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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
June 16 2014 12:12 GMT
#1501
looks great! i like that you changed the name to "Radiance Core" instead of just "situational" too
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-18 21:33:04
June 18 2014 21:32 GMT
#1502
Statistics coming up. Expecting 23.8 million subscriptions. Lifestealer is about to peak as the highest subscribed Hero Build in Dota 2 at almost 900,000 unique subscribers.

For Broodmother, I'm thinking of changing her build to be more about pushing than ganking and disable:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=128757681
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
June 18 2014 21:41 GMT
#1503
? that is the pushing build. Okay, orchid being core isn't 100% necessary but generally it's important for brood to make sure that the enemy can't send a single hero to her lane and deal with her. She needs to be drawing 2+ heroes including at least one core or else she isn't doing her job (I mean, ideally they ignore you and you rax them but assuming they notice you...)

Orchid and BKB make her difficult to gank, completely mana independant and able to solo kill the vast majority of heroes that might show up to contest her push.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 18 2014 21:47 GMT
#1504
On June 19 2014 06:41 Sn0_Man wrote:
? that is the pushing build. Okay, orchid being core isn't 100% necessary but generally it's important for brood to make sure that the enemy can't send a single hero to her lane and deal with her. She needs to be drawing 2+ heroes including at least one core or else she isn't doing her job (I mean, ideally they ignore you and you rax them but assuming they notice you...)

Orchid and BKB make her difficult to gank, completely mana independant and able to solo kill the vast majority of heroes that might show up to contest her push.


I prefer the Situational Items where you just push, push, push and avoid all conflict. With Orchid and BKB, I feel the obligation to take advantage of it and fight enemies.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
June 18 2014 23:21 GMT
#1505
then they just dump some irrelevant hero in ur lane who just spams out waves for free farm and beat the rest of ur team 5v4
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 19 2014 07:28 GMT
#1506
On June 19 2014 08:21 Sn0_Man wrote:
then they just dump some irrelevant hero in ur lane who just spams out waves for free farm and beat the rest of ur team 5v4


Guess she'll stay as is.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
June 19 2014 12:44 GMT
#1507
On June 19 2014 06:47 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 06:41 Sn0_Man wrote:
? that is the pushing build. Okay, orchid being core isn't 100% necessary but generally it's important for brood to make sure that the enemy can't send a single hero to her lane and deal with her. She needs to be drawing 2+ heroes including at least one core or else she isn't doing her job (I mean, ideally they ignore you and you rax them but assuming they notice you...)

Orchid and BKB make her difficult to gank, completely mana independant and able to solo kill the vast majority of heroes that might show up to contest her push.


I prefer the Situational Items where you just push, push, push and avoid all conflict. With Orchid and BKB, I feel the obligation to take advantage of it and fight enemies.

I'm curious what items you have in mind for a push push push build.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 19 2014 13:05 GMT
#1508
On June 19 2014 21:44 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 06:47 Torte de Lini wrote:
On June 19 2014 06:41 Sn0_Man wrote:
? that is the pushing build. Okay, orchid being core isn't 100% necessary but generally it's important for brood to make sure that the enemy can't send a single hero to her lane and deal with her. She needs to be drawing 2+ heroes including at least one core or else she isn't doing her job (I mean, ideally they ignore you and you rax them but assuming they notice you...)

Orchid and BKB make her difficult to gank, completely mana independant and able to solo kill the vast majority of heroes that might show up to contest her push.


I prefer the Situational Items where you just push, push, push and avoid all conflict. With Orchid and BKB, I feel the obligation to take advantage of it and fight enemies.

I'm curious what items you have in mind for a push push push build.


I was pretty much referring to the situational items.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-20 14:46:00
June 20 2014 14:25 GMT
#1509
+ Show Spoiler [Feb 4] +
After ~15 days (Jan. 17 to Feb. 4), we have risen from 7,154,041 to 8,708,486 combined subscribers

A difference of 1,554,445

Average growth of subscribers is 77,066.25 from 65,036.74


Top 10 least popular guides (top being the least popular):
  • Dazzle
  • Faceless Void (recently updated)
  • Lion (recently updated)
  • Phantom Lancer
  • Juggernaut (recently updated)
  • Meepo (needs verification)
  • Tiny [Middle]
  • Invoker (sorely outdated)
  • Ember Spirit
  • Legion Commander [Lane]


Top 10 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  • Naix
  • Nyx Assassin
  • Skywrath Mage (needs verification)
  • Leshrac
  • Bane
  • Ursa
  • Medusa
  • Venomancer (needs verification)
  • Ancient Apparition
  • Broodmother (recently updated)
+ Show Spoiler [Feb 22] +
After ~15 days (Feb. 5 to Feb. 22), we have risen from 8,708,486 to 10,197,41 combined subscribers

