EPTTL Health and Fitness Initiative 2010 - Page 177
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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Energies
Australia3225 Posts
On November 17 2010 10:31 JeeJee wrote: ermm i'll look into why it's bad later (i'm not questioning that, i already said i trust you guys ^^) i'm questioning what to eat instead all of the sides there are just veggies. plain veggies. i eat a salad as my third side but i can't imagine your only side being a salad.. or veggies.. i think that's a little ridiculous to be honest  would be one hell of a salad.i suppose i could learn to love potatoes and only eat those as a side. potatoes are fine right? If you're not overweight or trying to lose fat, potatoes are fine. I'm working from home today so I had time to make lunch, I grilled 3 large pieces of fish, cut tons of carrots, celery, asparagus and other random greens, threw it into the frying pan with some salt/pepper, and chicken stock. Added the fish to a plate, some lemon juice, veggies on the side. I fell really freakin' full and satisfied right now. And it all tasted pretty amazing. I could make a lot of variations of what I just had with different meats and veggies, it doesn't have to be "salad". | ||
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Energies
Australia3225 Posts
On November 17 2010 14:02 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: also, http://articles.elitefts.com/articles/nutrition/logic-does-not-apply-part-2-breakfast/ ...wat. I'd love for this to be true.. I hate preparing breakfast. eshlow, ever heard of this before? I definitely need to do some research. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
i sure as hell know michael phelps does i suspect it doesn't matter much and it's mostly just about daily caloric intake | ||
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decafchicken
United States20168 Posts
On November 17 2010 12:36 AoN.DimSum wrote:+ Show Spoiler + I smoked this 115 and i bitched out on 120. fucking mad  at around 64kg bw Excuse me while i go find my jaw. It appears to have fallen off. You are a fucking animal. I like my breakfast Yum yum eggs. | ||
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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
here are misses, you can laugh at these if you want. poor technique on these. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
i was gonna say that i don't think im a position to laugh at those but yeah i actually did laugh at a couple of them they just looked hilarious | ||
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ModernAgeShaman
Norway484 Posts
On November 17 2010 05:10 eshlow wrote: Yes. Food digests over a period of 8 hours and take what it needs as it needs it... There's some myth running around that the body can only use X amount of protein at once so you have to eat more meals frequently to gain muscle. That's false. I have no clue where you're getting the 3 hours thing. Most of what I'm saying is based on the book called "Burn the fat, feed the muscle" by lifetime natural bodybuilder Tom Venuto. I like to follow bodybuilders advice when it comes... to well... everything. they are the biggest and leanest people on earth, and I don't know a single one of them that does not eat around the clock (6 meals a day usually). One even gets up in the middle of the night for a meal. Do you have a link to studies/experiments about the effect of 3 meals vs 5-6 a day? Or any research saying that food digests over a period of 8 hours? It seems pretty logically to me that if you did the extreme and ate one meal a day, you'd have awful results compared to if you spread that one meal out over 6 in the same day (both muscle gain and fat loss wise). | ||
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sJarl
Iceland1699 Posts
 Well done ! | ||
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funkie
Venezuela9377 Posts
My social skills are shitty at best. I forgot how to hit on girls. fuck my life. my looks are better than ever, and well, I just don't have the lingo to get my bitches up | ||
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RosaParksStoleMySeat
Japan926 Posts
On November 17 2010 09:05 eshlow wrote: vit D3 back in stock on iherb if anyone else wanted to order some: http://www.iherb.com/Healthy-Origins-Vitamin-D3-10-000-IU-360-Softgels/21298?at=0 LOW052 for $5 off. Thanks. I just ordered a bottle. Also, I got a pair of these Risto weightlifting shoes coming in the mail. I actually ordered the cheaper ones, but they were out of stock in my size so Risto agreed to send me the newer version for no extra cost. Score. My first day of fasting was ... well, not gonna lie: rough. I was without food for 26 hours, and my stomach was going crazy when I was teaching my last lessons of the night. I was dead dog tired at the end of my day, but to be fair, I spent the first ten hours of it at one job, and the next four hours of it at my next job. For now, I'm eating fried eggs, some tsukune (a type of meatball), and kimchi. Delicious. I'm gonna try to get in two days of fasting a week. Funkie: do we need to talk about your game? Dimsum: considering I can't even backsquat 120kg atm when I'm 95kg in bodyweight, I can't be too hard on you. One comment though ... you have brass balls to try that insanely weight so many times. | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On November 17 2010 22:52 funkie wrote: man, I need halp. My social skills are shitty at best. I forgot how to hit on girls. fuck my life. my looks are better than ever, and well, I just don't have the lingo to get my bitches upDo what the cool kids do: make girl help thread in blog | ||
