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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
July 25 2015 22:13 GMT
#10281
On July 26 2015 01:11 EngrishTeacher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 00:58 XenOmega wrote:
There is currently a GPU promo sale on NCIX

If you buy one of their GTX 9xx graphic or laptop (From select brand), you can get a free copy of Metal Gear Solid 5. It's pretty guaranteed that I will buy MGS5 when it comes out (unsure about which platform though). Knowing that MGS5 will likely cost over 60$ on release, should I grab one of the GPU to get it at the same time? The cheapest GTX 960 seems to be around 250$. The 970 seems to be around 400$. 980 is probably out of reach (and doesn't meet any actual need)

My current CPU is i5-2500k
8gb ram
My current GPU is AMD 7870 (or 7850, I don't remember) : I am not playing anything that is very demanding at the moment.

Thoughts?


Honestly go for the GTX 970 if you're thinking about upgrading your GPU. The GTX 960 will only be very marginally faster than your Radeon 7870 (Radeon 270x).

If power draw isn't a concern for you, then a Radeon 290 (x) or 390 (x) will offer more value in pure frame rates per dollar than a GTX 970.


I would love to go with AMD but they don't have the MGS5 promotion ;s

Unless getting a 290/390 and then buying MGS would be cheaper...
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-25 23:11:32
July 25 2015 23:10 GMT
#10282
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Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
July 26 2015 05:17 GMT
#10283
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
July 26 2015 06:10 GMT
#10284
gz :D

and dota looks kinda meh + has big lag when moving camera

i actually measured it, and they have an exponential acceleration curve when dragging camera. Set to move as fast as possible, it's about a 50 millisecond delay before significant movement starts (8 frames on 144hz)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
DreamR
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United Kingdom168 Posts
July 27 2015 02:51 GMT
#10285
i haven't upgraded my pc in like 3-4 years now, ive started pc gaming alot more and i thought its best if i do..
the only problem is i don't know much about upgrading.
my specs are:


* Motherboard: Gigabyte 78LMT-USB3 Rev 5.0 Black Edition
*CPU Type: AMD FX Quad Core
*CPU Model: AMD FX 4130 3.8ghz Quad Core 8mb Cache
*CPU Socket: AMD AM3 / AM3+
*CPU Clock Speed: 3.8 Ghz
*CPU Max Turbo Speed: 3.9 Ghz
*Memory: 8gb crucial ballistix DDR3 1600mhz Performance Ram
Hard Drive Size 1tb Western Digital WD10EZEX Sata 6Gb/s 64mb Cache 7200rpm
*Optical Drive: Samsung 24x SH-224DB/BEBE Sata DVD Writer
*Graphics Card: ATI Radeon 6450 1gb DDR3 with HDMI Hyper Memory Upto 2gb
*PSU Size: 500 Watt 12cm Fan ATX 12V V2.0 70% Efficiency Power Supply




^ i copied that from the ebay posting i bought my pc from 3-4 years ago, i am on a budget. but if you can help please do!
This game saved me from ending it.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-27 04:35:57
July 27 2015 04:35 GMT
#10286
The CPU kind of sucks, but you're not getting a huge upgrade there without replacing most of the entire thing. And you'd probably want to wait at least a month or two to do it anyway, after new products have released. For many games it's a liability but still maybe acceptable; in others, it should be just fine.

But... the HD 6450 is pretty much unusable for gaming and is by far the bigger concern. It's an old, very low-end (at the time, even) card for media consumption and just general use. This is the big problem, and you really want to upgrade the graphics card yesterday.

You may or may not have to upgrade the power supply too while you're at it, and your case may or may not have room (and the cooling) for a larger, higher-end graphics card.

Anyway, you can get a graphics card with multiple times the performance for well under £100 and probably not even have to replace anything else. What are you expecting to spend?
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-27 05:10:43
July 27 2015 05:09 GMT
#10287
If he is intent on updating his computer instead of building a new one, he can just slap on a Radeon 270x or 280x and a samsung/intel/crucial SSD. AMD FX can't compare to intel but it's still pretty usable. Not sure if he'll need a bigger power supply though.
DreamR
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United Kingdom168 Posts
July 27 2015 07:42 GMT
#10288
On July 27 2015 13:35 Myrmidon wrote:
The CPU kind of sucks, but you're not getting a huge upgrade there without replacing most of the entire thing. And you'd probably want to wait at least a month or two to do it anyway, after new products have released. For many games it's a liability but still maybe acceptable; in others, it should be just fine.

But... the HD 6450 is pretty much unusable for gaming and is by far the bigger concern. It's an old, very low-end (at the time, even) card for media consumption and just general use. This is the big problem, and you really want to upgrade the graphics card yesterday.

You may or may not have to upgrade the power supply too while you're at it, and your case may or may not have room (and the cooling) for a larger, higher-end graphics card.

Anyway, you can get a graphics card with multiple times the performance for well under £100 and probably not even have to replace anything else. What are you expecting to spend?




you sound like the guy im needing at the moment lol, i can spend between 100 - 130 ( my gf present for me :D ) anyway.. i literally no nothing about my pc apart from what it says lol.
atm im having to go 640 x 480 on csgo to get 140+ fps...

im trying to just be able upgrade it in general, if you could send me parts or something i could look at, would be great thanks?
This game saved me from ending it.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
July 27 2015 07:59 GMT
#10289
On July 27 2015 16:42 DreamR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 13:35 Myrmidon wrote:
The CPU kind of sucks, but you're not getting a huge upgrade there without replacing most of the entire thing. And you'd probably want to wait at least a month or two to do it anyway, after new products have released. For many games it's a liability but still maybe acceptable; in others, it should be just fine.

