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Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-24 11:32:59
November 24 2014 11:29 GMT
#2481
Im not sure how much detail you should go into with these guides. I mean you could put typical good-to-have items like ghost and force as situationl for 30 or 50 heroes or something. But the thing that stood out for me was: Warlock maxing FB? Im pretty sure every time pros try that hero out its for upheaval since all its recent buffs. And even if its not straight up lvl 7 upheaval max its certainly SW over FB. FB is cute and can be annoying to face during laning, so 1 or maybe max 2 points in it for laning could be argued is good (i'd argue against it but my opinion, so whatever) but I see absolutely no reason to max FB by 7. The hero doesnt do anything after laning until like lvl 13 or so with that build. Granted theres no "standard" build since very few plays the hero and almost never seen in competitive games, but where exactly is this build coming from?

Refresher should be somewhere in there on Necro too btw. Playing Necro lategame without refresher (and Agh) is honestly just wrong.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8930 Posts
November 24 2014 13:49 GMT
#2482
On November 24 2014 20:29 Kreb wrote:
Im not sure how much detail you should go into with these guides. I mean you could put typical good-to-have items like ghost and force as situationl for 30 or 50 heroes or something. But the thing that stood out for me was: Warlock maxing FB? Im pretty sure every time pros try that hero out its for upheaval since all its recent buffs. And even if its not straight up lvl 7 upheaval max its certainly SW over FB. FB is cute and can be annoying to face during laning, so 1 or maybe max 2 points in it for laning could be argued is good (i'd argue against it but my opinion, so whatever) but I see absolutely no reason to max FB by 7. The hero doesnt do anything after laning until like lvl 13 or so with that build. Granted theres no "standard" build since very few plays the hero and almost never seen in competitive games, but where exactly is this build coming from?

Refresher should be somewhere in there on Necro too btw. Playing Necro lategame without refresher (and Agh) is honestly just wrong.

fb isnt a laning skill
its a teamfight skill. lvl 7 fatal bonds + ulti + whatever else your team has = a lot of fking damage.
people seem to favour upheaval more these days but fatal bonds is still legit. shadow word is probably the worst spell warlock has. absolutely dont need any more than 2 lvls in it during the laning stage
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-25 03:02:18
November 25 2014 02:59 GMT
#2483
It's pretty strong in lane if you get a 2v2 or 1v1 against a melee core, which happens a fair bit in pubs.

I think bonds>upheaval unless you have a ton of other teamfight you can depend on. The main problem with bonds is that lots of warlocks refuse to ult before using bonds, which leads to them walking in close and getting blown up.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-25 03:04:54
November 25 2014 03:03 GMT
#2484
some people are unware that upheaval has 1050 more range than fatal bonds

fatal bonds is way better in lane but thats rarely very relevant for support warlock.
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Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-25 07:32:30
November 25 2014 07:27 GMT
#2485
Eh, I dunno, it's like 90% dual lanes at the level these guides are targeting. Bonds helps a lot in a 2v2, so I feel like it is relevant.

But sure, upheaval is good too. So long as he doesn't max shadow word I think either is fine.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-26 16:30:13
November 26 2014 15:40 GMT
#2486
Oracle (Middle)
New Skill Build: W E Q E E R E Q Q Q R W W W
Removed Urn of Shadows
Moved Force Staff to Core Items
Created: "Core - Ganker" Tab
Moved Orchid of Malevolence to "Core - Ganker" Tab
Moved Dagon to "Core - Ganker" Tab

Oracle (Lane)
Added Courier/Wards to Starting Items

Sladar
Removed: "Core - Carry" Tab
Moved Heart of Terrasque to Extension Items
Moved Assault Cuirass to Extension Items
Moved Desolator to Extension Items
Moved Medallion of Courage to Situational Items
Moved Monkey King Bar to Extension Items
Blink is moved to before Power Treads

Vengeful Spirit
Added Shiva's Guard to Extension Items
Moved Urn of Shadows to Core Items
Added Ghost Scepter to Situational Items
Added Vladmir's Offering to Situational Items

Clinkz
Added Black King Bar to Core Items

Legion Commander (Jungle/Middle)
Legion Commander (Jungle/Middle)
Removed Assault Cuirass
Added Mjollnir to Extension Items

Tidehunter
Removed Crimson Guard
Added Mekansm (back) to Situational Items

Terrorblade
Removed Magic Wand
Moved Manta Style to Core Items
Added Quelling Blade to Early Game
Moved Orb of Venom to Situational Items
Moved Monkey King Bar to Extension Items

