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Craton
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mantequilla
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Cyro
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On August 02 2015 04:45 wabbazoo wrote: I've read it really only makes a difference in synthetic benchmarks. This RAM was the best deal I could find. When I order the parts I'll probably just pick whatever the best deal is then. RAM performance doesn't matter for a large % of games (as long as it's not completely terrible), but quite a few of them actually scale (usually CPU heavy, often large scale like an MMO or arma 3, battlefield 4 - or some RTS games) and it's not well established why they each scale with memory (bandwidth, latency etc) only that higher memory performance in every way can substantially improve game performance g3258 would probably run sc2 better i think (and even be cheaper, maybe), but overall having 2 cores and 2 threads is problematic for some programs that will refuse to launch or run badly, even if those 2 cores are faster than 4 weaker threads on something like an fx-4100. That's mostly down to bad programming. | ||
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Incognoto
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My idle temperatures are ALWAYS at 40°C. So I decided to take the card apart, clean out all dust, clean up vrm heatsinks, the heatsink itself, the fans and re-apply thermal paste (MX 4). Both before and after my cleaning, idle temperatures are stuck at 40°C. Load temperatures are more than all right though. I have 60°C with a 48% fanspeed (quiet setting, but moves enough air for some cooling) under heaven benchmark. same with SC2 and aoe3 (22°C ambient). http://i.imgur.com/PnR299m.png 10 minutes of shadow warrior (most gpu taxing game i have atm) with 24°C ambient gives me this; http://i.imgur.com/3FdPLrV.png so load temperatures aren't actually so bad at all really just idle. maybe drivers? :s | ||
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Cyro
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Also, the way AMD does voltage, it's likely that having a high stock voltage or increasing voltage will actually run higher idle voltage as well. They seem to increase voltage across the board instead of doing what Nvidia does (only increasing voltage at the very high end of the clocks) which is better in some ways and worse in others. | ||
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Incognoto
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i'm thinking something changed would it be drivers then, considering your post? | ||
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Cyro
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Incognoto
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maybe that's the problem.. temperatures have been "high" for about a month or two. which is roughly around when i got the monitor. i'll put monitor at 60 hz to see if that changes anything. i'm at full 144 atm | ||
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phar
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Craton
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Kupon3ss
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sc2 is a different issue altogether though | ||
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Cyro
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semi confirmed skylake info/release @ gamescom btw | ||
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mantequilla
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Cyro
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Nvidia is better at making graphics drivers than Intel is. There is also some tech like NVENC, and it's helpful to put the heat on a graphics card (which can have a huge cooler attached to it) rather than dumping it all a few centimeters away from your CPU cores which are very heat dense and hard to remove heat from | ||
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Incognoto
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hot damn you literally solve 95% of all my problems :D http://i.imgur.com/dy82pqd.png i put the monitor to 60Hz. clockspeed went from 500 to 300 MHz. Voltage from 1175 mV to 950mV. this is with 24°C ambient atm so 144Hz and blur reduction does all this. edit: with the added bonus of having a really clean card now. no more dust, free tim job. nice little chip ~ pps: blur reduction at 60 Hz destroys your eyes | ||
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Cyro
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pps: blur reduction at 60 Hz destroys your eyes destroys my eyes even @120hz but that's partially my fault because i strain by some amount (didn't even notice for ages) to read font sizes below ~18 without vision correction. It's like game for 2 hours fine and then leave it on while reading a forum for 10 minutes and have a bad headache for the next hour. I got pretty concerned about that and stopped using it eventually, they have warnings everywhere with lightboost strobing not to use it at all if it causes headaches. 120hz is just a bit low for strobing with huge brightness (~450cd/m2 in your face in a dark room), it would be a lot better by 240hz. 60 is unusable PSA: Amazon UK has a £10 off anything over £50 thing today. I just got an 850 evo 250GB for £74 but with this, you can get it for £62.45 shipped. That's pretty insane :D (i'm gonna try to get that £12 back) ----------------------- Anyone know anything about cloning drives? I used samsung software to clone this ~3 week old windows install, but the destination drive (new ssd) changed itself to D:// and it's not listed as system or boot drive in disk management. Also since installing the drive (the last thing i did in bios was re-enable the sata port) i can't get to bios any more. Either i press nothing and display starts with the loading windows thing, or i hit the bios hotkey and my system just stays with no display until i hard power down. o.0 What's a good next step here? I can always unplug the OS SSD, install windows onto the new SSD and then try to run them both side by side to copy some stuff over but that's a bit more bother than i wanted considering it's pretty much a brand new install that i just finished fixing all of the obscure settings on edit: kk i unplugged first SSD and it seems to have set itself to C: and made itself a boot drive etc fine. Hopefully i can get to bios now, switch around the boot orders and it will behave when i have both drives plugged in again edit2: Nop, it doesn't like that at all. No bios when i have the old primary drive plugged in anywhere, that's awkward. Guess i'l have to delete the stuff on it from a second PC. pretty good speed improvement | ||
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mantequilla
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Cyro
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performance looks good, i needed the intel rapid storage thing to get iops from ~80k to ~97k + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/VcufK67.png) using a benchmark from an ssd manufacturer is pretty silly but it was useful for showing the before/after performance The drive is "250GB" - 250,000,000,000 bytes, which is actually ~232.8GB in binary as most files/OS's display. On top of that there's no overprovision space so the space that you can go ahead and use is about 200GB, not really 250GB. Most drives do that sort of crap, though. | ||
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