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On September 14 2013 13:34 iTzSnypah wrote:
Putting a SSD in sleep mode corrupts it, as it turns off the SSD's controller which has volatile data in its cache (SSD's have onboard RAM) without moving the volatile data to the NAND (non-volatile). Your going to have to wipe the drive and reinstall windows.
At least that is my understanding.
I use Sleep mode every single day multiple times, with Windows installed on an SSD. I therefore find it hard to believe that Sleep would corrupt _every_ SSD disk. Certainly not mine. Perhaps some controllers have difficulties with it, I would not know, but for me it works perfectly fine.
Wanted to point that out before people get paranoid about Sleep mode for no reason.
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On September 14 2013 15:19 dani` wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 13:34 iTzSnypah wrote:
Putting a SSD in sleep mode corrupts it, as it turns off the SSD's controller which has volatile data in its cache (SSD's have onboard RAM) without moving the volatile data to the NAND (non-volatile). Your going to have to wipe the drive and reinstall windows.
At least that is my understanding. I use Sleep mode every single day multiple times, with Windows installed on an SSD. I therefore find it hard to believe that Sleep would corrupt _every_ SSD disk. Certainly not mine. Perhaps some controllers have difficulties with it, I would not know, but for me it works perfectly fine. Wanted to point that out before people get paranoid about Sleep mode for no reason.
It must be hibernate or whatever the mode is called that shuts off a regular HDD.
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On September 14 2013 13:15 Ropid wrote:
If you think it's a software problem, did you try running that "sfc /scannow" command?
I tried that. Thought I wrote a post about it. Yeah no it didn't find anything wrong :/
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On September 14 2013 13:34 iTzSnypah wrote:
Putting a SSD in sleep mode corrupts it, as it turns off the SSD's controller which has volatile data in its cache (SSD's have onboard RAM) without moving the volatile data to the NAND (non-volatile). Your going to have to wipe the drive and reinstall windows.
At least that is my understanding.
But it is working now, without the GPU inserted. I'm using the computer just as it was before all this, only with the GPU removed and using the onboard Intel HD 4000 on the 3570k.
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Now I'm trying a fresh install of windows on an old hdd to see if that fixes those stupid problems I have. First with onboard gpu and if that works, try it with the 7950 and if that works, well... Mazel Tov!
It's probably not going to work because fuck me that's why-_-
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With a fresh install of windows, the same problems occur.
With no GPU: Can't turn off computer without using the powerbutton. Screen freezes on "Shutting down...".
With 9800GTX: Same as above except that the "Shutting down..." screen disappears and monitor goes into standby while CPU fans and chassi fans are still running. HDD seem to turn off though.
With 7950: Doesn't even start, no reaction on power button, nothing happens. It's "dead" basically.
So my thought is that the motherboard is "broken". Is it wrong to assume that? The 7950 could also be fucked but it doesn't really matter for now because the computer acts irrationally even without it.
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On September 14 2013 20:32 Sverigevader wrote:
With a fresh install of windows, the same problems occur.
With no GPU: Can't turn off computer without using the powerbutton. Screen freezes on "Shutting down...".
With 9800GTX: Same as above except that the "Shutting down..." screen disappears and monitor goes into standby while CPU fans and chassi fans are still running. HDD seem to turn off though.
With 7950: Doesn't even start, no reaction on power button, nothing happens. It's "dead" basically.
So my thought is that the motherboard is "broken". Is it wrong to assume that? The 7950 could also be fucked but it doesn't really matter for now because the computer acts irrationally even without it.
It would be pretty accurate to diagnose a mobo meltdown at this point but just to make sure, after reseting cmos did you do a check for broken settings in bios?
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I've checked a lot of settings and none seem out of order. I updated the bios and there was no change. I tried some different settings but none proved to change anything. Any specific settings you had in mind?
In the before days when everything worked and my name was written in rainbows, I did reset all settings to default in bios because of various reasons so I haven't had any trouble running with default.
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This happened twice to me and both times I ended up RMAing the motherboard (which fixed the problem). The problem was intermittent so I doubt it has anything to do with sleep mode or the graphics card.
When it happened to me, the problem was intermittent at first but the motherboard eventually refused to boot at all.
I'd recommend replacing the motherboard at this point. They usually have a 3 year warranty although an RMA usually takes about a month to go through.
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On September 15 2013 02:51 sundersoft wrote:
This happened twice to me and both times I ended up RMAing the motherboard (which fixed the problem). The problem was intermittent so I doubt it has anything to do with sleep mode or the graphics card.
When it happened to me, the problem was intermittent at first but the motherboard eventually refused to boot at all.
I'd recommend replacing the motherboard at this point. They usually have a 3 year warranty although an RMA usually takes about a month to go through.
Yeah that's what I'm going to do basically (which is fine, even for a month. I have my laptop and I don't have to play games). I was planning on testing the GPU at a friends house, but I wouldn't be comfortable putting his computer at risk. I should RMA it as well but I'm afraid that I might have to pay a penalty fine if there's nothing wrong with it. I'll see what my retailer has to say.
Thanks for the help guys. We'll see what happens 
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Just got word from the retailer about the motherboard RMA. The motherboard will be replaced but it's no longer in stock so they want to replace it with a similar one and they're suggesting this:
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/Z77A-GD65.html
instead of my old
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P8Z77V_LE_PLUS/
Do I take the deal or say that I want something else? It seems like a better board tbh but I haven't had time to check it and I have no experience with MSI stuff so any advice would be appreciated.
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It's good, but I don't like that you have to used fixed voltage for overclocking on MSI Z77 boards. So if you used offset voltage until now, you can't do that with the MSI board. If you were using fixed voltage until now, nothing changes for you.
Everything about the hardware seems super good.
It does not have any legacy PCI slot anymore, only PCI-E, so be careful if you still use an old PCI expansion card for something.
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Well I don't use offset voltage or old pci cards so I guess I'm in the clear. Thanks man
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