EPTTL Health and Fitness Initiative 2010 - Page 156
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ModernAgeShaman
Norway484 Posts
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Malinor
Germany4721 Posts
Forefoot and midfoot striking are biomechanical advantageous (and natural way of running, barefoot running-studies clearly show this), I am not doubting that, I am no armchair-quarterback drinking my beer and yelling "lol science is wrong". The part I am questioning is mainly if it is necessary / adavantageous for everyone to switch technique. It's just a matter of fact that we are wearing shoes and (probably because of this) like 75% of people are running heel-to-toe. Now, there is often a best way to do things, but realistically, the majority of people would probably be very well off if they were running 30-40 minutes 3 times per week constantly. Do all these people really gain more by changing technique than they give up if it really is very uncomfortable to change? And obviously, some bodies adapt faster than others, some are more ressilient to change than others. I don't wanna expand on this now, since then it will be a huge ass post again (and I hadn't had time to check the links eshlow provided). Also, I believe each type of running has it's place. I mean, I don't have a hill in my room to check right now, but as far as i remember, running downhill I would like to heel-strike more rather than falling forward. And as I said before, I am actually experimenting a lot with different kinds of technique lately. Finally, here is a nice video explaining running technique (and pro-forefoot), for people who are interested in this kind of stuff. http://journal.crossfit.com/2010/08/barefoot-running.tpl | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
There's a study somewhere which I don't feel like pulling up now which focused on advanced distance runners over 6 or 8 weeks. They had about 20 of them switch to POSE running, and all of them saw decrements in performance (for obvious reasons because of running efficiency and using different muscles). Even WITH the decrements in performance IIRC 80% of them decied to stick with midfoot strike rather than go back to heel toe. Maybe it feels better/more natural after you get used to it? I don't know. I have always been a midfoot striker thankfully. All I know is that its generally better for overall health of the mucsles, ligaments, and joints in the lower body. Am I saying everyone should switch? Yes, I'd like that to happen. Is it realistic? No unfortunately...... so I'll do what I can to help those with injuries who persist in either. But it would be malicious of me if I didn't tell you that heel-toe strike has a greater propensity for orthopedic injury. | ||
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Necosarius
Sweden4042 Posts
 funkie  Hope you get better soon (but not too soon, I wanna catch up!) | ||
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RosaParksStoleMySeat
Japan926 Posts
On October 23 2010 22:16 Necosarius wrote: 100 kg squat!! :D 50 kg press and 50 kg clean, I'm still working on my form. Btw rosa, for how long did you do SS and have you moved on to the advanced novice program yet? funkie Hope you get better soon (but not too soon, I wanna catch up!)I think I was on Starting Strength for 14 weeks, including the one week I took off as a deload. I'm going to start the advanced novice program when I'm not sick. Right now I have a terrible chest cold that is making me feel like a bag of ass; I almost fainted on the train ride home today. It doesn't help that my girlfriend of three years basically told me she never wanted to see me again the other day, putting me in an insanely emo mood. Yeah, I don't think I could squat 80kg in my condition if I tried. | ||
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Energies
Australia3225 Posts
Go team! | ||
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RosaParksStoleMySeat
Japan926 Posts
On October 23 2010 23:16 Energies wrote: I'm pretty sure most people in this thread can squat 100kg+ which is pretty awesome because out of every 10 people I see at the gym, only 3-4 ever work legs and maybe 1 can squat 100kg+. Go team! Yeah, Starting Strength is awesome :D. Some people take years to get the strength results we get in a few months. Yeah, I'm a fanboy. At my gym I can't tell how much anybody squats because nobody squats right. It's all quarter squats, and sometimes, half squats. One dipshit loads like 600 pounds on the bar with the vagina pad, squats down 2", and then re-racks the weight. FFS man, stop wasting my time and go home. | ||
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theinvisiblePLER
United States110 Posts
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decafchicken
United States20010 Posts
On October 23 2010 22:16 Necosarius wrote: 100 kg squat!! :D 50 kg press and 50 kg clean, I'm still working on my form. Btw rosa, for how long did you do SS and have you moved on to the advanced novice program yet? funkie Hope you get better soon (but not too soon, I wanna catch up!)Mad props Here's to the next 100!Went 6-0 in our league for the third year in a row. Playoffs here we come. Ended up with 8 scores this year On October 24 2010 02:32 theinvisiblePLER wrote: Make fun of him all you want but that Diesel Wiesel guy is a pro powerlifter now Rofl that kids body is going to crap out on him in a year. Its unbelievable he can still stand. | ||
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funkie
Venezuela9374 Posts
