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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13004 Posts
November 26 2010 05:45 GMT
#3681
On November 26 2010 09:25 Energies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2010 06:39 Liquid`Meat wrote:
I placed 2 orders at iherb, 4$ shipping for orders under $80 and a certain weight. Received both orders in about a week. Site rocks


I told someone at work about it, he did his entire family's order. $350 worth of stuff. Which would equate to something like $1200 worth if he bought it here in Australia.
-----------

Question.

Am I going to develop any physical imbalances as I progress more and more through SS, IF my bench and op are always significantly lower?

I fucked up my left rotator cuff about 12-18 months ago and it has never been the same.

I mean it's kind of ridiculous, I was at about 80kg bench and around 55kg op when I injured my shoulder. And since then, even though I have increased my squat and deadlift by about 40% my Bench and op are about 70kg/40kg.... Pretty soon I'm going to be squatting 140kg and benching 75-80 >__<.


Bleh, I pretty much have the same problem. My left shoulder in particular is just shot to pieces. It's functional and all, but I always hit ceilings in my bench and shoulder press I never seem to be able to get past. Every time I think I'm getting there I'll pop a shoulder again and it's back to square one!

I'm sure a lot of it may be in my head, but my shoulder never feels stable once I pack on some decent weight.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
November 26 2010 06:19 GMT
#3682
On November 26 2010 14:45 RowdierBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2010 09:25 Energies wrote:
On November 26 2010 06:39 Liquid`Meat wrote:
I placed 2 orders at iherb, 4$ shipping for orders under $80 and a certain weight. Received both orders in about a week. Site rocks


I told someone at work about it, he did his entire family's order. $350 worth of stuff. Which would equate to something like $1200 worth if he bought it here in Australia.
-----------

Question.

Am I going to develop any physical imbalances as I progress more and more through SS, IF my bench and op are always significantly lower?

I fucked up my left rotator cuff about 12-18 months ago and it has never been the same.

I mean it's kind of ridiculous, I was at about 80kg bench and around 55kg op when I injured my shoulder. And since then, even though I have increased my squat and deadlift by about 40% my Bench and op are about 70kg/40kg.... Pretty soon I'm going to be squatting 140kg and benching 75-80 >__<.


Bleh, I pretty much have the same problem. My left shoulder in particular is just shot to pieces. It's functional and all, but I always hit ceilings in my bench and shoulder press I never seem to be able to get past. Every time I think I'm getting there I'll pop a shoulder again and it's back to square one!

I'm sure a lot of it may be in my head, but my shoulder never feels stable once I pack on some decent weight.


Likely need some horizontal pulling, and specific external rotator cuff work
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
November 26 2010 07:58 GMT
#3683
On November 26 2010 12:58 JeeJee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2010 12:21 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
On November 26 2010 11:07 grobo wrote:
Rosa, this is completely OT but i gotta ask, how much do you pay per month at your gym? when i lived in Japan the average gym was like 10,000yen per month, which was impossible for me at the time.


I get unlimited access to my gym for 11,500 yen a month.

Pricey, I know, but it has a weight room, a pool, an onsen, a shower room, free tanning area, and so on. It's a nice gym.

There are M-Fr access options for around 8,400 yen a month though. I work out Sunday so I can't do it >_<.


holy crap 11,500 yen is like C$135 >< japan is hella expensive. isn't it possible to get your own rack/bench/300lb weights for like $400? i haven't looked myself, but that's what i've heard..



My apartment is waaaaaaaaaaay too small to fit all of that equipment in. It only has one room and a kitchen.

If I end up building a house in the future, one of the things I want to put in is a decent sized basement with a concrete floor. I've always wanted to have my own decked lifting room with a power rack, a benching area, some dumbbells, and an olympic lifting section. Maybe it is a little bit ... well, not economical, but I'd be happy to pay the money if I'm living alone.
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
November 26 2010 14:13 GMT
#3684
i plan on having my own set of equipment for strength training in the future as well. i'll probably also get me a pair of gymnastics rings, always wanted to try doing push ups/dips on those. won't be happening anytime soon but still...
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
November 26 2010 14:25 GMT
#3685
On November 26 2010 23:13 unknown.sam wrote:
i plan on having my own set of equipment for strength training in the future as well. i'll probably also get me a pair of gymnastics rings, always wanted to try doing push ups/dips on those. won't be happening anytime soon but still...