Warlock (Lane)
New Skill Build: W Q Q E Q R Q E E E R W W W (1. Fatal Bonds 2. Upheaval 3. Shadow Word)

Warlock (Middle)
New Skill Build: W Q Q W Q R Q E E E R E W W (1. Fatal Bonds 2. Upheaval 3. Shadow Word)
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-26 17:15:00
November 26 2014 17:14 GMT
#2487
I will leaving for Denmark in about 3 days, so I'm a little short on time/dedication for the coming week or two. I think I can still do the stats.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 01 2014 09:09 GMT
#2488
I'm Denmark, stats are a day late and I won't be able to publish it here until I get my Pc back, sorry.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-01 10:05:32
December 01 2014 09:29 GMT
#2489
Oracle has a good start:

Lane: 237,149
Middle: 83,822

Total: 320,971

Tehies on his first release: 242,682

*it's important to note that their release dates differ in terms of number days between when the stats check-up was and when they were released (so Oracle may have more or less days to accumulate subscribers than Techies, overall; strong start for both, clinching top spots for both guides [Lane being #1 and Middle being literally #2].




Grand Total: 47,459,560 (up from 44,774,270)
Difference: 2,685,290 (last month was 2,452,699)
Dota 2 Unique Pop. 9,863,009
Lifestealer: 1,114,382 (11.29%) [previously 11.60%]
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-01 19:24:14
December 01 2014 10:47 GMT
#2490
+ Show Spoiler [Oct 30] +
From our initial start in February 2013 to October 30, we have risen to 3,704,581 combined subscribers

A difference of 628,547

Average growth of subscribers is 29,019.19
+ Show Spoiler [Nov 15] +
After ~15 days (Oct. 30 to Nov. 15), we have risen from 3,076,034 to 3,704,581 combined subscribers

A difference of 628,547

Average Growth of subscribers is 34,948.88
Growth Percentage is 20.43%
+ Show Spoiler [Dec 9] +
After ~15 days (Nov. 15 to Dec. 9), we have risen from 3,704,581 to 4,744,465 combined subscribers

A difference of 1,039,884

Average Growth of subscribers is 43,930.23
Growth Percentage is 28.07%
+ Show Spoiler [Dec 25] +
After ~15 days (Dec. 9 to Dec. 25), we have risen from 4,744,465 to 5,567,569 combined subscribers

A difference of 823,104

Average Growth of subscribers is 50,614.26
Growth Percentage is 17.35%
+ Show Spoiler [Jan 17] +
After ~15 days (Dec. 25 to Jan. 17), we have risen from 5,567,569 to 7,154,041 combined subscribers

A difference of 1,586,472

Average Growth of subscribers is 65,036.74
Growth Percentage is 28.49%
+ Show Spoiler [Feb 4] +
After ~15 days (Jan. 17 to Feb. 4), we have risen from 7,154,041 to 8,708,486 combined subscribers

A difference of 1,554,445

Average Growth of subscribers is 77,066.25
Growth Percentage is 21.73%


Top 10 least popular guides (top being the least popular):
  • Dazzle
  • Faceless Void (recently updated)
  • Lion (recently updated)
  • Phantom Lancer
  • Juggernaut (recently updated)
  • Meepo (needs verification)
  • Tiny [Middle]
  • Invoker (sorely outdated)
  • Ember Spirit
  • Legion Commander [Lane]


Top 10 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  • Naix
  • Nyx Assassin
  • Skywrath Mage (needs verification)
  • Leshrac
  • Bane
  • Ursa
  • Medusa
  • Venomancer (needs verification)
  • Ancient Apparition
  • Broodmother (recently updated)
+ Show Spoiler [Feb 22] +
After ~15 days (Feb. 5 to Feb. 22), we have risen from 8,708,486 to 10,197,41 combined subscribers

A difference of 1,488,955
Average Growth of subscribers is 90,242.84
Growth Percentage is 17.10%


Top 10 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  • Lone Druid [Jungle]
  • Slark [Middle]
  • Meepo
  • Faceless Void
  • Dazzle
  • Juggernaut
  • Phantom Lancer
  • Tiny [Middle]
  • Invoker
  • Legion Commander [Lane]


Top 10 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  • Naix
  • Nyx Assassin
  • Skywrath Mage
  • Leshrac
  • Bane
  • Ursa
  • Medusa
  • Venomancer
  • Pugna
  • Broodmother


