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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On November 08 2013 07:16 Soap wrote: They are still HyperX, but that is just a brand. Those you picked should be pretty good if they're the CAS9 instead of the CAS11. 2133MHz cas11 @ 1.65v is better than 1600MHz cas9 @ 1.65v aka get the Ripjaws, not the shitty HyperX. | ||
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Soap
Brazil1546 Posts
On November 08 2013 07:20 skyR wrote: 2133MHz cas11 @ 1.65v is better than 1600MHz cas9 @ 1.65v aka get the Ripjaws, not the shitty HyperX.  They're both 2133MHz. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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RJ231
Canada19 Posts
CPU: i5 2500k sandy bridge Motherboard: Asustek P8P67 RAM: 4GB DDR Video card: Radeon HD 6850 I knew when I built the PC the video card was on the lower end but it didn't matter since I only played LoL and Sc2 (on lowest settings as a preference) but now it's time to step it up. thx in advance! | ||
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da_head
Canada3350 Posts
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Cheps
United Arab Emirates197 Posts
On November 08 2013 06:42 skyR wrote: All GPUs still use PCI-E x16 so there is no concern about compatibility. 1.1, 2.0, 2.1, and 3.0 are all backwards and forward compatible. GTX 650 Ti Boost is okay but not necessarily something you'd get if you're looking to play AAA titles at high. Thanks skyR! That's good to know. I checked the recommended pc upgrades in post 1 and for "High-end gamer" it suggested this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125466 Would that be better for AAA titles at high? I got it in the cart and ready to go. You seem like a pretty knowledgeable guy so you will decide if i buy it or not :D | ||
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IdiotSavant
United States88 Posts
On November 08 2013 07:10 skyR wrote: Both cases have better internals than the HAF 912 (better drive cages, black interior, rubber grommets, better fans (140mm also), better dust filters, less 5.25" external bays, integrated fan controller, etc). Also both have USB 3.0 which the HAF912 lacks. Arc Midi R2 is airflow oriented (includes three 140mm fans) while the Define R4 is silence oriented (has sound dampening material). For video cards, probably stick to the big three. Gigabyte for $300: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125475 or ASUS and MSI at $310: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121803 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127759 Ok. I guess I'll stick with the gigabyte one seeing as my motherboard is also gigabyte unless someone has experience and recommends the other one(s) over it. As for the case thanks for the run down. I think I'd go for airflow over sound since I am in a windowless room (yeah..) and sound is never a problem for me anymore (my current one is like a jet engine...but maybe that's b/c a whole side of the case is removed)...but still a bit undecided...the R4 looks like it has same amount of fans (in pictures) does the airflow really make that much of a difference? On November 08 2013 07:16 Soap wrote: They are still HyperX, but that is just a brand. Those you picked should be pretty good if they're the CAS9 instead of the CAS11. Its a CAS9. thats the one listed on the sample builds. Just wondering if a kingston one would be better (more reliable..better made?, etc). All the computers I've used (built by friends or dad) have had kingston. Edit: On November 08 2013 07:26 skyR wrote: Hm I thought we were talking about the HyperX listed in the Forbes build. But you'd still want the cas11 since it's $20 less. my price range isn't very tight so that's not a big deal. CAS11 is better than CAS 9s? (I don't wanna do the higher number cliche) currently 3 parts down on the build  case, motherboard, and cpu  . thanks for reading and continuing to help me!Edit 2: Power supply: Seasonic SSR-650RM [listed in sample build] on newegg a 650W one is 99.99 but the 750W is also 99.99 after mail in rebate. should I go with the 750? Or is there a better power supply now than this one. | ||
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RJ231
Canada19 Posts
On November 08 2013 07:32 da_head wrote: ghosts only uses 2 gb of ram. there's a few mods out there already to knock down the requirement, so you should be fine with 4 gb Either way I'd like to upgrade, mostly looking for advice as I haven't any idea about any of the new video cards and what would work with my setup. I'm assuming my CPU/mobo should still be powerful enough these days, just need to upgrade my video card so I can enjoy the new FPS games on the prettier settings. RAM is also pretty cheap so no reason I can't upgrade it to a pair of 4GB sticks, the RAM I currently have now can be moved into the PC I use on my TV so nothing is really wasted when I upgrade anyway. | ||
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downmaster
Canada116 Posts
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Soap
Brazil1546 Posts
