentating or things I have poorly worded or explained, post here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=181358! I love all forms of constructive feedback!


Basically, this guy has played at a low masters level but has intentionally demoted to bronze every season. I personally would like to see this individual lose his privilege of streaming on TL. I think its disrespectful to the lower league players and very inconsistent with TL standards as I have come to understand them.

My question is: Does TL condone and accept this kind of streaming where a masters player loses games on purpose to stay in bronze?


He he...

Ho, ho. Aah it hurts, please stop. You're killing me...

It's outrageous. I am outraged! The rage has been outed! No wait, not that last one.

Serious question here, are you really worried that TL's reputation will be forever besmirched by Torte's tanking? There are far worse things to concern you my friend. Can you imagine if TL went around closing streams everytime some-one did something not exactly ethical on them?

Threats? Na ah.
Bad language? Off you go.
Cheese? well we can't have that.

Torte does a hell of a lot for TL, I am sure that tanking his record is not going to change anyone's view of TL or Torte.

My 2c.




Beautiful white knighting. What torte is doing is specifically outlined as a bannable offense by blizzard. See http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2416160162. This is a competitive game and I thought the integrity of the competition was important to SC2 esports enthusiasts. Maybe I'm a zealot and I'm the only one who feels this way. Maybe I'm not. Either way, I had a concern about some of the content on the site and I asked a question. I'm not attacking torte as a person or a posting contributor to TL. Anyone who spends enough time on TL to post 184.03 times per week (8,652 total posts and hasn't even been a member a full year yet) obviously has a lot to contribute to TL.



Nice that you took your time calculating these numbers. you may wanna recalculate them on an hourly basis .... for no specific reason


7.667 posts per hour.
0.128 posts per minute.

have we gone deep enough?

(i did those special btw, not in the profile )

<SirJolt> WOW
<SirJolt> .128 posts per minute mens Torte has made a post every eight minutes since he joined
<SirJolt> The man never sleeps
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SirJolt
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
the Dagon Knight4002 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 11:25:11
July 29 2011 11:22 GMT
#4927
Torte, the only really egregious part of all that is this

Why? 1. Because I enjoy the feeling of progression, even if my own skill is not progressing.


It seems as though you're entirely willing to sacrifice other people's play experience (bronze/silver/gold players, specifically) so that you can enjoy that feeling of progression. It's possible that I only feel this way because I'm a relatively low-level player myself, but that probably shouldn't make it any less valid.

The only other point to make, I guess, is that it actively makes your stream less interesting to watch. Surely the time you spend in bronze/silver/gold is pretty much going to be the TDL bronze-bashing bonanza?

Sorry if I come across as being really fervent about this, I'm just totally bewildered by it. It's not so much that I think there should be anything enforced, it's just a side to Torte that I hadn't seen before, and it's a side that disappoints me on somehow. I guess I just expected more.
Moderator@SirJolt
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
July 29 2011 13:23 GMT
#4928
On July 29 2011 15:32 infinitestory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 07:53 bkrow wrote:
Who is the biggest Staff BW/SC2 noob in terms of league? (besides me of course)

I can hardly beat a computer in BW. ;_____;

but can you beat a cheep in BW?
Moderator。◕‿◕。
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49986 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 13:40:36
July 29 2011 13:40 GMT
#4929
can someone close this thread?its just going round and round.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 15:28:57
July 29 2011 15:14 GMT
#4930
On July 29 2011 11:42 Joedaddy wrote:
Serious Question for TL Staff:

TL has a strong history of standing on principle. There are guidelines and rules set up to ensure the content and quality on this site remains at the highest levels. This is why most of us love TL.net.

So, when I ran across a stream today and read the following I was confused and outraged:

+ Show Spoiler +
Description: Currently Streaming: StarCraft II - Starting at Bronze and working my way up! 10:00 once again, Season 3 is out and I lost about 132 games to reach the magical bronze level. Why? 1. Because I enjoy the feeling of progression, even if my own skill is not progressing.

2. I am very rusty and haven't played in awhile. I am obviously not as unrefined as bronze, but this leads me to my third point.

3. My army and unit control is horrendous, while my macro is decent at at least platinum, my army/unit control has lost me many games because of poor control, crisis management and understanding of my own units.

So onward we go. I will reach at least high-diamond by sometime in the future. For now, I intend to play all games to the later stages to fully develop large unit forces and diverse ones at that.

I did have the intention of learning a new race such as Protoss or Terran, but I wouldn't know where to begin and it would seem like a very difficult task.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=181358&curren

Current rank: Bronze - rank 5 at 246 points (approx. 140 losses)!
__________________________________

Hello, my name is Tortellini (a.k.a Pound Cake or [FOOD]). I am currently streaming StarCraft 2 to improve (Zerg, Masters)! I may also play some Team-League games with fellow members of the CSC, a university club I founded (the Concordia StarCraft Community here in Montreal) and/or NR (The Northern Resistance) established in the Toronto/Montreal areas of Canada.