It has officially been 1 year since the guide system release (and when I started this project)!
+ Show Spoiler [Mar 10] +
After ~15 days (Feb. 22 to Mar. 10), we have risen from 10,197,451 to 11,694,519 combined subscribers

A difference of 1,496,978
Average Growth of subscribers is 99,953.15
Growth Percentage is 14.68%


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  • Juggernaut (1,219)
  • Phantom Lancer (1,058)
  • Tiny (Middle) (910)
  • Invoker (762)
  • Legion Commander (Lane) (510)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  • Naix (Jungle)
  • Nyx Assassin
  • Skywrath Mage
  • Leshrac
  • Medusa


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:
  • Meepo (1,164 -> 28,208)
  • Ember Spirit (2,358 -> 12,039)
  • Spirit Breaker (4,981 -> 16,666)
  • Pudge (5,900 -> 13,496)
  • Lina (6,407 -> 20,838)
  • Lion (14,324 -> 34,266)
  • Slark (Lane) (15,396 -> 30,426)
  • Weaver (25,342 -> 45,731)
  • Clinkz (31,168 -> 61,833)
  • Mirana (34,910 -> 68,183)
  • Luna (42,572 -> 80,934)
  • Shadow Fiend (79,311 -> 101,547)
  • Terrorblade (86,050 -> 122,345)


Latest Released Guides:
  • Naix (Lane)
  • Ancient Apparition (Lane)
  • Shadow Shaman (Middle)
  • Beastmaster (Middle)





Associated Reddit Topic - March 10th
+ Show Spoiler [Mar 24] +
After ~15 days (Mar. 10 to Mar. 25), we have risen from 11,694,519 to 13,025,681 combined subscribers

A difference of 1,331,162
Average Growth of subscribers is 111,330.607
Growth Percentage is 11.38%


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  • Juggernaut (1,294)
  • Phantom Lancer (1,112)
  • Tiny (Middle) (941)
  • Invoker (770)
  • Legion Commander (Lane) (579)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  • Naix (Jungle)
  • Nyx Assassin
  • Skywrath Mage
  • Leshrac
  • Medusa


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:
  • Lifestealer (Jungle) (737,338 -> 757,516)
  • Bounty Hunter (166,830 -> 190,690)
  • Luna (80,934 -> 111,375)
  • Meepo (28,208 -> 52,003)
  • Ember Spirit (12,039 -> 36,130)
  • Lion (34,266 -> 52,853)


Latest Released Guides:
  • Naix (Lane)
  • Ancient Apparition (Lane)
  • Shadow Shaman (Middle)
  • Beastmaster (Middle)





Associated Reddit Topic - March 24th
+ Show Spoiler [Apr 9] +
After ~15 days (Mar. 25 to Apr. 9), we have risen from 13,025,681 to 14,640,324 combined subscribers

A difference of 1,614,643
Average Growth of subscribers is 125,130.97
Growth Percentage is 12.40%


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  • Phantom Lancer (1,374)
  • Slark (Middle) (1,361)
  • Tiny (Middle) (965)
  • Invoker (790)
  • Legion Commander (Lane) (626)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  • Naix (Jungle)
  • Nyx Assassin
  • Skywrath Mage
  • Leshrac
  • Medusa


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:
  • Phantom Assassin (9,821 -> 22,968)
  • Queen of Pain (15,279 -> 32,355)
  • Faceless Void (5,516 -> 36,628)
  • Ember Spirit (36,130 -> 73,227)
  • Weaver (63,090 -> 89,479)
  • Clinkz (84,839 -> 111,540)
  • Mirana (96,509 -> 127,826)


Latest Released Guides:
  • Naix (Lane)
  • Ancient Apparition (Lane)
  • Shadow Shaman (Middle)
  • Beastmaster (Middle)





Associated Reddit Topic - April 9th
+ Show Spoiler [Apr 24] +
After ~15 days (Apr. 9 to Apr. 24), we have risen from 14,640,324 to 16,154,754 combined subscribers

A difference of 1,514,430
Average Growth of subscribers is 134,754.24
Growth Percentage is 10.53%


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  • Lone Druid (Jungle) (1,520)
  • Slark (Middle) (1,411)
  • Tiny (Middle) (1001)
  • Invoker (800)
  • Legion Commander (Lane) (673)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  • Naix (Jungle)
  • Nyx Assassin
  • Skywrath Mage
  • Leshrac
  • Medusa


