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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
July 17 2015 15:26 GMT
#10201
Does your PC have a post code display/show anything on screen or make funny beeps? :o
Failure to improve posting standards will result in a lengthy ban. I <crms_> !dumb <GeoffAnderson> crmsdota <crms_> damnit
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
July 17 2015 21:56 GMT
#10202
Could be a short. My brother managed something brilliant like that once by connecting the mobo fan power cable to a mobo fan port. Frankly I was impressed that the hardware came out no worse for the wear.

Easiest way is for you just to post pictures of the internals so we can check how things are connected.

twitch.tv/cratonz
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
July 18 2015 00:53 GMT
#10203
Unfortunately I'm away for the next 24 hours, so I'll post pictures and all the parts about this time tomorrow.
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
July 18 2015 03:12 GMT
#10204
A final thing, something I heard in one of the videos I watched, is that sometimes just re-seating everything(plugging things out and plugging them back in) can do wonders. Can also help you find a silly mistake like forgetting to plug in something.
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
HewTheTitan
Profile Joined February 2015
Canada331 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-18 06:53:35
July 18 2015 03:52 GMT
#10205
Hey, I'm back. This time to build a modest gaming rig for my fiance.

She is extremely sensitive to the aesthetic and I think a small, nonblack case is important to her. I'm thinking micro itx or something similar. "I want to be able to hide the tower" she just said. Her desk is fairly tiny, it would be hard.

she's quite partial to: "Lian-Li PC-TU100A Mini ITX Tower Case" because it looks like a lunch box a bit.

edit: added monitor to budget, adjusted budget.

What is your budget?

Ideally <= $800, including select warranties (mobo) and monitor. Could go up to $1000 with warranties, but that means her tablet gets worse, so gotta be worth it, since both combined need to come in under $1200ish. CDN

I think $800 might be overkill, she's not really a gamer, just wants to play some games including team games with me.

What is your monitor's native resolution?

No monitor yet. Might get a used one. Maybe a touch screen. It must be slick, aesthetics matter to her!

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?

She wants to play some simulation games - maybe cities skylines/tropico/Sims etc. Also, her and I would like to play some team games together - probably dota/lol/heroes. I think 30fps as the very bottom is acceptable (ie, doesn't go beneath 30 ever), but it would be a lot nicer if she could get 60 of course.

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?

Internet/movies. Nothing special. She will get a tablet for portable movies/internet actually.

Do you intend to overclock?

I don't think overclocking is ideal for her, she's never owned a desktop before. The room tends to collect a lot of pet hair too, so I'm worried it'll add heat to the machine- also, might go with very small case for aesthetics, does that matter?

I'm curious what you all think. The g5238 might be a good call if it's safe for her to do.

Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?

No.

Do you need an operating system?

I guess we do, don't we? Forgot about that.

Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?

yes, monitor is part of the budget. Touch screen appeals to her a lot, and she doesn't like black.

If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.

no.

What country will you be buying your parts in?

Canada.

If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.

Memory Express is best for anything that is worth getting a warranty for, since I can get IPR and make returns very easily that way.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
July 18 2015 04:21 GMT
#10206
I'll try replugging everything and see if that works. I also am 90% sure I plugged the buttons and ports from the front of my case into the motherboard correctly, but I'll post a picture just to make sure.
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-18 06:24:30
July 18 2015 06:23 GMT
#10207
On July 18 2015 12:52 HewTheTitan wrote:
Hey, I'm back. This time to build a modest gaming rig for my fiance.

She is extremely sensitive to the aesthetic and I think a small, nonblack case is important to her. I'm thinking micro itx or something similar. "I want to be able to hide the tower" she just said. Her desk is fairly tiny, it would be hard.

edit: added monitor to budget, adjusted budget.

What is your budget?

Ideally <= $800, including select warranties (mobo) and monitor. Could go up to $1000 with warranties, but that means her tablet gets worse, so gotta be worth it, since both combined need to come in under $1200ish. CDN

I think $800 might be overkill, she's not really a gamer, just wants to play some games including team games with me.

What is your monitor's native resolution?

No monitor yet. Might get a used one. Maybe a touch screen. It must be slick, aesthetics matter to her!

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?

She wants to play some simulation games - maybe cities skylines/tropico/Sims etc. Also, her and I would like to play some team games together - probably dota/lol/heroes. I think 30fps as the very bottom is acceptable (ie, doesn't go beneath 30 ever), but it would be a lot nicer if she could get 60 of course.

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?

Internet/movies. Nothing special. She will get a tablet for portable movies/internet actually.

snip


Would this be okay for you?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/wQmd23
you can downgrade the gpu to a 750ti or the i5 to the i3 if you need to.

