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Best web development laptop? Sager or Lenovo?

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lannisport
Profile Joined February 2012
878 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-26 00:35:52
September 25 2014 21:44 GMT
#1
Old Laptop:

Intel i3-2370M CPU @ 2.40 GHZ (Passmark Benchmark: 2,768 -- High mid range CPUs)
6 gigabyte of RAM
HD3000 graphics card (GPUmark : 307 -- mid to high range)
Hard Drive: Hitachi HTS547550A9E384 (Benchmark: 451 -- Low midrange drive)

I usually have photoshop open, 3-4 web browsers (With something like 20 tabs on each open), filezilla, some pdfs, texts etc. It's tolerable but sometimes not so much. When I'm creating designs on photoshop it's a pain in the ass to have multiple PSDs open (even when all other programs are minimized or closed).

I develop a lot in python, django, javascript and php and will be starting some projects in java in the near future (And CAD/AutoCAD). It takes forever to even start a new django project or to install dependencies, something like 5-10 minutes. And a lot of the times when I run my virtual server my computer will freeze up. And when I'm working in IDEs such as sublime text or PyCharm they can take quite a while to load and to refresh. So I need help choosing a really good replacement for my laptop.

So priorities are: Speed, speed speed. Opening and working within photoshop, python, IDEs, in CMD and other shells.

I have no clue what affects these factors to be honest. Or what impacts it most. Is it the CPU? Type of drive i.e. SSD? Memory type and capacity?

Here are the two options:

1) Lenovo Y50

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CPU: 4th Generation Intel Core i7-4710HQ Processor (2.50GHz 1600MHz 6MB)
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M 2GB
Memory: 8.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3L SDRAM 1600 MHz
Hard Drive: Hybrid 1TB 5400 RPM+8GB SSHD
Display: 15.6" FHD LED AntiGlare Backlight (1920x1080) -- I think there's a 4k option?
Price: $1,279.00

2) Sager NP7358
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CPU: 4th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-4710MQ Processor ( 6MB L3 Cache, 2.50GHz) - 8,147
GPU: nVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 860M GPU with 2GB GDDR5 Video Memory - 2,798
Memory: 12GB DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 3 X 4GB
Hard Drive: 250GB Samsung 840 EVO Series mSATA3 SSD - as an OS Drive (Primary Drive C) + 750GB 7200rpm SATA2 Hard Drive -- 4,984
Display: 15.6" Full HD LED-Backlit Display with Matte Finished Surface (1920 x 1080)
Price: CA$1,486.56

Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-25 22:32:15
September 25 2014 22:31 GMT
#2
The Sager is smaller and less powerful, it has a weaker CPU and no dedicated graphics. It has >8GB of RAM though (if you're exceeding 8GB) and ssd in default config
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 25 2014 23:30 GMT
#3
From what you are saying, you need 8GB RAM, a FAST processor (probably an i7) and at least a 256GB SSD or a 128GB+Extra magnetic HD. The Sager is not what you want with the internal graphics (AutoCAD, etc.)

A gaming laptop might be more your thing - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152601

About $300 more then the above ones - but, if you use it a lot for work, it may we worth the extra price. Are you in the US?

http://www.ibuypower.com/Site/17-Inch-Gaming-Laptop and add the SSD+HDD combo? That's still about $1530...




THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
lannisport
Profile Joined February 2012
878 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-26 00:07:01
September 26 2014 00:04 GMT
#4
On September 26 2014 08:30 scott31337 wrote:
From what you are saying, you need 8GB RAM, a FAST processor (probably an i7) and at least a 256GB SSD or a 128GB+Extra magnetic HD. The Sager is not what you want with the internal graphics (AutoCAD, etc.)

A gaming laptop might be more your thing - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152601

About $300 more then the above ones - but, if you use it a lot for work, it may we worth the extra price. Are you in the US?

http://www.ibuypower.com/Site/17-Inch-Gaming-Laptop and add the SSD+HDD combo? That's still about $1530...






I won't be using autoCAD for a while. The main apps I'll have open most of the time are photoshop, foxit reader, chrome, firfox, XAMPP, PyCharm, SublimeText, OneNote, Skype, a Github Shell, CMD with python running on it, filezilla, and that's about it. Chrome right now is taking about 2gigs of RAM.

Processes: 203
Physical Memory: 83%

I upgraded my Sager base model to an NP7358 which *almost* has the same CPU and GPU as the Lenovo one. I think it's just a matter of getting enough RAM, 12 gigs to be safe, and also a good 256gig SSD.

CPU: 4th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-4710MQ Processor ( 6MB L3 Cache, 2.50GHz)
GPU: nVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 860M GPU with 2GB GDDR5 Video Memory
Memory: 12GB DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 3 X 4GB
Hard Drive: 250GB Samsung 840 EVO Series mSATA3 SSD - as an OS Drive (Primary Drive C) + 750GB 7200rpm SATA2 Hard Drive
Display: 15.6" Full HD LED-Backlit Display with Matte Finished Surface (1920 x 1080)
Price: CA$1,486.56
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 26 2014 00:52 GMT
#5
If the 15.6" will be fine for you, that sounds like you should be good to go.now

THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
lannisport
Profile Joined February 2012
878 Posts
September 26 2014 00:59 GMT
#6
On September 26 2014 09:52 scott31337 wrote:
If the 15.6" will be fine for you, that sounds like you should be good to go.now



Thanks and also thank you to Cyro for pointing me in the right direction. I can't wait to try out this bad boy. I'll be able to play starcraft again too!! YEahhhh.
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
September 26 2014 02:09 GMT
#7
Tried to spec match for you on the Lenovo website, they are a lot more expensive :S

The Sager looks like a good deal.
@miicah88
lannisport
Profile Joined February 2012
878 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-26 06:41:20
September 26 2014 06:10 GMT
#8
It's true, Sager looks really promising and I'm reallllyy looking forward to being able to run code without my entire laptop freezing for 30 seconds.

I just have a question though, I already see Windows 8 giving me headaches. What is the cheapest and easiest way to get the functionality of Windows 7? All I want are my pinned icons,all my previous programs working, the explorer working like it should, and my start menu.

Should I downgrade my license, install some mods, or use something like classic shell? http://www.classicshell.net/

I just hope things like desktop icons, chrome import, and variable paths work the same way....

ETA: Well, it's a little more expensive but I can purchase the windows 7 OS on Sager still. Phew. Stability over any small speed gains I might get by switching to Windows 8.
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