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Slithe
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States985 Posts
September 08 2010 01:00 GMT
#2401
medical question:
I am occasionally feeling some mild discomfort on the outside part of my left forearm, around the place where the bone is. I usually feel it if I'm holding something, like the handle of a pan. The feeling may last a day or two, but it tends to go away if I leave it alone.

Could this be some mild tennis elbow, or maybe something else? Is there any exercise I can do to help prevent this, or is rest my best bet here?
NickC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
233 Posts
September 08 2010 02:09 GMT
#2402
My Goals

+ Show Spoiler +

NickC
Age: 25 || Height: 6'2" || Weight: unknown kg

Weight goals -- 84kg

Training goals --
Bench press 45kg -> 60kg
Bicep curl 12.5kg -> 15kg 3x5

Nutrition goals -- 3500-4000kcal with vitamins and up to 200g protein without lapse.

Starting Date: 08/09/10 || Goal Date: 18/09/10

Misc:
Taking squat very slowly. Not setting chinup or mpress goals until I'm more experienced. Can't do deadlift or cleans at any local gyms. Also, get a job.

Future goal ideas:
3x3 chinups.
20 minute cardio sessions to improve heart.
Don't. Fucking. Drink.

daz
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada643 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 02:17:04
September 08 2010 02:16 GMT
#2403
you can do deadlifts anywhere man, all you need is a barbell, plates, and ground

edit: same with power cleans, but you probably need someone to teach you those
Some eat to remember, some smash to forget. 2009msl.com
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
September 08 2010 02:54 GMT
#2404
pr!!!

110kg clean off block doubles! Was feeling good so i went heavy. I wanted to do singles for a max , but I clarked the bar at 115 so i went back down to 110 to attempt doubles. First try i hit the first clean but then i clarked the 2nd. Tried it again and I hit it. I'm terrible off the blocks but my form is getting better. I finished off workout with clean pulls, then did light clean shrugs. Also tried going back to the barbell to just work on form after workout. I got that from watching Chinese training videos. :D
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
September 08 2010 05:44 GMT
#2405
I feel like I'm hitting my limit.

Today I tried to do squats again but during warmups my IT band flared up again. The squat set might be easy but afterwards I have trouble walking 'cause something's cramping up.

I had to reset on overhead press.

And for chinups, there was this strange pain that shot through my shoulder (rotatorcuff?) down my tricep to my elbow. It still hurts. I can't really do the chinups like that.

*sigh*

I'm gonna get a deep tissue massage on Friday and hope it goes away...
NickC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
233 Posts
September 08 2010 05:49 GMT
#2406
have an extra day of rest, its easy to overwork yourself and itll just get worse and totally demotivating if you dont rest up
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
September 08 2010 11:19 GMT
#2407
On September 08 2010 05:17 NickC wrote:
ya, im very poor right now (lost my job, waiting for government support for 5+ weeks due to fuckup)

2x chocolate 88p
2x milk 2.20
= 1100+2400
= 3500kcal for £3.08
add some multivits, vits, cheap sausages, tuna, pate', this and that...im doing what I can given that im a shitty person in a shitty lifestyle right now

squat 40 (+5)
bench 45 (+2.5)
mpress 25 (+5)
chinup - again, sharp pain in left arm as soon as i tried one

Question:

I have a problem with my bench press. I lie in the centre of the bench with my back in natural arch. I use a wide grip and bring the bar to my nipples IIRC. I tense my body and glutes (ass?) and have legs to stablise properly. I do 3x5.

When I strain, eg last reps of a set, the centre-right side of my top back hurts. Its a really unpleasant pain/sensation and grows the more I strain during a set; I push through it to end the set then feel relieved when the pain almost immediately goes away.

I've tried making sure i'm in the centre of the bench, trying to shuffle myself around in slightly different positions, even tried un-arching my back a bit to get the pressure off it. It does feel like some part of my back is "unsupported" which causes the pain. Idk..

Does anyone relate to this problem?

Thanks


Was browsing through the old thread and came across eshlow's article here
http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/10/a-closer-look-at-vitamin-d/


It's probably either a rib or facet that's out of place, but I wouldn't put it past a maybe pulled muscle. Does it hurt when you're not exercising?

On September 08 2010 07:31 travis wrote:
eshlow are there any stretches i should be doing other than german hangs to help me build flexibility for hands-back manna? cuz i feel like flexibility might be a big problem for me there.


Nah, what kind of stretching are you doing for german hangs? If you're not getting more flexible try longer holds of upwards of 45-60s.

On September 08 2010 10:00 Slithe wrote:
medical question:
I am occasionally feeling some mild discomfort on the outside part of my left forearm, around the place where the bone is. I usually feel it if I'm holding something, like the handle of a pan. The feeling may last a day or two, but it tends to go away if I leave it alone.

