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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-31 21:15:50
July 31 2016 21:12 GMT
#12381
On August 01 2016 06:04 segers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2016 05:38 Cyro wrote:
up'd the voltages etc but still nothing


The CPU memory controller voltages are different ones


I know, it's the System Agent Voltage in the gigabyte bios, and I bumped it up notch by notch, went as far as +0.065V (there are people who only go up to like +0.025 and it works) but it still won't work, however 2133 works fine at default voltages.


There's a few more, SA is the main one but it's more important to know the actual voltage rather than the offset. I can't remember the right voltages right now.

Your XMP might set different timings, for example c9 on 2133 and c10 on 2400
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
segers
Profile Joined May 2016
12 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-31 21:28:20
July 31 2016 21:20 GMT
#12382
On August 01 2016 06:12 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2016 06:04 segers wrote:
On August 01 2016 05:38 Cyro wrote:
up'd the voltages etc but still nothing


The CPU memory controller voltages are different ones


I know, it's the System Agent Voltage in the gigabyte bios, and I bumped it up notch by notch, went as far as +0.065V (there are people who only go up to like +0.025 and it works) but it still won't work, however 2133 works fine at default voltages.


There's a few more, SA is the main one but it's more important to know the actual voltage rather than the offset. I can't remember the right voltages right now.

Your XMP might set different timings, for example c9 on 2133 and c10 on 2400



Yeah well in all honesty, I can put together a pc and whatnot but once it gets to those voltages etc.. I'm completely lost haha, I know the system agent is like one of the first things you have to start toying with but all the rest is just like.. and with those XMP profiles, there's like profile 1 & 2 (2400mhz & 2133mhz) but then there are custom ones as well, if you enable that you get like a whole list of presets but there isn't even one profile among those from hyperx, it's all from g.skill etc.. and not a single one for 2400mhz so I left that disabled and just picked profile 1 (2 atm for 2133mhz).

Really need to start reading up on the whole oc'ing thing.
Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
August 01 2016 03:37 GMT
#12383
Hello everyone, I want to upgrade my computer by getting a new graphics card, I am not sure what I should get and if I would need to upgrade anything else in my computer to be able to use the card without bottlenecking it. The current specs are:

Video Card: Nvidia GeForce GTX 560 Ti
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3820 CPU @ 3.60GHz (8 CPUs), ~3.6GHz
RAM: Kingston ddr3 8 gigs
Motherboard: Asus P9X79
OS: Windows 10

My ideal price range is $200-$500 but I can spend more if I need to get more than a graphics card upgrade. Thank you for the help.
Best Trashcan NA - LoL Summoner. SKT / CLG / Liquid
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
August 01 2016 04:28 GMT
#12384
What I would suggest depends on the games you play. What is your monitor (more importantly, its resolution), and what games do you play, expect to play?
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
August 01 2016 04:48 GMT
#12385
My resolution is 1920 x 1080, I currently play CSGO/WoW/RocketLeague/Overwatch for multiplayer games and I play a lot of the AAA studio single player games like Dark Souls/Witcher/Fallout/Deus Ex. A friend told me I should get a 970 or 1070 but idk if they would be ok with my other specs
Best Trashcan NA - LoL Summoner. SKT / CLG / Liquid
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
August 01 2016 08:12 GMT
#12386
The rest of your computer is fine. I don't think you'll see much change for some of those games, but a 1070 or for most of the same goodness at cheaper, the 480 are both good buys. Don't get a 970. Vram could be an issue in the future, and it doesn't have a lot.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-01 08:40:54
August 01 2016 08:21 GMT
#12387
A 1070 is ~1.5x faster than a 480 and way more expensive, kinda different performance tier

WoW & Fallout run worse on AMD cards due to them taking more CPU per frame. I'm not sure what the exact performance difference is now, it seems a lot smaller than the old +50% but still substantial. An example of this (obviously CPU limited FPS) - https://tpucdn.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1070/images/fallout4_1600_900.png - there is some weirdness between the GPU gens and some driver changes so it's hard to know what is up right now.

Performance-wise i think a ~970-rx480 would be a pretty big benefit, 1070 level performance would help for quite a few games but not all. Your CPU will only reach a certain FPS ceiling in whatever game you're in (that depends on the game and situation) and a better graphics card can't raise that, it can only give you prettier visuals while at that framerate. That CPU is fairly decent but not amazing so it'd be obvious in the CPU heavy games.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
August 01 2016 08:42 GMT
#12388
I really like the sound levels which you see on the GTX 1060s at load.
maru lover forever
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
August 01 2016 08:44 GMT
#12389
On August 01 2016 17:42 Incognoto wrote:
I really like the sound levels which you see on the GTX 1060s at load.