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:
  • Luna (146,691 -> 181,478)
  • Zeus (84,722 -> 100,020)
  • Faceless Void (36,628 -> 60,153)
  • Ember Spirit (Lane) (73,227 -> 101,397)
  • Sven (204,354 -> 236,078)


Newly Released Guides:
  • Nyx Assassin (Lane)
  • Axe (Jungle)
  • Ember Spirit (Middle)
  • Shadow Shaman (Middle)
  • Beastmaster (Middle)





Associated Reddit Topic - April 24th
+ Show Spoiler [May 8] +
After ~15 days (Apr. 24 to May 8), we have risen from 16,154,754 to 17,852,025 combined subscribers

A difference of 1,670,590
Average Growth of subscribers is 147,537.40
Growth Percentage is 10.32%


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  • Legion Commander (Lane) (759)
  • Invoker (846)
  • Tiny (Middle) (1047)
  • Slark (Middle) (1,487)
  • Longe Druid (Jungle) (1,610)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  • Naix (Jungle)
  • Nyx Assassin
  • Skywrath Mage
  • Leshrac
  • Medusa


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:
  • Phantom Lancer (3,724 -> 14,651)
  • Dazzle (4,133 -> 15,879)
  • Juggernaut (35,334 -> 61,666)
  • Huksar (59,476 -> 81,357)
  • Lion (92,907 -> 110,668)


Newly Released Guides:
  • Nyx Assassin (Lane)
  • Axe (Jungle)
  • Ember Spirit (Middle)
  • Shadow Shaman (Middle)
  • Ursa (Lane)





Associated Reddit Topic - May 8th
+ Show Spoiler [May 22] +
After ~15 days (May 8 to May 22), we have risen from 17,852,025 to 19,767,290 combined subscribers

A difference of 1,915,265
Average growth of subscribers is 162,026.97
Growth Percentage is 10.73%


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  • Ursa (Lane) (289)
  • Beast Master (Middle) (207)
  • Nyx Assassin (Lane) (201)
  • Shadow Shaman (Middle) (169)
  • Ember Spirit (136)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  • Naix (Jungle)
  • Nyx Assassin
  • Skywrath Mage
  • Leshrac
  • Medusa


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:
  • Phantom Lancer (14,651 -> 50,104)
  • Dazzle (15,879 -> 35,024)
  • Faceless Void (85,845 -> 116,488)
  • Mirana (187,849 -> 222,947)
  • Luna (212,349 -> 243,569)


Newly Released Guides:
  • Axe (Jungle)
  • Elder Titan (Lane)





Associated Reddit Topic - May 22nd
+ Show Spoiler [June 6] +
After ~15 days (May 22 to June 6), we have risen from 19,767,290 to 21,802,930 combined subscribers

A difference of 2,035,640
Average Growth of subscribers is 178,712.54
Growth Percentage is 9.93%


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  • Nyx Assassin (Lane) (294)
  • Beastmaster (Middle) (238)
  • Shadow Shaman (Middle) (209)
  • Axe (Jungle) (197)
  • Ember Spirit (Middle) (164)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  • Naix (Jungle)
  • Nyx Assassin
  • Skywrath Mage
  • Leshrac
  • Necrophos


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:
  • Ancient Apparition (Lane) (448 -> 2,948)
  • Lone Druid (Jungle) (1,717 -> 7,519)
  • Tinker (81,361 -> 102,509)
  • Huskar (105,637 -> 133,977)
  • Sand King (285,320 -> 318,806)


Newly Released Guides:
  • Elder Titan (Lane)





Associated Reddit Topic - June 6th
+ Show Spoiler [June 20] +
After ~15 days (June 6 to June 20), we have risen from 21,802,930 to 23,956,248 combined subscribers

A difference of 2,153,318
Average Growth of subscribers is 193,195.55
Growth Percentage is 9.88%


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  • Beastmaster (Middle) (269)
  • Shadow Shaman (Middle) (227)
  • Axe (Jungle) (218)
  • Ember Spirit (Middle) (182)
  • Tusk (Middle) (106)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  • Naix (Jungle)
  • Nyx Assassin
  • Skywrath Mage
  • Leshrac
  • Necrophos


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:
  • Ancient Apparition (Lane) (2,948 -> 28,665)
  • Lone Druid (Jungle) (7,519 -> 28,934)
  • Enchantress (75,926 -> 90,296)
  • Phantom Lancer (88,180 -> 125,948)
  • Juggernaut (126,707 -> 163,994)
  • Sand King (318,806 -> 356,684)