But... the HD 6450 is pretty much unusable for gaming and is by far the bigger concern. It's an old, very low-end (at the time, even) card for media consumption and just general use. This is the big problem, and you really want to upgrade the graphics card yesterday.

You may or may not have to upgrade the power supply too while you're at it, and your case may or may not have room (and the cooling) for a larger, higher-end graphics card.

Anyway, you can get a graphics card with multiple times the performance for well under £100 and probably not even have to replace anything else. What are you expecting to spend?




you sound like the guy im needing at the moment lol, i can spend between 100 - 130 ( my gf present for me :D ) anyway.. i literally no nothing about my pc apart from what it says lol.
atm im having to go 640 x 480 on csgo to get 140+ fps...

im trying to just be able upgrade it in general, if you could send me parts or something i could look at, would be great thanks?


In that range you may be able to get an r7 360 which would be a big upgrade. For a little more you could get a 750 ti
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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mantequilla
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Turkey781 Posts
July 27 2015 08:32 GMT
#10290
750ti would be better to be on the safe side with the PSU, since it draws less power. I think throw in one and see how much it changes your gaming experience if you were not satisfied than we can build a better system around that 750ti. It may suffer a bit at 1080p + high graphics but that card is a good budget performer with lower resolutions/lower details.
Age of Mythology forever!
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-27 15:24:52
July 27 2015 15:23 GMT
#10291
GTX 750 Ti, £88.37 Inc VAT
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-msi-gtx-750-ti-oc-28nm-pcie-30-(x16)-5400mhz-gddr5-gpu-1069mhz-boost-1137mhz-cores-640-vga-dvi-h


Wait that says pre-order, maybe sold out or who knows. In any case, these should be under £100, like here:
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-evga-gtx-750ti-sc-pcie-30-5400mhz-gddr5-gpu-1176mhz-boost-1255mhz-cores-640-dport-dvi-hdmi

Check around, and don't confuse it with the GTX 750 (not Ti), which is a little worse.
kungchink
Profile Joined July 2015
1 Post
Last Edited: 2015-07-27 17:28:41
July 27 2015 17:28 GMT
#10292
Bot edit.

User was banned for this post.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
July 27 2015 17:34 GMT
#10293
Wait that says pre-order, maybe sold out or who knows


It's in stock now
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
mantequilla
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Turkey781 Posts
July 28 2015 11:24 GMT
#10294
How do I convince my friends that i5 + 8gb ram + ssd + strong gpu is a stronger gaming laptop than i7 + 16gb ram + weak gpu - NO ssd?
Age of Mythology forever!
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
July 28 2015 13:48 GMT
#10295
open the same game at the same settings, record the framerates
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-28 18:22:59
July 28 2015 18:22 GMT
#10296
On July 28 2015 20:24 mantequilla wrote:
How do I convince my friends that i5 + 8gb ram + ssd + strong gpu is a stronger gaming laptop than i7 + 16gb ram + weak gpu - NO ssd?


i like 16gb ram if you need to open up some google chrome tabs but I7 has very little benefits over I5 in gaming. Weak GPU is a killer for any gaming laptop since that is likely impossible to replace or upgrade
If he can buy and put in an SSD into the gaming laptop then that point is w/e.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-28 22:42:34
July 28 2015 22:42 GMT
#10297
So I've noticed this thread recommends this CPU cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608041

I currently use Thermalright Silver Arrow IB-E. What's the difference and how do you make a decision about which one is better? Regardless of answer, I'm happy with the CPU cooler I have but I'm trying to learn how to make a decision about CPU cooler in the future.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
July 28 2015 23:21 GMT
#10298
You go to benchmarking sites and find charts where someone has used different heatsinks on the same rig. Then you factor in cost, warranty, and brand / product history (if old enough).
twitch.tv/cratonz
phipsL
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany189 Posts
July 29 2015 15:31 GMT
#10299
Hello everyone, I want to upgrade my PC so I can run GTA 5.
I'm currently running an i5-3350P CPU @ 3.1GHz, an AMD Radeon HD 7700 series and 4GB RAM, no Idea whatsoever about my motherboard though. I have no clue about PC hardware except a little about putting that stuff together but that won't be the problem. Could you guys give me some suggestions on what I need to get?
I'm a f*cking walking paradox.
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
July 29 2015 16:19 GMT
#10300
On July 30 2015 00:31 phipsL wrote:
Hello everyone, I want to upgrade my PC so I can run GTA 5.
I'm currently running an i5-3350P CPU @ 3.1GHz, an AMD Radeon HD 7700 series and 4GB RAM, no Idea whatsoever about my motherboard though. I have no clue about PC hardware except a little about putting that stuff together but that won't be the problem. Could you guys give me some suggestions on what I need to get?


Id suggest another stick of ram and a better graphics card.
GTX 970 or radeon r380/390
What is your budget?
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