A difference of 1,488,955
Average growth of subscribers is 90,242.84 from 77,066.25


Top 10 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  • Lone Druid [Jungle]
  • Slark [Middle]
  • Meepo
  • Faceless Void
  • Dazzle
  • Juggernaut
  • Phantom Lancer
  • Tiny [Middle]
  • Invoker
  • Legion Commander [Lane]


Top 10 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  • Naix
  • Nyx Assassin
  • Skywrath Mage
  • Leshrac
  • Bane
  • Ursa
  • Medusa
  • Venomancer
  • Pugna
  • Broodmother


It has officially been 1 year since the guide system release (and when I started this project)!
+ Show Spoiler [Mar 10] +
After ~15 days (Feb. 22 to Mar. 10), we have risen from 10,197,451 to 11,694,519 combined subscribers

A difference of 1,496,978
Average growth of subscribers is 99,953.15 from 90,242.93


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  • Juggernaut (1,219)
  • Phantom Lancer (1,058)
  • Tiny (Middle) (910)
  • Invoker (762)
  • Legion Commander (Lane) (510)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  • Naix (Jungle)
  • Nyx Assassin
  • Skywrath Mage
  • Leshrac
  • Medusa


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:
  • Meepo (1,164 -> 28,208)
  • Ember Spirit (2,358 -> 12,039)
  • Spirit Breaker (4,981 -> 16,666)
  • Pudge (5,900 -> 13,496)
  • Lina (6,407 -> 20,838)
  • Lion (14,324 -> 34,266)
  • Slark (Lane) (15,396 -> 30,426)
  • Weaver (25,342 -> 45,731)
  • Clinkz (31,168 -> 61,833)
  • Mirana (34,910 -> 68,183)
  • Luna (42,572 -> 80,934)
  • Shadow Fiend (79,311 -> 101,547)
  • Terrorblade (86,050 -> 122,345)


Latest Released Guides:
  • Naix (Lane)
  • Ancient Apparition (Lane)
  • Shadow Shaman (Middle)
  • Beastmaster (Middle)





Associated Reddit Topic - March 10th
+ Show Spoiler [Mar 24] +
After ~15 days (Mar. 10 to Mar. 25), we have risen from 11,694,519 to 13,025,681 combined subscribers

A difference of 1,331,162
Average growth of subscribers is 111,330.607 from 99,953.15


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  • Juggernaut (1,294)
  • Phantom Lancer (1,112)
  • Tiny (Middle) (941)
  • Invoker (770)
  • Legion Commander (Lane) (579)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  • Naix (Jungle)
  • Nyx Assassin
  • Skywrath Mage
  • Leshrac
  • Medusa


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:
  • Lifestealer (Jungle) (737,338 -> 757,516)
  • Bounty Hunter (166,830 -> 190,690)
  • Luna (80,934 -> 111,375)
  • Meepo (28,208 -> 52,003)
  • Ember Spirit (12,039 -> 36,130)
  • Lion (34,266 -> 52,853)


Latest Released Guides:
  • Naix (Lane)
  • Ancient Apparition (Lane)
  • Shadow Shaman (Middle)
  • Beastmaster (Middle)





Associated Reddit Topic - March 24th
+ Show Spoiler [Apr 9] +
After ~15 days (Mar. 25 to Apr. 9), we have risen from 13,025,681 to 14,640,324 combined subscribers

A difference of 1,614,643
Average growth of subscribers is 125,130.97 from 111,330.61


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  • Phantom Lancer (1,374)
  • Slark (Middle) (1,361)
  • Tiny (Middle) (965)
  • Invoker (790)
  • Legion Commander (Lane) (626)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  • Naix (Jungle)
  • Nyx Assassin
  • Skywrath Mage
  • Leshrac
  • Medusa


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:
  • Phantom Assassin (9,821 -> 22,968)
  • Queen of Pain (15,279 -> 32,355)
  • Faceless Void (5,516 -> 36,628)
  • Ember Spirit (36,130 -> 73,227)
  • Weaver (63,090 -> 89,479)
  • Clinkz (84,839 -> 111,540)
  • Mirana (96,509 -> 127,826)


Latest Released Guides:
  • Naix (Lane)
  • Ancient Apparition (Lane)
  • Shadow Shaman (Middle)
  • Beastmaster (Middle)





Associated Reddit Topic - April 9th
+ Show Spoiler [Apr 24] +
After ~15 days (Apr. 9 to Apr. 24), we have risen from 14,640,324 to 16,154,754 combined subscribers

A difference of 1,514,430
Average growth of subscribers is 134,754.24 from 125,130.97


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  • Lone Druid (Jungle) (1,520)
  • Slark (Middle) (1,411)
  • Tiny (Middle) (1001)
  • Invoker (800)
  • Legion Commander (Lane) (673)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  • Naix (Jungle)
  • Nyx Assassin
  • Skywrath Mage
  • Leshrac
  • Medusa