On November 08 2013 07:45 IdiotSavant wrote: Ok. I guess I'll stick with the gigabyte one seeing as my motherboard is also gigabyte unless someone has experience and recommends the other one(s) over it. The Asus 280x is a lot quieter. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-280x-third-party-round-up,3655-5.html On November 08 2013 07:45 IdiotSavant wrote: Its a CAS9. thats the one listed on the sample builds. Just wondering if a kingston one would be better (more reliable..better made?, etc). All the computers I've used (built by friends or dad) have had kingston. Often Kingston is quite bad. On November 08 2013 07:45 IdiotSavant wrote: my price range isn't very tight so that's not a big deal. CAS11 is better than CAS 9s? (I don't wanna do the higher number cliche) The lower the CAS the better. On November 08 2013 07:45 IdiotSavant wrote: on newegg a 650W one is 99.99 but the 750W is also 99.99 after mail in rebate. should I go with the 750? Or is there a better power supply now than this one. I don't think it's worth the trouble of doing the mail-in rebate. | ||
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IdiotSavant
United States88 Posts
On November 08 2013 08:13 Soap wrote: The Asus one is a lot quieter. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-280x-third-party-round-up,3655-5.html Actually Kingston is often quite bad. The other way around. I don't think it's worth the trouble of doing the mail-in rebate. 1) Sound isn't a problem. I'm more concerned about airflow/cooling. But the R4 case pictures looks like its newer and has better airflow, etc. but I guess not? 2) So CAS 9 is better. Good to know. 3) Mail in rebates are never a problem for me. + Since I'm going be be buying a while new rig instead of upgrading I'll probably end up doing a bunch at one time anyway. New question: HDD I was told that 1TB or less isn't that good anymore and the one I currently have is 3TB so that would be my baseline. The sample link took me to amazon but there was also an "upgrade" listed on the bottom. Anyone able to read through the jargon and tell a laymen whats better about it? "Old" sample link vs "Upgrade" For the SSD I guess the samsung ones are the best and for the pricing I think I'll end up sticking with the sample build one listed Samsung 840 EVO 250GB listed price is $180..but its now $190. $195 on newegg. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
The WFZEX drives were just released, better performance and reliability blahblah. But you have a SSD so getting a 2TB Black for secondary storage isn't the best use of money. Blue or Greens would be fine. | ||
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Cheps
United Arab Emirates197 Posts
Mind answering my question a few posts above? Also I was looking at this one as well which seems similar: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130932 On November 08 2013 07:41 Cheps wrote: Thanks skyR! That's good to know. I checked the recommended pc upgrades in post 1 and for "High-end gamer" it suggested this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125466 Would that be better for AAA titles at high? I got it in the cart and ready to go. You seem like a pretty knowledgeable guy so you will decide if i buy it or not :D | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Cheps
United Arab Emirates197 Posts
On November 08 2013 08:53 skyR wrote: GTX 760 is okay but if you want to stick with Nvidia, I'd probably step up to the GTX 770 for $40 more: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127741 You're awesome, bud. Thanks for all the help! | ||
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Ata
Canada356 Posts
On November 08 2013 07:58 RJ231 wrote: Either way I'd like to upgrade, mostly looking for advice as I haven't any idea about any of the new video cards and what would work with my setup. I'm assuming my CPU/mobo should still be powerful enough these days, just need to upgrade my video card so I can enjoy the new FPS games on the prettier settings. RAM is also pretty cheap so no reason I can't upgrade it to a pair of 4GB sticks, the RAM I currently have now can be moved into the PC I use on my TV so nothing is really wasted when I upgrade anyway. http://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0098WZV1E/?tag=pcp0f-20 for 2x4 or you can just add a 2x2 http://www.amazon.ca/dp/B002MVFJTC/?tag=pcp0f-20 How much are you looking to upgrade in terms of graphics? EVGA GeForce GTX760 @ 270 and Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 @ 255 both @ ncix and both with ASSASIN'S Creed 4 and Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Blacklist http://www.ncix.ca/products/?affiliateid=7474144&sku=85650&vpn=02G-P4-2763-KR&manufacture=eVGA&promoid=1244 http://www.ncix.ca/products/?affiliateid=7474144&sku=85587&vpn=GV-N760OC-2GD REV2.0&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1244 edit: you need to tell us what your psu is just to be 100% sure and a budget for GPU. | ||
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IdiotSavant
United States88 Posts
