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MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
July 27 2016 15:16 GMT
#12341
@Sholip I'd look to buy an XFX 450w unit. XFX being the brand name. That's kind of a go-to qualty always an ok price PSU in Europe. The wattage number is lower, but don't worry about that. One of the differences between a quality PSU and a crappy PSU is not inflating the wattage number when advertising...

There are other options, but that's the one that should be widely available. Particularly if you look around for an online shop that gives you free shipping somehow.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-27 21:14:18
July 27 2016 21:13 GMT
#12342
Was about to buy an EVGA 1080 FTW on NewEgg as it was in stock, went away for 40 minutes came back and out of stock. RIP me. I'll go with the Gigabyte Windforce I guess, I hate shopping stuff that's highly in demand.
Ercster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States603 Posts
July 27 2016 22:32 GMT
#12343
I want to upgrade to Win 10 while it's free, but I'm unsure how to clean install on an SSD with Win7 on it. Do I just install like you would for any other HDD, or do I need to do anything in particular? I have a Samsung 840 EVO 500gb.
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.” -Neil deGrasse Tyson
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24753 Posts
July 27 2016 22:35 GMT
#12344
Personally I let Windows update move me over to win10, then I wrote down the win10 CD key, made a win10 boot disk, and reformatted the hard drive. I don't know if that's actually necessary for a clean install but it worked fine for me, aside from being a bit time consuming.
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Ercster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States603 Posts
July 27 2016 22:41 GMT
#12345
That won't destroy the lifespan of the SSD?
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.” -Neil deGrasse Tyson
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
July 28 2016 00:44 GMT
#12346
You're thinking of defragging, not reformatting. Defragging adds a lot of extra writes and doesn't help performance, which is why it's recommended against doing it (but a single defrag isn't going to be a very big deal, it's mostly about having it running on a schedule, i.e. many times)
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-28 08:09:05
July 28 2016 07:36 GMT
#12347
Is there any real benefit to a clean install if I upgraded from a freshly installed copy of Windows 7 on a blank SSD (basically just had SP1 and the bare minimum required updates needed for windows 10 update to run)?

18gb of diskspace from win 7 being gone is always nice, I suppose.

Assuming that's about the only benefit, could I just delete the old windows 7 files and call it done?
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-28 08:34:31
July 28 2016 08:33 GMT
#12348
@Jinro:
Assuming you're in Win10 right now, hit Win+Q command and search up Disk Clean-up. Right click it and run as administrator, you should from there be able to delete your old Win7 files. After that you should be fine, since it was a clean installation from the start you don't really need to reinstall Win10 again.
Too weird to live, too rare to die.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
July 28 2016 08:55 GMT
#12349
Thanks, that sounds perfect =]
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
July 28 2016 09:26 GMT
#12350
Will a power supply bought in Europe explode if plugged in in the USA?
maru lover forever
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-28 11:14:26
July 28 2016 11:14 GMT
#12351
On July 28 2016 18:26 Incognoto wrote:
Will a power supply bought in Europe explode if plugged in in the USA?


Some of them will, i think many good quality units can take either voltage without having to do anything special. Triple check it
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
July 28 2016 11:26 GMT
#12352
For sure I will.

It's a superflower leadex, as good a quality they come without spending unreasonable amounts of money, i guess
maru lover forever
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-28 18:49:31
July 28 2016 17:56 GMT
#12353
Nvidia settled on class action about the 970 issue - they advertised it as being full chip aside from 3 SM's cut, but actually also cut some L2 cache and ROP's which hurt performance and effectively made it a 224 bit card with the last 0.5GB of VRAM unusable. They handled this pretty badly at the time as well - objectively underplaying the effects of the cut, talking about driver improvements that never came and instructing all retailers to deny related returns.

$30 to everyone who bought a 970. Will see how easy this is to cash in and where it applies.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1607150/tca-nvidia-settles-graphic-card-false-advertising-class-action-lawsuit/
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
July 28 2016 18:10 GMT
#12354
On July 29 2016 02:56 Cyro wrote:
Nvidia settled on class action about the 970 issue - they advertised it as being full chip aside from 3 SM's cut, but actually also cut some L2 cache and ROP's hurt performance and effectively made it a 224 bit card with the last 0.5GB of VRAM unusable. They handled this pretty badly at the time as well - objectively underplaying the effects of the cut, talking about driver improvements that never came and instructing all retailers to deny related returns.

$30 to everyone who bought a 970. Will see how easy this is to cash in and where it applies.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1607150/tca-nvidia-settles-graphic-card-false-advertising-class-action-lawsuit/


$30? Is that it?
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
July 28 2016 18:43 GMT
#12355
On July 29 2016 02:56 Cyro wrote:
Nvidia settled on class action about the 970 issue - they advertised it as being full chip aside from 3 SM's cut, but actually also cut some L2 cache and ROP's hurt performance and effectively made it a 224 bit card with the last 0.5GB of VRAM unusable. They handled this pretty badly at the time as well - objectively underplaying the effects of the cut, talking about driver improvements that never came and instructing all retailers to deny related returns.

$30 to everyone who bought a 970. Will see how easy this is to cash in and where it applies.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1607150/tca-nvidia-settles-graphic-card-false-advertising-class-action-lawsuit/


Interesting, any idea how to follow up on this? Or should the regular 970 owner just wait?
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
July 28 2016 18:49 GMT
#12356
Follow the thread i guess. Not clear at the moment, but 970 is the most popular graphics card on the steam hardware survey.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
July 28 2016 20:52 GMT
#12357
On July 29 2016 03:10 Deleuze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2016 02:56 Cyro wrote:
Nvidia settled on class action about the 970 issue - they advertised it as being full chip aside from 3 SM's cut, but actually also cut some L2 cache and ROP's hurt performance and effectively made it a 224 bit card with the last 0.5GB of VRAM unusable. They handled this pretty badly at the time as well - objectively underplaying the effects of the cut, talking about driver improvements that never came and instructing all retailers to deny related returns.

$30 to everyone who bought a 970. Will see how easy this is to cash in and where it applies.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1607150/tca-nvidia-settles-graphic-card-false-advertising-class-action-lawsuit/


$30? Is that it?

Class actions rarely amount to a reasonable amount for an affected individual.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-28 21:03:38
July 28 2016 20:57 GMT
#12358
$30 is an actually noticable amount of money though it's only like 9.1% of the reference MSRP. I've heard of class actions paying out like $4 a decade later.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
July 28 2016 21:04 GMT
#12359
$30 is a lot actually. That should be a significant cut into their margins.
maru lover forever
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-28 21:12:13
July 28 2016 21:07 GMT
#12360
On July 29 2016 06:04 Incognoto wrote:
$30 is a lot actually. That should be a significant cut into their margins.


If more than a few people claimed it, perhaps. They're still probably coming out of this better than if they had cut the price by 10% and fully disclosed that they cut the chip. They quickly became the fastest selling GPU of all time, they absolutely ruined AMD's marketshare and a large part of that was because of the lie of the almost-fully-enabled chip @$330.

According to some marketshare analysis, Nvidia had ~1.63 GPU's per 1 that AMD had in the kepler vs gcn era.. that increased to ~3.17 within 2 quarters of the 970 release. Those sales numbers put them in the most dominant marketshare position they'd been in for a very, very long time.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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