It's nice to think about it .

Does anybody have any of the sources we've mentioned about grains before? I can't find the ones that really damn grains, and I'd like to read up on this subject.
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
November 26 2010 14:57 GMT
#3686
http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2010/09/19/paleo-diet-solution/

Kind of a long read but worth it.

Keep in mind mate... if you decide to go gluten free it means the only alcohol you will be able to drink is white spirits, wine and cider.

Is giving up beer and bourbon really worth being healthy and living forever? It's a decision I have to live with everyday.. until I crack.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
Koagel
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria167 Posts
November 26 2010 16:24 GMT
#3687
On November 26 2010 14:45 RowdierBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2010 09:25 Energies wrote:
On November 26 2010 06:39 Liquid`Meat wrote:
I placed 2 orders at iherb, 4$ shipping for orders under $80 and a certain weight. Received both orders in about a week. Site rocks


I told someone at work about it, he did his entire family's order. $350 worth of stuff. Which would equate to something like $1200 worth if he bought it here in Australia.
-----------

Question.

Am I going to develop any physical imbalances as I progress more and more through SS, IF my bench and op are always significantly lower?

I fucked up my left rotator cuff about 12-18 months ago and it has never been the same.

I mean it's kind of ridiculous, I was at about 80kg bench and around 55kg op when I injured my shoulder. And since then, even though I have increased my squat and deadlift by about 40% my Bench and op are about 70kg/40kg.... Pretty soon I'm going to be squatting 140kg and benching 75-80 >__<.


Bleh, I pretty much have the same problem. My left shoulder in particular is just shot to pieces. It's functional and all, but I always hit ceilings in my bench and shoulder press I never seem to be able to get past. Every time I think I'm getting there I'll pop a shoulder again and it's back to square one!

I'm sure a lot of it may be in my head, but my shoulder never feels stable once I pack on some decent weight.


The only time I hurt my shoulder benching was when I used one of these damn horizontal benching machines. Had to start at a position that was so low that I had to fiddle myself into it and then had to lift first before I could get myself into an ideal benching position.
I switched to free weights and pretty much never had problems anymore...
Maybe checking if you're using a correct form is enough to get rid of your problems?

I started doing squats and deadlifts lately. Squatting felt comfortable from second 1, I started with 60, 80, 100kg and did significantly more than 10 reps with each, then tried 120 and it didn't feel so good any more. I could still do 5 or more reps, but I felt like the form was suffering. I'll go with 100 until I'm used to the weight of the barbell on my shoulders. Feels good so far.

Deadlifts I'm less comfortable with, I'll get someone to check my form. Started with 80, 100, 130kg. Won't add more weight until I know I'm doing it right. I'd do some videos for you to evaluate, but I don't have a camera currently.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-26 16:47:38
November 26 2010 16:34 GMT
#3688
On November 26 2010 23:25 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2010 23:13 unknown.sam wrote:
i plan on having my own set of equipment for strength training in the future as well. i'll probably also get me a pair of gymnastics rings, always wanted to try doing push ups/dips on those. won't be happening anytime soon but still...


It's nice to think about it .

Does anybody have any of the sources we've mentioned about grains before? I can't find the ones that really damn grains, and I'd like to read up on this subject.


http://perfecthealthdiet.com/?cat=57
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/why-grains-are-unhealthy/
http://whole9life.com/2010/03/the-grain-manifesto/

Robb's book is also a good source as well...
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
November 26 2010 21:32 GMT
#3689
Today's workout:

Push Press: 47,5kg x 5, 55kg x 5 and 60kg x 10 (felt goooood!)
Dips: BW x 10, BW x 10, BW + 10kg x 10 and BW + 15kg x 10 (been a long time since I did those!)
Reverse hypers: 3 sets of BW x 15.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20010 Posts
November 26 2010 21:36 GMT
#3690
Here are my second attempts at snatch + clean