On October 23 2010 22:16 Necosarius wrote: 100 kg squat!! :D 50 kg press and 50 kg clean, I'm still working on my form. Btw rosa, for how long did you do SS and have you moved on to the advanced novice program yet? funkie Hope you get better soon (but not too soon, I wanna catch up!)Bish, we have the squat .Yesterday, my adductor hurt so much that I had to do Squats with like 80kg or some shit Jesus christ I'm going to a doctor to see if this is just some resting injury or some shit. ;p. But yes, yesterday was more like a recovery session, since the day before (Thursday) there was this event at my gym where they went nutzo and gave like 2 hour session cardio, I wanted to die, and my legs were all sore today so yeh, maybe I did this to myself.! don't worry man!; we got this bitch DOWN!. I'll keep on doing SS until the end of november, and if December allows it, I'll do it, or advance to the Novice program. shall we meet there! :D | ||
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StimD
Norway738 Posts
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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:54 StimD wrote: Rotator cuff problems are a bitch.. fucked my RC benching sometime in June and have still not recovered from it. Been to 3 different physiotherapists, of whom only the last one had any competence. Seems like my supraspinatus is damaged, but I'm not sure if its an inflammation or tear, he couldnt tell.He told me that the injury was somewhere between 2-3 out of 10 on a seriousness scale. Everyday use is not problematic, but any pressing is painful (thus not doing any). Pulling is pain-free, but I'm kinda scared to put on too much weight. Been doing some self-massaging with a tennis ball, as well as some RC exercises, which relieves the almost constant, dull pain. If i try to press anything, I will feel a sharp pain in the shoulder. This pain also arises when I put my arm in certain positions, i.e. holding my neck with my hand and rotating the arm. Any experience/advice guys? Thinking about giving it a month before getting another session with the last physio. Rehab is more important than lifting. You don't value your health until you can't do the things you want to anymore. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On October 23 2010 23:09 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote: I think I was on Starting Strength for 14 weeks, including the one week I took off as a deload. I'm going to start the advanced novice program when I'm not sick. Right now I have a terrible chest cold that is making me feel like a bag of ass; I almost fainted on the train ride home today. It doesn't help that my girlfriend of three years basically told me she never wanted to see me again the other day, putting me in an insanely emo mood. Yeah, I don't think I could squat 80kg in my condition if I tried. Vitamin D it up man... I'm telling you guys it works. http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/10/a-closer-look-at-vitamin-d/ Anyone want to comment back on this already besides me who have taken at least 10,000 IU and the fast healing rates from colds and other upper respiratory infections? | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On October 24 2010 08:40 eshlow wrote: Vitamin D it up man... I'm telling you guys it works. http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/10/a-closer-look-at-vitamin-d/ Anyone want to comment back on this already besides me who have taken at least 10,000 IU and the fast healing rates from colds and other upper respiratory infections? I've been feeling sick since yesterday and started taking about 5000 IU a day, although after reading your article it doesn't seem like enough I need to look into buying a better supplement, | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
http://combattrainingsystems.com/?page_id=438 | ||
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decafchicken
United States20010 Posts
On October 24 2010 08:40 eshlow wrote: Vitamin D it up man... I'm telling you guys it works. http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/10/a-closer-look-at-vitamin-d/ Anyone want to comment back on this already besides me who have taken at least 10,000 IU and the fast healing rates from colds and other upper respiratory infections? I asked my parents to order me some and my mom was like "potency is too high!" and wants me to get blood work done to determine my current level before getting anything higher than 1000iu | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On October 24 2010 09:09 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: I've been feeling sick since yesterday and started taking about 5000 IU a day, although after reading your article it doesn't seem like enough I need to look into buying a better supplement,get the one from iherb... they ship pretty cheap internationally. On October 24 2010 09:22 decafchicken wrote: I asked my parents to order me some and my mom was like "potency is too high!" and wants me to get blood work done to determine my current level before getting anything higher than 1000iu you dont buy your own stuff? | ||
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formose
Canada27 Posts
got excited had to tell TL. now i can push people around in basketball. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20010 Posts
On October 24 2010 10:11 eshlow wrote: get the one from iherb... they ship pretty cheap internationally. you dont buy your own stuff? yeah i'll probably just order some anyways, but my parents will usually pick up vitamins, food, supplements, etc for me so i thought i'd ask | ||
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