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sJarl
Iceland1699 Posts
On November 17 2010 14:02 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: also, http://articles.elitefts.com/articles/nutrition/logic-does-not-apply-part-2-breakfast/ ...wat. wait, wat? | ||
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Ingenol
United States1328 Posts
On November 17 2010 17:46 Sinep wrote: Most of what I'm saying is based on the book called "Burn the fat, feed the muscle" by lifetime natural bodybuilder Tom Venuto. I like to follow bodybuilders advice when it comes... to well... everything. they are the biggest and leanest people on earth, and I don't know a single one of them that does not eat around the clock (6 meals a day usually). One even gets up in the middle of the night for a meal. Do you have a link to studies/experiments about the effect of 3 meals vs 5-6 a day? Or any research saying that food digests over a period of 8 hours? It seems pretty logically to me that if you did the extreme and ate one meal a day, you'd have awful results compared to if you spread that one meal out over 6 in the same day (both muscle gain and fat loss wise). Here's a good review referencing a lot of studies and explaining how it came to be that most people think more meals spread throughout the day is good for you. If you look around the site I think he even has a review of Venuto's book. Certainly a single meal a day is not a good way to live for a lot of reasons, but spreading 5-6 out over 18 hours of waking has no scientific basis behind it. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On November 18 2010 02:41 Ingenol wrote: Here's a good review referencing a lot of studies and explaining how it came to be that most people think more meals spread throughout the day is good for you. If you look around the site I think he even has a review of Venuto's book. Certainly a single meal a day is not a good way to live for a lot of reasons, but spreading 5-6 out over 18 hours of waking has no scientific basis behind it. Thankfully he cites the studies so I didn't have to look them up myself. That would've sucked. As for food digesting you can just google that. Often food stays in the stomach for anywhere from 0-2 maybe 3 hours because it doesn't release it all at once. that's probably where the myth generated from. But it takes between 2-8ish hours to run its way from stomach through small intestine to large and then beyond there that's when you eliminate waste. Think of it in terms of sleep. Full digestion takes about 8 or so hours hence why after eating and then going to sleep we have to take a bowel movement in the morning. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
i'm hoping eshlow can debunk this one | ||
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
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ModernAgeShaman
Norway484 Posts
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decafchicken
United States20168 Posts
On November 18 2010 05:39 Sinep wrote: I am really sick of eating 5 meals a day, it is a pain in the ass and a lot of work. I've read through a lot of the material on that website, and it seems to make sense. Since my goals are to be as big and as lean as I can be year round, this approach seems to be exactly that and outlines many of the same issues I have with more traditional methods. However, he does not seem to go much into detail... well about anything besides when to fast and when not to fast (but does not even say if you should do this every day, off days, or whatever). If my goals were to add muscle and stay lean, what would I do on an IF program? anybody able to fill in the blanks here? He even mentioned that he doesn't do curls or ab work and well... look at him, rofl. I don't need an education in healthy foods, but does anyone have enough experience with IF programs to fill in these blanks? thinking calories, workouts (throw in cardio?) and how often to fasting days. I dont know about IF, i've been eating 4-5 meals a day because i find i'm less hungry when i have a nice 500-800 calorie meal every few hours and it fits my schedule pretty well. But when i was getting lean and adding strength i was lifting heavy + HIIT 3 days a week with cardio(rugby practice) twice a week. Diet was definitely a decent deficit because i was pretty damn active 5-7 days a week and eating 4, maybe 5 meals a day. And yeah i don't do a lot of ab or bicep work and put 90% of the guys at my gym to shame when it comes to that department. Compound lifts + diet for the win. Did some powercleans today, did a few sets of doubles at 225 and it felt awesome. Then i realize dimsum can do 30 more pounds and weighs 60 pounds less than me and i felt like a little girl again Sent an e-mail to the local oly club though hopefully i can get some more info on them. | ||
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