On November 08 2013 08:37 skyR wrote: Define series is older so it's been through three revisions. Arc Midi is relatively new so it's only had one revision. The WFZEX drives were just released, better performance and reliability blahblah. But you have a SSD so getting a 2TB Black for secondary storage isn't the best use of money. Blue or Greens would be fine. Didn't even notice the color. Thanks. This is why I ask for help here so good and I would be kicking myself if I bought the wrong part.This is my build that I will be buying I think. Might wait for some of the items to go on sale, etc. but some prices/promo codes are really nice. Quick note...the CPU will probably be upgraded to the i7 if it goes on sale within this year. otherwise I'll be holding off till last purchase on that one. Lmk if it looks good, if you have any suggestions or comments, etc. And again thanks for reading, helping, and guiding me through this long process. + Show Spoiler + Processor (CPU) Intel Core i5-4670K Quad-Core Desktop Processor 3.4 GHZ 6 MB Cache - BX80646I54670K http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CO8TBOW?tag=tealiq-20 $219 Motherboard GIGABYTE GA-Z87X-D3H LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128591 $139 $119.99 after $20.00 rebate card Memory (RAM) G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-2133C9D-8GXL http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231689 84.99 Video Card (GPU) GIGABYTE GV-R928XOC-3GD Radeon R9 280X 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 HDCP ready CrossFireX Support Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125475 $299.99 Primary Storage Samsung Electronics 840 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5-Inch SATA III Single Unit Version Internal Solid State Drive MZ-7TE250BW http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-7TE250BW/dp/B00E3W1726/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1383869207&sr=1-1&keywords=Samsung 840 Evo Series $175.93 Secondary Storage Western Digital WD Green WD30EZRX 3TB IntelliPower 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive Bare Drive - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2W00YW3509 $129.99 $109.99 with promo code Power Supply (PSU) SeaSonic G-750 SSR-750RM 750W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151118 $114.99 $99.99 after $15.00 rebate Case Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 FD-CA-ARC-R2-BL-W Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352031&Tpk=Fractal Design Arc MIDI $109.99 $82 with promo Heatsink Noctua NH-U14S http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608041 $75.99 Total Build Price: ~$1268 before tax/shipping [rebates included though][would add around $150 for the i7 irrc] Edit: prices listed are lowest I've seen on the 3 main sites I use: amazon.com, newegg.com, and us.ncix.com. Edit: 2 bolded things and spacing for easier reading Also I noticed that my dad's build currently using a 3TB HDD and then 2x 2TB HDDs. I'm hoping/guessing the 1 SDD will make it faster and better for the amount I'm paying for one at 250GB? | ||
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Ata
Canada356 Posts
On November 08 2013 08:04 downmaster wrote: Skyr can you pick out parts for my friends build? The info is on page 90 unless you are looking for 120hz the UltraSharp U2312HM is $190 on dell.ca (it does drop once a year to $180). http://accessories.dell.com/sna/products/Gaming_Accessories/productdetail.aspx?c=ca&l=en&s=dhs&cs=cadhs1&sku=320-2807 I could put a build together for you if you like but I don't know much about keyboards/mouse so you would have to give me a budget just for the tower and if you are going to 60fps or 120. | ||
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RJ231
Canada19 Posts
On November 08 2013 09:05 Ata wrote: http://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0098WZV1E/?tag=pcp0f-20 for 2x4 or you can just add a 2x2 http://www.amazon.ca/dp/B002MVFJTC/?tag=pcp0f-20 How much are you looking to upgrade in terms of graphics? EVGA GeForce GTX760 @ 270 and Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 @ 255 both @ ncix and both with ASSASIN'S Creed 4 and Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Blacklist http://www.ncix.ca/products/?affiliateid=7474144&sku=85650&vpn=02G-P4-2763-KR&manufacture=eVGA&promoid=1244 http://www.ncix.ca/products/?affiliateid=7474144&sku=85587&vpn=GV-N760OC-2GD REV2.0&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1244 edit: you need to tell us what your psu is just to be 100% sure and a budget for GPU. Thx for the response, power supply is: Antec Earthwatts 650W Power Supply ATX12V V2.2 EPS12V Active PFC 80PLUS 120MM Fan I'm not too worried about any additional offers/mail ins with the GPU, just looking for something to last me the next few years and be able to play the newer games on high settings without issues. thx! | ||
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Ata
Canada356 Posts
Zotac GeForce GTX 770 OC 1111MHZ @ $330-20MIR http://www.ncix.ca/products/?affiliateid=7474144&sku=84680&vpn=ZT-70301-10P&manufacture=Zotac&promoid=1244 EVGA GeForce GTX 770 1046MHZ 2GB @ $330 http://www.ncix.ca/products/?affiliateid=7474144&sku=84733&vpn=02G-P4-2770-KR&manufacture=eVGA&promoid=1244 you can pricematch the evga on memoryexpress, I dont know if they have the games with the card or not. Sapphire Radeon R9 280X 870MHZ 3G @ $300 http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=14080BD5763&vpn=11221-00-20G&manufacture=SAPPHIRE XFX Radeon HD 7970 Double D 925MHZ 3GB @ $300-30MIR http://www.ncix.ca/products/?affiliateid=7474144&sku=80254&vpn=FX797ATDJC&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1244 If this is your PSU (http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=30037) then it should be just enough. Im not entirely sure how well these cards compare with latest bios as i see different results from different benchmarks but they should all be kind of close relative to their cost. | ||
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