Newly Released Guides:
  • Elder Titan (Lane)
  • Naga Siren (Middle)
  • Tusk (Middle)





Associated Reddit Topic - June 20th
+ Show Spoiler [July 4] +
After ~15 days (June 20 to July 4th), we have risen from 23,956,248 to 25,861,337 combined subscriptions

A difference of 1,905,089
Average Growth of subscribers is 208,559.17
Growth Percentage is 7.95%


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  • Shadow Shaman (Middle) (257)
  • Axe (Jungle) (254)
  • Ember Spirit (Middle) (206)
  • Tusk (Middle) (136)
  • Elder Titan (Lane) (132)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  • Naix (Jungle)
  • Nyx Assassin
  • Skywrath Mage
  • Leshrac
  • Necrophos


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:
  • Ancient Apparition (Lane) (28,665 -> 54,426)
  • Lone Druid (Jungle) (28,934 -> 50,379)
  • Enigma (143,931 -> 165,573)
  • Slark (Lane) (148,178 -> 174,693)
  • Juggernaut (163,994 -> 197,295)


Newly Released Guides:
  • Naga Siren (Middle)





Associated Reddit Topic - July 4th
+ Show Spoiler [July 19] +
After ~15 days (July 4th to July 19th), we have risen from 25,861,337 to 27,755,144 combined subscriptions

A difference of 1,893,767
Average Growth of subscribers is 218,544.44
Growth Percentage is 7.32%


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  1. Shadow Shaman (Middle) (286)
  2. Axe (Jungle) (286)
  3. Ember Spirit (Middle) (242)
  4. Elder Titan (Lane) (188)
  5. Tusk (Middle) (177)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  1. Naix (Jungle)
  2. Nyx Assassin
  3. Skywrath Mage
  4. Necrophos (previously rank 5)
  5. Leshrac


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:
  • Legion Commander (Middle) (2,377 -> 12,226)
  • Lone Druid (Jungle) (50,379 -> 68,885)
  • Ancient Apparition (Lane) (54,426 -> 81,821)
  • Tinker (140,421 -> 159,260)
  • Enigma (165,573 -> 197,295)


Newly Released Guides:
  • Lycan (Lane)
  • Skywrath Mage (Lane)
  • Dragon Knight (Middle)





Associated Reddit Topic - July 19th
+ Show Spoiler [August 3] +
After ~15 days (July 19th to August 3rd), we have risen from 27,755,144 to 30,003,730 combined subscriptions

A difference of 2,248,586
Average Growth of subscribers is 236,249.84
Growth Percentage is 8.10%


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  1. Ember Spirit (Middle) (338)
  2. Elder Titan (Lane) (269)
  3. Tusk (Middle) (238)
  4. Skywrath Mage (Lane) (206)
  5. Naga Siren (Middle) (168)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  1. Naix (Jungle)
  2. Nyx Assassin (Middle)
  3. Skywrath Mage (Middle)
  4. Necrophos
  5. Sven (previously rank 7)


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:
  • Terrorblade (361,318 -> 395,937)
  • Silencer (274,906 -> 293,250)
  • Shadow Shaman (Lane) (274,525 -> 310,355)
  • Sven (446,554 -> 482,174)





Associated Reddit Topic - August 3rd
+ Show Spoiler [August 18] +
After ~15 days (August 3rd to August 18th), we have risen from 30,003,730 to 32,005,885 combined subscriptions

A difference of 2,002,155
Average Growth of subscribers is 248,107.64
Growth Percentage is 6.67%


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  1. Shadow Shaman (Middle) (402)
  2. Elder Titan (Lane) (369)
  3. Skywrath Mage (Lane) (345)
  4. Tusk (Middle) (307)
  5. Naga Siren (Middle) (222)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  1. Naix (Jungle)
  2. Nyx Assassin (Middle)
  3. Necrophos (previously rank 4)
  4. Skywrath Mage (Middle)
  5. Sven


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:
  • Ancient Apparition (Lane) (114,862 -> 143,205)
  • Enigma (216,943 -> 240,711)
  • Brewmaster (190,123 -> 218,765)
  • Juggernaut (266,505 -> 301,914)


Newly Released Guides:
  • Weaver (Lane)
  • Kunkka (Middle)