You can just add a case or monitor of your choice.
HewTheTitan
Profile Joined February 2015
Canada331 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-18 07:01:58
July 18 2015 06:58 GMT
#10208
I like the build, it's similar to mine actually, but in CDN it bumps up to $795.81 and that's without a case, a monitor, warranties, or windows. Before the monitor comes into the picture, looks like about $1000 already, which I think is over budget atm.

Man I wish I lived in the states sometimes. At least when it comes time to buy computer hardware

Downgrading from that build in various places... what about the r7 260x? How does it compare to the 750ti?

Here's what I have, roughly - can you comment/critique? Some of these are slightly cheaper options than you suggested, but I don't know what tradeoffs that involves.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor ($136.50 @ shopRBC)
Motherboard: ASRock H81M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($68.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: G.Skill Value 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($55.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($104.98 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($154.25 @ Vuugo)
Case: Lian-Li PC-TU100A Mini ITX Tower Case ($129.00 @ shopRBC)
Power Supply: Silverstone 450W 80+ Bronze Certified SFX Power Supply ($76.74 @ DirectCanada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($109.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $836.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-18 02:57 EDT-0400

(Her current HD is 260GB full, maybe the smaller SSD + cheap HD is the way to go...)
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
July 18 2015 09:07 GMT
#10209
On July 18 2015 15:58 HewTheTitan wrote:
I like the build, it's similar to mine actually, but in CDN it bumps up to $795.81 and that's without a case, a monitor, warranties, or windows. Before the monitor comes into the picture, looks like about $1000 already, which I think is over budget atm.

Man I wish I lived in the states sometimes. At least when it comes time to buy computer hardware

Downgrading from that build in various places... what about the r7 260x? How does it compare to the 750ti?

Here's what I have, roughly - can you comment/critique? Some of these are slightly cheaper options than you suggested, but I don't know what tradeoffs that involves.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor ($136.50 @ shopRBC)
Motherboard: ASRock H81M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($68.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: G.Skill Value 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($55.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($104.98 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($154.25 @ Vuugo)
Case: Lian-Li PC-TU100A Mini ITX Tower Case ($129.00 @ shopRBC)
Power Supply: Silverstone 450W 80+ Bronze Certified SFX Power Supply ($76.74 @ DirectCanada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($109.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $836.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-18 02:57 EDT-0400

(Her current HD is 260GB full, maybe the smaller SSD + cheap HD is the way to go...)


260x and 750ti are pretty much in the same tier.
I only refrained from picking AMD cause i thought it would be more expensive in places outside of the US as it normally is for some odd reason. I guess its the same price in canada.

Anyways, I3 and I5 shouldn't give too much of a difference based on what your gf needs to do so it's a perfectly fine downgrade. A bit slower but doesn't look like she would absolutely need the extra speed anyways.
Anyways, the build looks fine except you'll probably need the smaller ssd and 1tb hdd. I assume that she hasmovies and shows and such so the 1tb should be good to hold all of her media files.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-18 10:12:01
July 18 2015 10:06 GMT
#10210
On July 18 2015 15:58 HewTheTitan wrote:
I like the build, it's similar to mine actually, but in CDN it bumps up to $795.81 and that's without a case, a monitor, warranties, or windows. Before the monitor comes into the picture, looks like about $1000 already, which I think is over budget atm.

Man I wish I lived in the states sometimes. At least when it comes time to buy computer hardware

Downgrading from that build in various places... what about the r7 260x? How does it compare to the 750ti?

Here's what I have, roughly - can you comment/critique? Some of these are slightly cheaper options than you suggested, but I don't know what tradeoffs that involves.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor ($136.50 @ shopRBC)
Motherboard: ASRock H81M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($68.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: G.Skill Value 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($55.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($104.98 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($154.25 @ Vuugo)
Case: Lian-Li PC-TU100A Mini ITX Tower Case ($129.00 @ shopRBC)
Power Supply: Silverstone 450W 80+ Bronze Certified SFX Power Supply ($76.74 @ DirectCanada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($109.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $836.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-18 02:57 EDT-0400

(Her current HD is 260GB full, maybe the smaller SSD + cheap HD is the way to go...)


There are some cases for prebuilt computers here: http://www.cclonline.com/category/202/Desktop-PCs/Desktop-PCs/All-CCL-Desktops/pricerange-800-99999/attributeslist/1175003/

Just in case you want to reconsider the case you've chosen.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
July 18 2015 16:26 GMT
#10211
On July 17 2015 12:32 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
Why do you want to upgrade? What do you want to achieve with the upgrade? I want to upgrade the computer's graphics card sometime in the next year.


