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HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
March 20 2015 13:25 GMT
#26061
Roaming with another support, getting 2 kills on the mid lane, SF fed.

Guess what? Game not counted due to server issues.
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
March 20 2015 14:54 GMT
#26062
On March 20 2015 05:07 Varth wrote:
I'm just shitty at PA apparently, I just can't figure out how to close games or something. I have an average of 600 gpm and a 2.73 kda yet I have a 37% win rate. Frustrating as hell because I like to think of myself of reasonably good at all chars that aren't meepo/chen/enchant yet I just suck or something with PA who I've put a fair amount of time into.


I used to have a horrible time with PA but been doing a hell of a lot better over the past 6-9 months or so.

I know this is the QQ thread not an advice thread but if you're going the "farming" build with a Battlefury then stop doing that. It hardly ever seems worth doing in pubs, frankly I've never seen it work unless someone outright feeds her. Everyone expects it but it makes her effectively a second-rate Antimage.

Instead build Phase/Aquila/Drums and just start killing everything. Early ring of Basilius will take care of mana needs, then brown boots into phase into Aquila and start on drums. When you have all three you have attack damage, movement speed and mana regen plus a nice little pile of general stats. Everything you need to start fighting and critting everything to death. From that point you can start farming heroes into getting BKB/Basher.

I'm making a lot of assumptions about how you're playing her here, so if you're already doing the above then I'm out of ideas I'm afraid. X-D
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
126Q;A1
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden517 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-20 16:02:50
March 20 2015 15:09 GMT
#26063
I love when two people rage abandon for no reason early on and we still almost win. The russians man what can I say.

edit: another game another retarded monkey russian :D i love "eu west".

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Narw
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland884 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-20 15:48:45
March 20 2015 15:48 GMT
#26064
Unranked games are somewhat... special. In special way of special.
Varth
Profile Joined August 2010
United States426 Posts
March 20 2015 17:21 GMT
#26065
On March 20 2015 23:54 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 05:07 Varth wrote:
I'm just shitty at PA apparently, I just can't figure out how to close games or something. I have an average of 600 gpm and a 2.73 kda yet I have a 37% win rate. Frustrating as hell because I like to think of myself of reasonably good at all chars that aren't meepo/chen/enchant yet I just suck or something with PA who I've put a fair amount of time into.


I used to have a horrible time with PA but been doing a hell of a lot better over the past 6-9 months or so.

I know this is the QQ thread not an advice thread but if you're going the "farming" build with a Battlefury then stop doing that. It hardly ever seems worth doing in pubs, frankly I've never seen it work unless someone outright feeds her. Everyone expects it but it makes her effectively a second-rate Antimage.

Instead build Phase/Aquila/Drums and just start killing everything. Early ring of Basilius will take care of mana needs, then brown boots into phase into Aquila and start on drums. When you have all three you have attack damage, movement speed and mana regen plus a nice little pile of general stats. Everything you need to start fighting and critting everything to death. From that point you can start farming heroes into getting BKB/Basher.

I'm making a lot of assumptions about how you're playing her here, so if you're already doing the above then I'm out of ideas I'm afraid. X-D


You are correct that I have gone battlefury on occasion. My main question is when do you stop farming and start ganking? lvl 9 for max blink + dagger?
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-20 18:58:03
March 20 2015 18:52 GMT
#26066
On March 21 2015 02:21 Varth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 23:54 -Celestial- wrote:
On March 20 2015 05:07 Varth wrote:
I'm just shitty at PA apparently, I just can't figure out how to close games or something. I have an average of 600 gpm and a 2.73 kda yet I have a 37% win rate. Frustrating as hell because I like to think of myself of reasonably good at all chars that aren't meepo/chen/enchant yet I just suck or something with PA who I've put a fair amount of time into.


I used to have a horrible time with PA but been doing a hell of a lot better over the past 6-9 months or so.

I know this is the QQ thread not an advice thread but if you're going the "farming" build with a Battlefury then stop doing that. It hardly ever seems worth doing in pubs, frankly I've never seen it work unless someone outright feeds her. Everyone expects it but it makes her effectively a second-rate Antimage.

Instead build Phase/Aquila/Drums and just start killing everything. Early ring of Basilius will take care of mana needs, then brown boots into phase into Aquila and start on drums. When you have all three you have attack damage, movement speed and mana regen plus a nice little pile of general stats. Everything you need to start fighting and critting everything to death. From that point you can start farming heroes into getting BKB/Basher.

I'm making a lot of assumptions about how you're playing her here, so if you're already doing the above then I'm out of ideas I'm afraid. X-D


You are correct that I have gone battlefury on occasion. My main question is when do you stop farming and start ganking? lvl 9 for max blink + dagger?


I start killing the moment the opportunity arises. Absolutely should have Basilius before 6 for the mana regen which allows you to dagger spam with the crit. At 6 I just start throwing the daggers out time after time against opponents. People tend to misjudge how much health they have and how much damage a crit dagger can do so suddenly they're down to like 100-150 life points and you jump them with blink and they explode. Its even easier if you have a somewhat attentive support with a stun hanging around.

In general I'm ganking with Phase + Aquila plus level 6; I usually build my stout into a PMS as well so there's that too. Maybe even before those milestones if there's a good opening; I'd find 9 to be way, way too late honestly.

Don't never farm, but always, always be looking for the slightest opportunity for a kill. And actively go looking for them when a few items are up. I used to farm up a Battlefury and try to play the farming game too until I realised its pretty suboptimal; PA isn't Antimage and shouldn't try to be Antimage.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-20 19:13:35
March 20 2015 19:12 GMT
#26067
On March 21 2015 02:21 Varth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 23:54 -Celestial- wrote:
On March 20 2015 05:07 Varth wrote:
I'm just shitty at PA apparently, I just can't figure out how to close games or something. I have an average of 600 gpm and a 2.73 kda yet I have a 37% win rate. Frustrating as hell because I like to think of myself of reasonably good at all chars that aren't meepo/chen/enchant yet I just suck or something with PA who I've put a fair amount of time into.