Season 1 - 1 vs. 1 statistic: 3.22k Diamond, Zerg
Season 2 - 1 vs. 1 statistic: 1.06k Master's Zerg

Always looking for feedback on my gaming and the quality of my stream. Any contributions, ideas or suggestions are appreciated!

Please note that I may attempt to commentate (with fellow amateur co-commentators)! If there is a way I can improve my commentating or things I have poorly worded or explained, post here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=181358! I love all forms of constructive feedback!


Basically, this guy has played at a low masters level but has intentionally demoted to bronze every season. I personally would like to see this individual lose his privilege of streaming on TL. I think its disrespectful to the lower league players and very inconsistent with TL standards as I have come to understand them.

My question is: Does TL condone and accept this kind of streaming where a masters player loses games on purpose to stay in bronze?


+ Show Spoiler +
My stance was that it is indeed perhaps not something agreeably acceptable to everyone. But to view it as something heinous or intentionally hurtful to remove my privileges was something I disagreed with, but acknowledged exterior feedback. Whether people agree or not is why I asked you to talk about it publicly (we spoke extensive via JTV Chat however).

Today I lost 3 bronze league matches and one two days ago (A ZvZ, almost a ZvT and a ZvP). I play all my opponents for at least 20 minutes and I've asked 3 to 4 of these bronze players if they minded if a Master's player was playing in their ranks to brush up on some of his/her mechanics in a safe and comfortable environment (where the concept of Macroing are less intensive and demanding, so I can focus more on my biggest issue [which has cost me games even in Bronze: replays can be provided]). None really were bothered (I have the replays if interested) and I would leave if some were ever bothered.

There's a huge misinterpretation on your part however. I'm not "staying in bronze". I am starting in bronze. I don't intentionally lose games to remain within this league nor do I humiliate, BM or attack my opponents. I play for a full 20 minutes or when I reach a 200/200 army of diverse units to practice what I was set out to do. This could be achieved in custom games, but I would get a fluctuation of equally skilled and lowered skilled opponents which would be upsetting or not a clear indication of any actual improvement on my ability to control my units.

The downside to this methodology, which I explained to you, was that build orders and other aspects of my game would become sloppy or cut corners (not scouting for example). But this would probably be refined as I improve in ranks and leagues.

The disrespect that could be viewed would be the fact that I am "wasting" their time by playing a full 20 minutes. But I see it as also allowing them to play the full extent of their ideas of builds. This doesn't validate or justify my choice to drop down to bronze, but it also takes into account another alternative perspective.

The idea of win-trading is silly. I'm not trading wins with anyone nor is the intent to stay in bronze, you're stretching a bit of truth, while Blizzard could interpret tanking one's MMR to go into bronze to gain more achievements or portraits, you already know the intent or interest and intentionally feigning ignorance.

SirJolt: I think I covered most of your disappointment. To deem an equivalent to someone who instantly leaves or cheeses him is a worse experience than someone who plays a full 20-minute game, every game to allow the other player to play to the full extent of his build. Is that acceptable? No, it doesn't make what I'm doing any less disappointing, but I can promptly say that if I just wanted to win all my games, I could do it.

In any case, for me to reverse what I'm doing is parallel to what I'm doing, just a lot faster. I'm giving the players a respectful match even if I already know the outcome (and they don't, so if they think it's a regular long game, what play experience is differing here?).

As for the less interesting. I do what I can to deem it worthwhile or interesting to watch. There are some games where I suggest the other player to expand or we find out why he made 17 cannons in his base without any ever attacking him). So the entertainment is there, I'm just not Destiny winning games with only Infestors nor do I sink to a level of obnoxious arrogance and tell my opponent off (anyone who watches my stream can see I'm relatively calm and nice person). I talk about the music I'm playing, how I like to place my overlords, etc. Half the game is interacting with your opponent, the other half is your own strategy and style which can be both education or interactive with those who disagree. With the relief of being at a low-level, the mechanics are less demanding and require less focus, thus allowing me to more freely talk and chat (I lost a ZvZ because I got greedy and he threw 6 lings and then 4 roaches at me and I promptly lost even though we had the same number of drones. It was really amazing!). In any case, I'm not bothered by nobody watching and even sometimes prefer that only 5 people are watching (makes talking to them a lot more fun and feel like it's just "between friends").

Lastly, I've already lost some bronze games. I am pretty terrible. I hadn't play any full 1 vs. 1 games or any full StarCraft games in Season for about 2 months or so? Maybe more with the occasional cheesy game.