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:
  • Luna (146,691 -> 181,478)
  • Zeus (84,722 -> 100,020)
  • Faceless Void (36,628 -> 60,153)
  • Ember Spirit (Lane) (73,227 -> 101,397)
  • Sven (204,354 -> 236,078)


Newly Released Guides:
  • Nyx Assassin (Lane)
  • Axe (Jungle)
  • Ember Spirit (Middle)
  • Shadow Shaman (Middle)
  • Beastmaster (Middle)





Associated Reddit Topic - April 24th
+ Show Spoiler [May 8] +
After ~15 days (Apr. 24 to May 8), we have risen from 16,154,754 to 17,852,025 combined subscribers

A difference of 1,670,590
Average growth of subscribers is 147,537.40 from 134,754.24


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  • Legion Commander (Lane) (759)
  • Invoker (846)
  • Tiny (Middle) (1047)
  • Slark (Middle) (1,487)
  • Longe Druid (Jungle) (1,610)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  • Naix (Jungle)
  • Nyx Assassin
  • Skywrath Mage
  • Leshrac
  • Medusa


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:
  • Phantom Lancer (3,724 -> 14,651)
  • Dazzle (4,133 -> 15,879)
  • Juggernaut (35,334 -> 61,666)
  • Huksar (59,476 -> 81,357)
  • Lion (92,907 -> 110,668)


Newly Released Guides:
  • Nyx Assassin (Lane)
  • Axe (Jungle)
  • Ember Spirit (Middle)
  • Shadow Shaman (Middle)
  • Ursa (Lane)





Associated Reddit Topic - May 8th
+ Show Spoiler [May 22] +
After ~15 days (May 8 to May 22), we have risen from 17,852,025 to 19,767,290 combined subscribers

A difference of 1,915,265
Average growth of subscribers is 162,026.97 from 147,537.40


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  • Ursa (Lane) (289)
  • Beast Master (Middle) (207)
  • Nyx Assassin (Lane) (201)
  • Shadow Shaman (Middle) (169)
  • Ember Spirit (136)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  • Naix (Jungle)
  • Nyx Assassin
  • Skywrath Mage
  • Leshrac
  • Medusa


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:
  • Phantom Lancer (14,651 -> 50,104)
  • Dazzle (15,879 -> 35,024)
  • Faceless Void (85,845 -> 116,488)
  • Mirana (187,849 -> 222,947)
  • Luna (212,349 -> 243,569)


Newly Released Guides:
  • Axe (Jungle)
  • Elder Titan (Lane)





Associated Reddit Topic - May 22nd
+ Show Spoiler [June 6] +
After ~15 days (May 22 to June 6), we have risen from 19,767,290 to 21,802,930 combined subscribers

A difference of 2,035,640
Average growth of subscribers is 178,712.54 from 162,026.97


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  • Nyx Assassin (Lane) (294)
  • Beastmaster (Middle) (238)
  • Shadow Shaman (Middle) (209)
  • Axe (Jungle) (197)
  • Ember Spirit (Middle) (164)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  • Naix (Jungle)
  • Nyx Assassin
  • Skywrath Mage
  • Leshrac
  • Necrophos


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:
  • Ancient Apparition (Lane) (448 -> 2,948)
  • Lone Druid (Jungle) (1,717 -> 7,519)
  • Tinker (81,361 -> 102,509)
  • Huskar (105,637 -> 133,977)
  • Sand King (285,320 -> 318,806)


Newly Released Guides:
  • Elder Titan (Lane)





Associated Reddit Topic - June 6th


After ~15 days (June 6 to June 20), we have risen from 21,802,930 to 23,956,248 combined subscribers

A difference of 2,153,318
Average growth of subscribers is 193,195.55 from 178,712.54


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  • Beastmaster (Middle) (269)
  • Shadow Shaman (Middle) (227)
  • Axe (Jungle) (218)
  • Ember Spirit (Middle) (182)
  • Tusk (Middle) (106)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  • Naix (Jungle)
  • Nyx Assassin
  • Skywrath Mage
  • Leshrac
  • Necrophos


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:
  • Ancient Apparition (Lane) (2,948 -> 28,665)
  • Lone Druid (Jungle) (7,519 -> 28,934)
  • Enchantress (75,926 -> 90,296)
  • Phantom Lancer (88,180 -> 125,948)
  • Juggernaut (126,707 -> 163,994)
  • Sand King (318,806 -> 356,684)


Newly Released Guides:
  • Elder Titan (Lane)
  • Naga Siren (Middle)
  • Tusk (Middle)





Associated Reddit Topic - June 20th
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 20 2014 14:46 GMT
#1510
Key facts:

There is, at minimum (and definitely much more), approximately 1 million unique subscribers to these guides; that's about 12.5% of the total unique user base for this month.