I used to have a horrible time with PA but been doing a hell of a lot better over the past 6-9 months or so.

I know this is the QQ thread not an advice thread but if you're going the "farming" build with a Battlefury then stop doing that. It hardly ever seems worth doing in pubs, frankly I've never seen it work unless someone outright feeds her. Everyone expects it but it makes her effectively a second-rate Antimage.

Instead build Phase/Aquila/Drums and just start killing everything. Early ring of Basilius will take care of mana needs, then brown boots into phase into Aquila and start on drums. When you have all three you have attack damage, movement speed and mana regen plus a nice little pile of general stats. Everything you need to start fighting and critting everything to death. From that point you can start farming heroes into getting BKB/Basher.

I'm making a lot of assumptions about how you're playing her here, so if you're already doing the above then I'm out of ideas I'm afraid. X-D


You are correct that I have gone battlefury on occasion. My main question is when do you stop farming and start ganking? lvl 9 for max blink + dagger?

there's lots of games, probably more games than not, where you'll want max blur before max blink; the 3->4 upgrade is the biggest jump in EHP for autos and overall it's not often that you're even able to blink twice in an early skirmish

helm of the dominator is also really good for early fighting
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Nomzter
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden2802 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-21 01:03:50
March 20 2015 23:20 GMT
#26068
tfw you drop to 3,6k i hate this patch so much
qadassa
Profile Joined March 2015
United States61 Posts
March 21 2015 03:46 GMT
#26069
When an Enchantress, who is a Jungler, is also expected to gank doesn't do it, and let's you die 1v3 in lane 😢
Only the unknown frightens men. But once a man has faced the unknown, that terror becomes the known
ahw
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1099 Posts
March 21 2015 07:25 GMT
#26070
queue into aui stack

get rekt
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
March 21 2015 07:53 GMT
#26071
Somehow my Dotabuff ranking on DP has gone up while my KDA and winrate have gone down (to <4 and <.66 respectively)

Now if only it wasn't the universe's deepest mystery what my team should do when I turn on my ult.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
bdonballer
Profile Joined October 2014
United States408 Posts
March 21 2015 08:51 GMT
#26072
Zone out offlane so hard that our anti mage gets a 11 min battlefury. Take all tier 1 towers by 15 min. Crushing the other team so hard.

POOR NETWORK CONDITIONS DETECTED. GAME IS SAFE TO LEAVE.

SERIOUSLY!!!
I carry hard!
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-21 09:35:44
March 21 2015 09:28 GMT
#26073
OK Valve needs to SERIOUSLY EMPHASIZE the concept of proper courier use in the tutorial and tips screens and shit because oh my fucking god

Going bottle rush against a sniper on Lina. I've bought three branches. No one will give me tangos...whatever, I'll be able to get bottle with slave ez pz. Oh we're going to fight over the rune. Me, Centaur, and Axe...lol ez. Except Axe, who is furthest out front, just fucks off after we've committed and I've skilled LSA. So yeah we lose our Centaur AND I have LSA first skill. Whatever, I get my bottle money only slightly delayed. But lol the courier is already headed out to safelane. HA HA NO PROBLEM. OK I get my bottle I can recover this lane disadvantage but I need to get my boots and crow one time to catch up....oh wait our offlaner is sending himself a SINGLE RING OF REGEN. When I override this thinking maybe he was only HALF dumbass and will realize that yes indeed I might need the courier more than he does he fights me over it. By the time I get my shit I can't make it to the rune. Then I get rotated on by two heroes who were missing I guess??? Anyway so Sniper can now freely bully me in lane. Short story we lost.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
teapot
Profile Joined October 2007
United Kingdom266 Posts
March 21 2015 11:17 GMT
#26074
I'm on a massive losing streak.

I believe the hidden pool is real.

MMR is a joke.

The report system is broken.

Fuck this.

FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-21 11:38:22
March 21 2015 11:34 GMT
#26075
LPQ again baby! Sorry, not gonna stick around hearing shit from my teammates about my farm on AM when I had to farm against 2-3 laners with an Ogre Magi as my only support because Doom decided he was too fucking good to offlane.

I'd rather LPQ.

[e] Oh yeah and my super useful Ogre Magi lane support was also taking CS from me.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
March 21 2015 12:40 GMT
#26076
First LPQ: Roll Earth Spirit OH NO, REROLL

Techies

And when you reroll in this mode you start with 525g

Just great all around.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
March 21 2015 13:46 GMT
#26077
On March 21 2015 21:40 FHDH wrote:
First LPQ: Roll Earth Spirit OH NO, REROLL

Techies

And when you reroll in this mode you start with 525g

Just great all around.


Just feed your LPQ games until you leave most people will start feeding with you or feed before you so its not like you miss out on much given how shit all random is in a pool full of ragers / abaondoners
teapot
Profile Joined October 2007
United Kingdom266 Posts
March 21 2015 14:13 GMT
#26078
Some people are actually low-priority try-hards (just how stupid are these people?) and will report you for feeding. At least on EU West. I feed anyway.
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
March 21 2015 14:31 GMT
#26079
On March 21 2015 23:13 teapot wrote:
Some people are actually low-priority try-hards (just how stupid are these people?) and will report you for feeding. At least on EU West. I feed anyway.

Almost everyone in my LPQ games has been trying to win.

It's terrible.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Nomzter
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden2802 Posts
March 21 2015 15:26 GMT
#26080
im so happy that void exists so mentally disabled people can with at dota too
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