A friend bought a 1070 FTW and was getting load temps around 50-55c with ~2500rpm fan while overclocked, very easy to keep noise down and performance up since there's no real reason to stay below ~75c. You should see the same with custom rx480 cards
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
BassInSpace
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia165 Posts
August 01 2016 10:24 GMT
#12390
On August 01 2016 01:42 Cyro wrote:
Glad it's working!

For the HDD thing, it's fine to transfer data over. Cloning sometimes doesn't work very well but transferring data is fine; might be better to just reinstall OS if you're fine with that.

You can have a HDD with reallocated sectors that runs fine for many years (my 1TB has had 4015 for like 2-3 years) but they can also just stop working overnight at random. Storage drives in general do that sometimes, especially HDD's. A steadily increasing reallocated sectors count is more worrying than one that went up once or twice and then stayed stable


Great, I will keep an eye out on the reallocated sector count till I go ahead with the upgrade just out of interest, thanks for the info
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
August 01 2016 10:32 GMT
#12391
Is it possible to upgrade a pirated version of Windows 7 to Windows 10 for free still?

Just asking for a friend ofcourse
madheathen
Profile Joined August 2016
1 Post
August 01 2016 15:14 GMT
#12392
On August 01 2016 19:32 B.I.G. wrote:
Is it possible to upgrade a pirated version of Windows 7 to Windows 10 for free still?

Just asking for a friend ofcourse


I think the free update was available for one year, and we might have just passed the deadline or we're very close to it but yeah if the update is available still, it should be possible.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-01 18:37:32
August 01 2016 18:26 GMT
#12393
The free update period for windows 10 has ended already but this was added: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
August 01 2016 21:01 GMT
#12394
"Assistive options?"

It's like the aren't even trying to hide it anymore.
maru lover forever
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
August 01 2016 22:28 GMT
#12395
They never really have. Microsoft doesn't go after individuals who pirate their OS because it would hurt their business model. Windows' market share is partially a result of a positive feedback loop. The more common Windows is, the more people are familiar with Windows. The more people are familiar with Windows, the more effort required for other operating systems to be adopted, both by individuals, corporations (who those tech support individuals work for), and by software developers (who don't want to develop for a small market).

In essence, Windows is happy to let some theft (pirating) slide as long as by doing so it protects its business model: vast amounts of money from institutions and corporations who more or less have to go with Windows because doing otherwise would mean much of their common software doesn't work and they'd have to spend a bunch on training their employees.

That said, don't pirate, that's not promoted on TeamLiquid. I'm just speculating on Microsoft's motivations behind not bothering the individual pirates much.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
vAtAZz
Profile Joined September 2011
France250 Posts
August 02 2016 13:34 GMT
#12396
Hi,

I sold my R9 380 a month ago, in order to save for a Sapphire 480 Nitro, but it's definitely not available yet in France. Any idea when it comes out? Since i'm tired struggling with no video card using MB chipset...
Talent is nothing if you don't have the constant desire to stay at the top. SlayerSBoxeR
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
August 02 2016 14:27 GMT
#12397
Stock still seems really low, could be a few weeks to months
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-05 13:43:19
August 05 2016 13:42 GMT
#12398
Good luck getting any decent deals on the GTX 10xx or AMD cards anytime soon. Once they appear on the market, they're all quickly sold even for ridiculously high MSRP prices. Especially in the case of the Nvidia cards.

Trying to grab a decent 1060 but more likely have to wait till after the holidays because they just aren't manufacturing enough to satisfy the demand right now.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24143 Posts
August 05 2016 19:41 GMT
#12399
On August 05 2016 22:42 Disregard wrote:
Good luck getting any decent deals on the GTX 10xx or AMD cards anytime soon. Once they appear on the market, they're all quickly sold even for ridiculously high MSRP prices. Especially in the case of the Nvidia cards.

Trying to grab a decent 1060 but more likely have to wait till after the holidays because they just aren't manufacturing enough to satisfy the demand right now.


Yeah, my card (560 448 cores) died recently (still somehow works with microsoft basic display adapter?) and I wanted to replace it with a 1060 but I can only find the $330+ models available.

Debating on getting a 750ti or a 950 (also saw a 370 for less than $100 at a local store) to hold me over until I can find a 1060 (or budget up to a 1070) then just use the temp card in a media machine.

Decisions decisions...
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
August 07 2016 01:36 GMT
#12400
$100 + $300 is a lot more than $330 even if you do get a media machine card from it
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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