Could this be some mild tennis elbow, or maybe something else? Is there any exercise I can do to help prevent this, or is rest my best bet here?


Does sound like some lateral epicondylitis... this should help:

http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/08/on-tendonitis/
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
September 08 2010 11:20 GMT
#2408
On September 08 2010 14:44 kainzero wrote:
I feel like I'm hitting my limit.

Today I tried to do squats again but during warmups my IT band flared up again. The squat set might be easy but afterwards I have trouble walking 'cause something's cramping up.

I had to reset on overhead press.

And for chinups, there was this strange pain that shot through my shoulder (rotatorcuff?) down my tricep to my elbow. It still hurts. I can't really do the chinups like that.

*sigh*

I'm gonna get a deep tissue massage on Friday and hope it goes away...


You probably need to get a foam roller and use it a lot...

And the shoulder pain sounds like possibly impinged radial nerve. I agree withthe massage... see if you can find an ART practitioner.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
NickC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
233 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 12:34:55
September 08 2010 12:28 GMT
#2409
its not a pulled muscle, it was a common occurance last year when i went to the gym too.

i DO have out of place ribs. the ribs on my right side stick out by half a centimetre at my sternum (front centre). my father and sister have the same thing. it used to REALLY suck when i was skinny but body hair and a bit of flesh has made it less noticeable visually.

it does cause a jamming of bones often: i have to stretch my chest by arching my back in order to "unclick" the bones (like some people click their knuckles, maybe). afaik there is no "pain" associated with it. i suspect i might have had problems when i was running, but i havent done running for so long i dont remember.

my dad had surjery to fix it back in the 70s but im not sure if it was successful, i think it wasnt for some reason. all i know for sure is massive obvious scarring all down his chest where they cut :/

this guy wants to stick everyone and their mother into a corset
http://www.staylace.com/medicaladvice/med_36.htm

heres a thread with people saying they have it to varying degrees
http://forum.purseblog.com/health-and-fitness/uneven-front-rib-cage-440990.html

pretty much what these guys say:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=838257&highlight=uneven ribs

i wouldnt have associated uneven ribs with back instability but maybe you're right. ill look for a thread that talks about that
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
September 08 2010 13:23 GMT
#2410
ljedrfasjfdasjflasdjoifawjlkdfjlksjdflkasdlfdas

Today I could only do 110kg squat for 4/3/2 and 58kg overhead press for 3/3/3. I managed to do 130kg deadlift for 1x5, but I downright failed on my squats and overheads. I have no idea how I'm supposed to manage an 88x5x3 bench this Friday -_-. My lifts have all gone to hell suddenly, and I have no idea why.

Maybe I had an off day. Maybe I was in too big of a hurry at the gym due to my night lessons. I'll repeat that squat weight on Friday. I have no idea how I'm going to break 135 on squat at this rate... I'm 25kgs off and already needing to reset .

Oh well. On a side note, I think changing my program to Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday would be a good option for me at this point considering I have a lot more time on these days.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 14:15:13
September 08 2010 14:08 GMT
#2411
On September 08 2010 11:54 AoN.DimSum wrote:
pr!!!

110kg clean off block doubles! Was feeling good so i went heavy. I wanted to do singles for a max , but I clarked the bar at 115 so i went back down to 110 to attempt doubles. First try i hit the first clean but then i clarked the 2nd. Tried it again and I hit it. I'm terrible off the blocks but my form is getting better. I finished off workout with clean pulls, then did light clean shrugs. Also tried going back to the barbell to just work on form after workout. I got that from watching Chinese training videos. :D

That's a good idea. I should try that out. I'm not doing any lifts as near as complex as some of the ones you're doing but its my first time really doing squats, deadlifts, press and power cleans. And I realize already since I'm adding like 10 lbs per squat as I add more weight I'm noticing my form is getting worse.

To update on my goal gained like 5 lbs last week. Happy about that and that was only drinking 8 glasses of 2% fat reduced milk per day. Hopefully the end of this week I'll gain access to whole milk and try gallon. Though sleep amount has been terrible as ever.

Something I noticed I've been having around like the middle/end of my workouts I sort of get a bit light headed. I've been wondering if it was maybe related to breathing when lifting since I usually don't focus on it.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
September 08 2010 14:21 GMT
#2412
Breath, I usually do it, when I'm on the "mid section of the exercise.

Say, I'm up, I get down on the squat, I get up again, breath, go down, and repeat.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 14:40:54
September 08 2010 14:38 GMT
#2413
On September 08 2010 11:54 AoN.DimSum wrote:
pr!!!