Trying to focus more on my second pull and really finishing. Obviously its still a work in progress
How much of a difference is there between the first and second pull, like should they be noticeably different sections of the lift or flow together?
Also, going into a full squat on snatch is SO incredibly hard. jesus christ.
On the bright side, i have never felt so manly and i was only doing 105 pounds lol. Oly lifting is ridiculous. Explosiveness here i come!
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
November 26 2010 23:01 GMT
#3691
your snatch grip is too narrow. Try widening it which will help your lockout.

try not to "donkey kick", as in that motion of kicking your feet up in the air. Its just wasted motion. If you watch the faster lifters, they barely get off the floor since they are more focused on getting under the bar. More time you are in the air = less time getting under the bar.
watch the feet:


The pull should just flow, dont worry too much about it. Also invest in some weightlifting shoes if u have the money.


watch these videos
http://www.californiastrength.com/olwete.html
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20010 Posts
November 26 2010 23:23 GMT
#3692
Yeah i'm not really trying to jump it just happens lol. I'll work on it.
I dont really want to spend 140 on weightlifting shoes I'll see if i can get some for christmas.

Any recommendations?
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
November 26 2010 23:28 GMT
#3693
On November 27 2010 08:23 decafchicken wrote:
Yeah i'm not really trying to jump it just happens lol. I'll work on it.
I dont really want to spend 140 on weightlifting shoes I'll see if i can get some for christmas.

Any recommendations?


http://www.muscledriverusa.com/pewldish.html

after a short look ~~$60
It really helps a lot, sneaker are no good for lifting.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20010 Posts
November 27 2010 00:55 GMT
#3694
God dammit eshlow, now I'm never going to eat grains again (besides morning egg sandwich and beer). I made a salad for dinner. A SALAD!
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
November 27 2010 01:00 GMT
#3695
On November 27 2010 09:55 decafchicken wrote:
God dammit eshlow, now I'm never going to eat grains again (besides morning egg sandwich and beer). I made a salad for dinner. A SALAD!


lol..... i occasionally eat them if I go out.... I just try not to have any with anything I like to eat.

The worst would be to get egg allergies!
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-27 01:02:52
November 27 2010 01:00 GMT
#3696
Decaf: How can you live with yourself?!

PS: nice pulls
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 27 2010 01:15 GMT
#3697
On November 27 2010 08:28 AoN.DimSum wrote:
It really helps a lot, sneaker are no good for lifting.


How do weightlifting shoes compare to just doing lifts barefoot?
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-27 03:05:11
November 27 2010 02:23 GMT
#3698
Decaf: would you be willing to spend $120 on weightlifting shoes?

If you order the Risto White Weightlifting shoe right now, and your size is anything other than 48 or I think like 39-41, they'll send you the new White Thunder ($140) ones for no additional charge because the other is on backorder until 2011.

Other good ones are apparently Rogue weightlifting shoes, which run for $115. People say avoid the Adidas and Do-Wins if you have anything but very narrow feet.

The ones Dimsum linked say they're discontinued, but are they still available?
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
November 27 2010 03:45 GMT
#3699
On November 26 2010 13:58 decafchicken wrote:
also didn't realize you were squatting almost 300 pounds energies, niiiice


Quiet achiever.

A friend was doing deadlifts today and asked me to check his form, had a 140kg(308) with straps and managed 3 reps, I gave him some pointers and quickly jumped in to show him, no straps no chalk 10 reps, put the weight down, "alright, now you try".

[image loading]

It is still going to be a couple of years before I get anywhere near you and shallow's numbers though ;(.


Also, thank fuck for iherb and 5000iu caps, I've been taking 20k a day to battle a cold, if I had to take 20 x 1000iu which are the only ones you can buy in Australia, I would have emptied the bottle by now.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
Slithe
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States985 Posts
November 27 2010 03:58 GMT
#3700
I was fighting a cold last week, so I took 10k IU per day. I don't know if it was the vitamin D, but I was able to hammer it out of my system in about 3 days. Pretty much skipped the runny nose phase too.
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