Associated Reddit Topic - August 18th
+ Show Spoiler [September 3] +
After ~15 days (August 18th to September 3rd), we have risen from 32,005,885 to 34,023,240 combined subscriptions

A difference of 2,0173,55
Average Growth of subscribers is 263,746.05
Growth Percentage is 6.30%


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  1. Shadow Shaman (Middle) (426)
  2. Tusk (Middle) (338)
  3. Naga Siren (Middle) (251)
  4. Weaver (Lane) (122)
  5. Kunkka (Middle) (104)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  1. Naix (Jungle) Celebrating 1 Million Unique Subscriptions!
  2. Nyx Assassin (Middle)
  3. Necrophos (previously rank 4)
  4. Sven (previously rank 5)
  5. Skywrath Mage (Middle)


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:
  • Ancient Apparition (Lane) (143,205 -> 170,414)
  • Enigma (240,711 -> 261,923)
  • Brewmaster (218,765 -> 245,407)
  • Phantom Lancer (246,265 -> 275,824)





Associated Reddit Topic - September 3rd
+ Show Spoiler [September 18] +
After ~15 days (September 3rd to September 18th), we have risen from 34,023,240 to 36,208,516 combined subscriptions

A difference of 2,785,276
Average Growth of subscribers is 278,527.05
Growth Percentage is 6.42%


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  1. Shadow Shaman (Middle) (474)
  2. Tusk (Middle) (404)
  3. Naga Siren (Middle) (305)
  4. Weaver (Lane) (206)
  5. Kunkka (Middle) (166)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  1. Naix (Jungle)
  2. Nyx Assassin (Middle)
  3. Necrophos
  4. Sven
  5. Skywrath Mage (Middle)


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:
  • Centaur Warrunner (3,178 -> 31,228)
  • Dazzle (161,925 -> 181,725)
  • Ancient Apparition (Lane) (170,414 -> 195,312)
  • Phantom Lancer (246,265 -> 275,824)


Newly Released Guides:
  • Techies




Associated Reddit Topic - September 18th
+ Show Spoiler [October 3] +
After ~15 days (September 18th to October 3rd), we have risen from 36,208,516 to 38,248,753 combined subscriptions

A difference of 2,040,237
Average Growth of subscribers is 277,164.88
Growth Percentage is 5.63%


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  1. Shadow Shaman (Middle) (514)
  2. Tusk (Middle) (470)
  3. Naga Siren (Middle) (386)
  4. Weaver (Lane) (374)
  5. Kunkka (Middle) (260)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  1. Naix (Jungle)
  2. Nyx Assassin (Middle)
  3. Sven (previously rank 4)
  4. Necrophos
  5. Sand King (previously rank 6)


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:
  • Tiny (Middle) (5,671 -> 16,411)
  • Centaur Warrunner (31,228 -> 60,166)
  • Bloodseeker (Middle) (199,401 -> 242,837)
  • Riki (201,668 -> 263,324)
  • Techies (242,682 -> 285,042)
  • Phantom Lancer (Lane) (302,052 -> 381,248)
  • Clinkz (388,227 -> 411,995)


Newly Released Guides:
  • Phantom Lancer (Middle)
  • Leshrac (Middle)
  • Sniper (Middle)
  • Bloodseeker (Jungle)
  • Bloodseeker (Lane)
  • Warlock (Middle)
  • Earth Spirit (Lane)
  • Gyrocopter (Middle)




Associated Reddit Topic - October 3rd
+ Show Spoiler [October 16] +
After ~15 days (October 3rd to October 16th), we have risen from 38,248,753 to 40,296,925 combined subscriptions

A difference of 2,048.172
Average Growth of subscribers is 292,006.70
Growth Percentage is 5.35%


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  1. Shadow Shaman (Middle) (555)
  2. Tusk (Middle) (518)
  3. Weaver (Lane) (507)
  4. Naga Siren (Middle) (441)
  5. Kunkka (Middle) (340)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  1. Naix (Jungle)
  2. Nyx Assassin (Middle)
  3. Sven
  4. Necrophos
  5. Sand King (previously rank 6)


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:
  • Bloodseeker (Middle) (242,837 -> 273,366)
  • Riki (263,324 -> 317,947)
  • Ember Spirit (Lane) (1,422 -> 32,109)
  • Phantom Lancer (Lane) (381,248 -> 435,899)


Newly Released Guides:
  • Phantom Lancer (Middle)
  • Leshrac (Middle)
  • Sniper (Middle)
  • Bloodseeker (Jungle)
  • Bloodseeker (Lane)
  • Warlock (Middle)
  • Earth Spirit (Lane)
  • Gyrocopter (Middle)