110kg clean off block doubles! Was feeling good so i went heavy. I wanted to do singles for a max , but I clarked the bar at 115 so i went back down to 110 to attempt doubles. First try i hit the first clean but then i clarked the 2nd. Tried it again and I hit it. I'm terrible off the blocks but my form is getting better. I finished off workout with clean pulls, then did light clean shrugs. Also tried going back to the barbell to just work on form after workout. I got that from watching Chinese training videos. :D

i'm feeling you dude, got a pr as well but for OHP. pretty amazing how i was able to finish the worksets today despite only getting 4 hours of sleep and being really stressed out at work. i'm sure it'll catch up to me sooner or later though.

edit: oh and for whatever reason my back/spine doesn't hurt anymore which is great. bench press here i come!
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
September 08 2010 15:06 GMT
#2414
On September 08 2010 23:38 unknown.sam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 11:54 AoN.DimSum wrote:
pr!!!

110kg clean off block doubles! Was feeling good so i went heavy. I wanted to do singles for a max , but I clarked the bar at 115 so i went back down to 110 to attempt doubles. First try i hit the first clean but then i clarked the 2nd. Tried it again and I hit it. I'm terrible off the blocks but my form is getting better. I finished off workout with clean pulls, then did light clean shrugs. Also tried going back to the barbell to just work on form after workout. I got that from watching Chinese training videos. :D

i'm feeling you dude, got a pr as well but for OHP. pretty amazing how i was able to finish the worksets today despite only getting 4 hours of sleep and being really stressed out at work. i'm sure it'll catch up to me sooner or later though.

edit: oh and for whatever reason my back/spine doesn't hurt anymore which is great. bench press here i come!


nice job! Hopefully your back pain never comes back :D



@ilikestarcraft
Yeah practice makes perfect. Always warmup with barbell for a couple sets. If you dont do it right during warmups, you will not do it right during your heavy sets.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
September 08 2010 16:11 GMT
#2415
On September 08 2010 20:19 eshlow wrote:
Nah, what kind of stretching are you doing for german hangs? If you're not getting more flexible try longer holds of upwards of 45-60s.


alright. ive only been stretching for like 20-25s
my grip tends to go out quickly from that position, also my bar slightly rotates because of my setup... it's hard to explain (it has a grip on the outside of it which is loose)

but ill try to hang for longer for sure thanks
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
September 08 2010 18:39 GMT
#2416
great job ret!!! I saw the article :D
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20025 Posts
September 08 2010 18:51 GMT
#2417
On September 09 2010 03:39 AoN.DimSum wrote:
great job ret!!! I saw the article :D


Looks like a new fuckin man. Awesome ret.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
September 08 2010 22:42 GMT
#2418
Yeah, woha! Nice.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
September 09 2010 00:30 GMT
#2419
On September 08 2010 21:28 NickC wrote:
its not a pulled muscle, it was a common occurance last year when i went to the gym too.

i DO have out of place ribs. the ribs on my right side stick out by half a centimetre at my sternum (front centre). my father and sister have the same thing. it used to REALLY suck when i was skinny but body hair and a bit of flesh has made it less noticeable visually.

it does cause a jamming of bones often: i have to stretch my chest by arching my back in order to "unclick" the bones (like some people click their knuckles, maybe). afaik there is no "pain" associated with it. i suspect i might have had problems when i was running, but i havent done running for so long i dont remember.

my dad had surjery to fix it back in the 70s but im not sure if it was successful, i think it wasnt for some reason. all i know for sure is massive obvious scarring all down his chest where they cut :/

this guy wants to stick everyone and their mother into a corset
http://www.staylace.com/medicaladvice/med_36.htm

heres a thread with people saying they have it to varying degrees
http://forum.purseblog.com/health-and-fitness/uneven-front-rib-cage-440990.html

pretty much what these guys say:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=838257&highlight=uneven ribs

i wouldnt have associated uneven ribs with back instability but maybe you're right. ill look for a thread that talks about that


I've seen some physical therapy stuff about how to reset that if it's somethign that just occurred and popped out. But if it's congenital it may not be able to be fixed.. hmm.

It may be a good idea to talk to a physical therapist about it. There's some strain counterstrain techniques that might work for it.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
September 09 2010 00:57 GMT
#2420
YEAHHHHHHH

MAN I LOVE SS!.

It's fucking amazing, what it gives you, and how you set yourself to reach that goal, and you do it, following the program, and just being serious about it!.

Squat, Power Cleans and Press today, did them all good!. Struggled a bit on the last set of Power Clean (12kg(on each side)+bar weight). It felt amazing!. .

My legs feel a whole lot more powerful!
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
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