It's impossible for me to post 8 minutes a day, every day. That's silly.
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ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
July 29 2011 15:22 GMT
#4931
When is the last time someone logged in from this region?
I'm on vacation in the dominican!

Also if you use your 20 min internet time to liquibet are you addicted to teamliquid?
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
July 29 2011 15:39 GMT
#4932
On July 29 2011 22:23 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 15:32 infinitestory wrote:
On July 29 2011 07:53 bkrow wrote:
Who is the biggest Staff BW/SC2 noob in terms of league? (besides me of course)

I can hardly beat a computer in BW. ;_____;

but can you beat a cheep in BW?


ask kennigit and pachi if they can beat computers.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 29 2011 15:48 GMT
#4933
Infinitestory: The Zerg AI is insanely good ):
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 18:12:08
July 29 2011 18:11 GMT
#4934
On July 30 2011 00:22 ComaDose wrote:
When is the last time someone logged in from this region?
I'm on vacation in the dominican!

Also if you use your 20 min internet time to liquibet are you addicted to teamliquid?


No, you have a liquigambling problem stemming from your excessive liquibetting that you may or may not need to go to liquirehab for later in life.

EDIT: You'll know it's a problem when you find yourself betting real eSports dollars in illegal underground liquibetting rings.
you gotta dance
Neo7
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States922 Posts
July 29 2011 18:15 GMT
#4935
If TL staff were in a pinch for lunch and had to choose a fast food place, what would be their choice and what order they would get?
It takes an idiot to do cool things.
AdamBanks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada996 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 18:20:23
July 29 2011 18:19 GMT
#4936
Is there a thread or a process where one can reqest to become a moderator or baneling? A quick search of the forum keywords "mod" "become a mod" and "moderator" leads me only to one [pg]Rekrul's closed "Want to become a Moderator" thread.

If there is no process or thread; does anyone know if/when more mods will be recuited?

edit: wtf was pg? xD
I wrote a song once.
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
July 29 2011 18:26 GMT
#4937
On July 30 2011 03:19 AdamBanks wrote:
Is there a thread or a process where one can reqest to become a moderator or baneling? A quick search of the forum keywords "mod" "become a mod" and "moderator" leads me only to one [pg]Rekrul's closed "Want to become a Moderator" thread.

If there is no process or thread; does anyone know if/when more mods will be recuited?

edit: wtf was pg? xD

As far as I'm aware, specifically requesting a position on the mod staff will drastically lessen your chances of ever acquiring said position.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
July 29 2011 18:27 GMT
#4938
On July 30 2011 03:19 AdamBanks wrote:
Is there a thread or a process where one can reqest to become a moderator or baneling? A quick search of the forum keywords "mod" "become a mod" and "moderator" leads me only to one [pg]Rekrul's closed "Want to become a Moderator" thread.

If there is no process or thread; does anyone know if/when more mods will be recuited?

edit: wtf was pg? xD

From what I have observed, the way it usually works is that you prove your value to the community in some fashion, and they come to you. Example: Barrin. He maintains one of the most comprehensive mapping resource thread, and looked after the custom map forum for a long time, and now he's a banling.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 19:40:43
July 29 2011 19:18 GMT
#4939
The idea of win-trading is silly. I'm not trading wins with anyone nor is the intent to stay in bronze, you're stretching a bit of truth, while Blizzard could interpret tanking one's MMR to go into bronze to gain more achievements or portraits, you already know the intent or interest and intentionally feigning ignorance.


What blizz says:

This is a warning that the practice of purposefully losing games and/or automating gameplay can be met with suspension from the game, revoking of achievements and portraits earned, or permanent closure of the account. If you're found to be automating your gameplay and/or purposefully losing games or win trading, your account will come under scrutiny, and any of the aforementioned actions may be taken.


Regardless of your intent, its at the expense of lower league players. You can sugar coat it with good intentions but the bottom line is you're account is subject to ban. I understand that its a blizz problem specifically and not a TL problem. I brought it up on TL because I honestly thought that when mods saw some garbage stream about masters learning to play vs bronze they'd remove it.

You do what you want. I'd just rather you not be able to stream content on TL that is "watch me lose on purpose to learn how to micro vs people 5 leagues lower than me." I'm done with this now. Its between you and the mods to decide if its worthwhile.
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
July 29 2011 19:25 GMT
#4940
On July 30 2011 00:39 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 22:23 Harem wrote:
On July 29 2011 15:32 infinitestory wrote:
On July 29 2011 07:53 bkrow wrote:
Who is the biggest Staff BW/SC2 noob in terms of league? (besides me of course)

I can hardly beat a computer in BW. ;_____;

but can you beat a cheep in BW?


ask kennigit and pachi if they can beat computers.


During TSL2 R1CH beat someone on iccup. He 4 pooled on HBR and it went to a base trade, the replay is really intense.
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