Associated Reddit Topic - October 16th
+ Show Spoiler [October 30] +
After ~15 days (October 16th to October 30th), we have risen from 40,296,925 to 42,321,571 combined subscriptions

A difference of 2,024,646
Average Growth of subscribers is 304,471.73
Growth Percentage is 5.02%


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  1. Bloodseeker (Lane) (299)
  2. Leshrac (Middle) (283)
  3. Bloodseeker (Jungle) (263)
  4. Gyrocopter (Middle) (180)
  5. Warlock (Middle) (141)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  1. Naix (Jungle)
  2. Nyx Assassin (Middle)
  3. Sven
  4. Necrophos
  5. Sand King


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:

  • Phantom Lancer (Lane) (435,899 -> 471,545)
  • Riki (317,947 -> 365,690)
  • Ember Spirit (Lane) (32,109 -> 66,406)
  • Earth Spirit (Lane) (5,669 -> 28,112)


Newly Released Guides:
  • Troll Warlord (Middle)




Associated Reddit Topic - October 30th
+ Show Spoiler [November 15] +
After ~15 days (October 30th to November 15th), we have risen from 42,321,571 to 44,774,270 combined subscriptions

A difference of 2,452,699
Average Growth of subscribers is 319,816.21
Growth Percentage is 5.80%


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  1. Phantom Lancer (Middle) (370)
  2. Leshrac (Middle) (353)
  3. Bloodseeker (Jungle) (299)
  4. Gyrocopter (Middle) (220)
  5. Warlock (Middle) (166)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  1. Naix (Jungle)
  2. Nyx Assassin (Middle)
  3. Sven
  4. Necrophos
  5. Sand King


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:

  • Viper (402,404 -> 431,784)
  • Riki (365,690 -> 424,757)
  • Phantom Lancer (320,700 -> 361,667)
  • Spirit Breaker (313,693 -> 340,357)


Newly Released Guides:
  • Silencer (Middle)
  • Troll Warlord (Middle)




Associated Reddit Topic - N/A


After ~15 days (November 15th to December 1st), we have risen from 44,774,270 to 47,459,560 combined subscriptions

A difference of 2,685,290
Average Growth of subscribers is 334,222.25
Growth Percentage is 6.00%


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  1. Bloodseeker (Jungle) (348)
  2. Gyrocopter (Middle) (294)
  3. Warlock (Middle) (219)
  4. Silencer (Middle) (160)
  5. Troll Warlord (Middle) (134)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  1. Naix (Jungle)
  2. Nyx Assassin (Middle)
  3. Sven
  4. Necrophos
  5. Sand King


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:

  • Phatom Assassin (361,667 -> 420,556)


Newly Released Guides:
  • Oralce (Lane)
  • Oracle (Middle)




Associated Reddit Topic - N/A
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 01 2014 10:51 GMT
#2491
  • Growth of Subscribers still manages to stay at 2 million growth since August 3rd.
  • Growth Rate Percentage marginally rises at 6.00%, thanks to the latest hero release

  • 11.29% of last month's unique players [9,863,009] are subscribed to the Lifestealer (Jungle) Guide

  • Top 15 guides are approx. 600k subscribers or higher each (up to 1 million in a guide)
  • Top 36 guides are approx. 500k subscribers or higher each
  • Top 60 guides are approx. 400k subscribers or higher each
  • Top 91 guides are approx. 300k subscribers or higher each
  • Top 112 guides are approx. 200k subscribers or higher each
  • Top 116 guides are approx. 100k subscribers or higher each
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-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
December 03 2014 16:55 GMT
#2492
On November 24 2014 05:42 Belisarius wrote:

Also, personally, I think mek should be situational on every support that doesn't need to rush blink. You simply can't rely on pub cores to get it, and your team usually still needs it even if your hero is a poor carrier.



To be honest I'd have agreed with this in full before patch 6.82 but I think now its necessary to be more careful with it. With the considerable increase in mana cost it can be very difficult to sustain on a poor carrier now.