Come back next year then

GPU market changes a lot

2x 290 or Fury / FuryX is doable on a 650w PSU if it's good and has four pci-e power connectors, but can't OC them and it's not particularly wise. Near stock you'd see power figures like 240-280w per card under load.

Hmm, I'll wait a year then.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Hwotk
Profile Joined October 2011
32 Posts
July 18 2015 21:04 GMT
#10212
Hey guys

So i'm gonna buy new pc next month and this new offer cought my eye, what i want is -the best mobo cpu and ram as those are hardest for me to swap for new parts, i want to get ok'ish GPU to go allong with it to play starcraft at highiest settings, League, and will propably swap it for some monster gpu that will come out in 2016 to play some other more demanding 3d games in the future.

So this cought my eye

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-102-OG&groupid=43&catid=2475&subcat=2489

any thoughts ?? i've heard its not worth buying 59xx+ line cpu's with ddr4 atm would that be true if i dont do any encoding/editing etc ??

I'm also looking to buy a gaming laptop to mainly play league and starcraft 2 for my girlfriend.. any reccomendations ( i will 99 % order it from overclockers.co.uk too)
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-18 23:18:23
July 18 2015 23:17 GMT
#10213
On July 19 2015 06:04 Hwotk wrote:
Hey guys

So i'm gonna buy new pc next month and this new offer cought my eye, what i want is -the best mobo cpu and ram as those are hardest for me to swap for new parts, i want to get ok'ish GPU to go allong with it to play starcraft at highiest settings, League, and will propably swap it for some monster gpu that will come out in 2016 to play some other more demanding 3d games in the future.

So this cought my eye

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-102-OG&groupid=43&catid=2475&subcat=2489

any thoughts ?? i've heard its not worth buying 59xx+ line cpu's with ddr4 atm would that be true if i dont do any encoding/editing etc ??

I'm also looking to buy a gaming laptop to mainly play league and starcraft 2 for my girlfriend.. any reccomendations ( i will 99 % order it from overclockers.co.uk too)


You can save more than 200 GBP if you build it yourself. You also have the chance to pick better components such as GPU.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
July 19 2015 17:11 GMT
#10214
http://imgur.com/a/jQhry
All that happens when I press power is that the system fan and its LED comes on for about half a second, then the CPU fan turns slightly, then everything shuts off
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Bounty
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany35 Posts
July 19 2015 17:35 GMT
#10215
On July 20 2015 02:11 plasmidghost wrote:
http://imgur.com/a/jQhry
All that happens when I press power is that the system fan and its LED comes on for about half a second, then the CPU fan turns slightly, then everything shuts off

I am far from an expert, but I had these exact symptoms on an old PC of mine just a few weeks ago and they were due to a defective power supply. A new power supply fixed the issues, although in my case the old one was more than 10 years old.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
July 19 2015 17:49 GMT
#10216
On July 20 2015 02:35 Bounty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2015 02:11 plasmidghost wrote:
http://imgur.com/a/jQhry
All that happens when I press power is that the system fan and its LED comes on for about half a second, then the CPU fan turns slightly, then everything shuts off

I am far from an expert, but I had these exact symptoms on an old PC of mine just a few weeks ago and they were due to a defective power supply. A new power supply fixed the issues, although in my case the old one was more than 10 years old.

I hope it's not that, this is brand new. At the very least, though, it can be returned if that's the case.
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-19 18:01:40
July 19 2015 18:00 GMT
#10217
On July 20 2015 02:11 plasmidghost wrote:
http://imgur.com/a/jQhry
All that happens when I press power is that the system fan and its LED comes on for about half a second, then the CPU fan turns slightly, then everything shuts off


Does the mobo post? this happened to my old computer whose mobo is dead
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-19 18:28:28
July 19 2015 18:14 GMT
#10218
On the motherboard, there's a 4-pin (2x2) ATX 12V plug spot that I don't have connected, but I don't have a plug for it. I do have 2 2-pin plugs and an 8-pin plug. Would either of those work, and could this be the problem?
Exit: I figured out you can split the 2x4 into 2 2x2s
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
July 19 2015 18:39 GMT
#10219
On July 20 2015 03:14 plasmidghost wrote:
On the motherboard, there's a 4-pin (2x2) ATX 12V plug spot that I don't have connected, but I don't have a plug for it. I do have 2 2-pin plugs and an 8-pin plug. Would either of those work, and could this be the problem?
Exit: I figured out you can split the 2x4 into 2 2x2s


Yeah, that to me would probably be the problem.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
July 19 2015 18:40 GMT
#10220
Okay, the computer itself is working fine. I put in the Windows install disc, and nothing's appearing on my monitor. What would be the cause of that?
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
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