There is an average of 200,000 subscriptions per guide with 100 guides out of 124 having at least 100,000 unique subscribers.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
June 20 2014 14:48 GMT
#1511
If I actually used guides I'd probably use urs (and then flame you every day for some trivial thing I wanted changed)
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-20 15:08:15
June 20 2014 14:52 GMT
#1512
On June 20 2014 23:48 Sn0_Man wrote:
If I actually used guides I'd probably use urs (and then flame you every day for some trivial thing I wanted changed)


That's warming to hear. Some guides are becoming a bit outdated while some need those "trivial things" changed. At this point, it's about maintaining them (like the Intro. pages for each one need to be rewritten, adding wands/starter items for the right heroes), etc.

We're doing good work though, I'm really happy this is turning out good. At this current point in my life, this is something keeping me together.

So thank you again
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
June 20 2014 21:36 GMT
#1513
I don't think the skywrath item build is optimal but it's probably the easiest way for pubs who have never played him to do decently well :T
:)
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-21 01:18:43
June 21 2014 01:18 GMT
#1514
I've been meaning to ask foreeeeeeever. That pic at the top of the OP. Does that function really exist in the game? Like I could pick a hero, navigate to your guide, and have it automatically set the items I should buy? And can I view skill builds too? If that function actually exists, how do you do it? Cause as it stands now, I just alt tab out and look at shit. It's super annoying.
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GreyBrid
Profile Joined January 2014
31 Posts
June 21 2014 04:26 GMT
#1515
how do you expect me to tell you why your build is terrible if you blocked me on steam
Eriksen
Profile Joined December 2012
Micronesia720 Posts
June 21 2014 10:40 GMT
#1516
On June 21 2014 13:26 GreyBrid wrote:
how do you expect me to tell you why your build is terrible if you blocked me on steam


Lel, try to say it in a proper language and use nice words :D

Out of that, I cannot find your Ursa's laning build. Any tips/infos to find them in-game without alt-tabbing?
Whether it has ended with a happy ending or sad, I never was an important thing to you.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
June 21 2014 10:45 GMT
#1517
Out of all the items in your Skywrath Mage guide, Veil is probably the one I would get the least. I'd remove it from the guide altogether as all the other items are stronger in pretty much any situation.
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lilopuppy
Profile Joined August 2012
Philippines542 Posts
June 21 2014 11:47 GMT
#1518
How much money do you get per upvote? You must be pretty stacked by now since most of your guides are in the 90s and number 1.
All the way to TI322!
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-21 12:14:34
June 21 2014 12:02 GMT
#1519
On June 21 2014 06:36 synapse wrote:
I don't think the skywrath item build is optimal but it's probably the easiest way for pubs who have never played him to do decently well :T


I'm open to your suggestions.

On June 21 2014 13:26 GreyBrid wrote:
how do you expect me to tell you why your build is terrible if you blocked me on steam


Because telling me directly that it is "terrible" without any constructive criticism is not contributory at all.

On June 21 2014 10:18 Ayaz2810 wrote:
I've been meaning to ask foreeeeeeever. That pic at the top of the OP. Does that function really exist in the game? Like I could pick a hero, navigate to your guide, and have it automatically set the items I should buy? And can I view skill builds too? If that function actually exists, how do you do it? Cause as it stands now, I just alt tab out and look at shit. It's super annoying.


Yes, it really exists. Just follow the guide/book icon at the top left and press the arrow where you will find a variety of builds to choose from. Additionally, you can just use the index on the front page and it will take you directly to the website page for the guide where you can subscribe and it will load up in-game.

On June 21 2014 19:40 Eriksen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 13:26 GreyBrid wrote:
how do you expect me to tell you why your build is terrible if you blocked me on steam


Lel, try to say it in a proper language and use nice words :D

Out of that, I cannot find your Ursa's laning build. Any tips/infos to find them in-game without alt-tabbing?


It needs more ratings perhaps, but it's on the front page; by subscribing here: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=254615876

It will load in-game automatically. Favouriting it also let's you bookmark it in case you want to try another build but want to keep this one as reference (which you can switch to any time in-game after favouriting)

On June 21 2014 19:45 Firebolt145 wrote:
Out of all the items in your Skywrath Mage guide, Veil is probably the one I would get the least. I'd remove it from the guide altogether as all the other items are stronger in pretty much any situation.


Done. Thanks! I'm hoping to add a bit more to his guide though as it feels a bit bare.

On June 21 2014 20:47 lilopuppy wrote:
How much money do you get per upvote? You must be pretty stacked by now since most of your guides are in the 90s and number 1.


We work by karma currency, which is non-exchangeable (:
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 21 2014 12:14 GMT
#1520
Skywrath Mage
Removed Veil of Discord
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