So while I agree with your comment that every support should at least consider it, I'm not sure how beneficial it would be to just stick it on every non-blink support guide. If that was done it would probably need some qualifying comments about it.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 03 2014 17:00 GMT
#2493
Meka used to be suggested for a lot of heroes but was promptly removed as we got more in tune with which heroes can hold it (Ogre, Razer, Viper, DP, etc.) and which are expected to starve (1 to 3 items, usually Force Staff in there).
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 04 2014 15:14 GMT
#2494
My PC is currently being replaced, so my ability to work at home is severely reduced. I'm going to start re-examining some heroes I've been unsure of and streamline their items to add a bit more (situational - 4 for utility heroes and heroes who typically buy wards).

etc
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-09 11:02:57
December 06 2014 10:44 GMT
#2495
edit
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Antisceptic
Profile Joined December 2014
Australia4 Posts
December 08 2014 03:27 GMT
#2496
Hi Torte de Lini

I love your guides, and they really helped me understand each hero as I started learning the game.

I've made a few guides for some heroes I play differently to you, and I think they're targeted towards people who have a basic understanding of the class. I would love to have feedback from an experienced guide maker such as yourself.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/Antisceptic/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=570

Also, sorry for posting this on your Steam page, it's understandable you don't want this sort of post there.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 08 2014 08:07 GMT
#2497
On December 08 2014 12:27 Antisceptic wrote:
Hi Torte de Lini

I love your guides, and they really helped me understand each hero as I started learning the game.

I've made a few guides for some heroes I play differently to you, and I think they're targeted towards people who have a basic understanding of the class. I would love to have feedback from an experienced guide maker such as yourself.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/Antisceptic/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=570

Also, sorry for posting this on your Steam page, it's understandable you don't want this sort of post there.


hey, let me get back to you in an hour or two as I finish up some work.
No problem at all about posting on my page, I get a few of these and I never know if they are genuinely interested or just using my page to spam their stuff, which is annoying. By posting here, I know you're sincere (:
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-08 08:31:23
December 08 2014 08:31 GMT
#2498
On December 08 2014 12:27 Antisceptic wrote:
Hi Torte de Lini

I love your guides, and they really helped me understand each hero as I started learning the game.

I've made a few guides for some heroes I play differently to you, and I think they're targeted towards people who have a basic understanding of the class. I would love to have feedback from an experienced guide maker such as yourself.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/Antisceptic/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=570

Also, sorry for posting this on your Steam page, it's understandable you don't want this sort of post there.


Okay, so I won't make any corrections on your item choices or skill build because that's entirely up to you to decide and figure out.

  • My first suggestion and I think a lot of guide-makers fail to do is limit themselves. If this was a more advanced guide, I think the guides should be better separated and more diverse.

    For example: your situational items on Phantom Assassin (http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=306824525) has a lot of situational items, but no separation. The first three items could be separated to "Situational - Early Game", etc.

  • Third skill: "Blur" could be a more descriptive. I think it is sometimes forgotten that Blur is the reason why you should try and freely farm as much as you can, because you disappear on the map, which is neat.

  • For a lot of your abilities, you either make the skill description useless or nothing really stated. Take Windranger's first skill description: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=316430199 - Shackleshot tells the user nothing. You should perhaps write how it can be powerful and the way to go about using it (targeting creeps in front of the enemy you want to shackle or maybe angling yourself to put the enemy between you and a tree).

  • http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=316432419 -- I think you can add more tabs here, especially to separate your situationals.


I think that's pretty much it to be honest. If you're making guides for more advanced people, then you can definitely add more items, but separate them more clearly. Throwing everything into Situational ultimately makes them all unclear (unless someone reads them all).

That's my opinion at least (: Know your audience you want to target and then frame it with their knowledge and interest to use the guides (quick-reference or breakdown of how to play a hero?)
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Antisceptic
Profile Joined December 2014
Australia4 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-08 13:10:55
December 08 2014 13:07 GMT
#2499
Thanks for the advice! It's greatly appreciated!

When I first started making guides it was for fun and for my own use. I think I forgot that other people might actually find them useful and I need to put all of my thoughts in writing rather than just putting the bare bones in the descriptions to jog my own memory when playing. I'll see if I can flesh them out some more.

Thanks again.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 08 2014 15:36 GMT
#2500
On December 08 2014 22:07 Antisceptic wrote:
Thanks for the advice! It's greatly appreciated!

When I first started making guides it was for fun and for my own use. I think I forgot that other people might actually find them useful and I need to put all of my thoughts in writing rather than just putting the bare bones in the descriptions to jog my own memory when playing. I'll see if I can flesh them out some more.

Thanks again.


My logic is: it's better to have more than too little when writing explanations, but definitely strike a good balance!
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