EPTEDIT: First post from my new freshly assembled computer :D
All I'm waiting for now is the VGA to DVI converter to see if that works when I plug in my graphics card. Thanks for all the help guys!
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B.I.G.
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EDIT: First post from my new freshly assembled computer :D All I'm waiting for now is the VGA to DVI converter to see if that works when I plug in my graphics card. Thanks for all the help guys! | ||
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3FFA
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Cyro
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B.I.G.
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IceHism
United States1903 Posts
Do you have any opinions on getting a Xeon as a cheaper alternative to the I7 when you don't want to overclock? If you're going to get a dedicated gpu for gaming, the integrated graphics would be a bit wasted wouldn't it... It seems like esports games aren't likely to be reprogrammed so they will utilize DX12's integrated + dedicated usage. On July 17 2015 03:20 B.I.G. wrote: thank you thank you ^^, while I'm still somewhat of a damsel in distress, do you guys have any suggestions for tools or w/e that I can use to monitor cpu temp, voltage etc while in windows or in whatever program? I would feel more comfortable with some kind of way to check that nothing is melting down without me noticing... There are tons Speccy cpu-z speedfan etc. Just getting like 1 or 2 of them is fine. Also, you can monitor temps and even adjust fan speed using the software that goes along with your motherboard (if you choose to install it) | ||
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B.I.G.
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IceHism
United States1903 Posts
On July 17 2015 03:43 B.I.G. wrote: Yeah I'm actually hoping to use the one that came with my mobo but i have no clue where i can find it (i have a gigabyte z97x ud3h).. Did your mobo come with a CD? It should have drivers and software on it. Well mine did so I assume other brands have something like that as well. Also, you can probably just find it by going on gigabyte's website and searching for your exact model. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
On July 17 2015 03:20 B.I.G. wrote: thank you thank you ^^, while I'm still somewhat of a damsel in distress, do you guys have any suggestions for tools or w/e that I can use to monitor cpu temp, voltage etc while in windows or in whatever program? I would feel more comfortable with some kind of way to check that nothing is melting down without me noticing... www.hwinfo.com gpu-z / msi afterburner @Cyro Do you have any opinions on getting a Xeon as a cheaper alternative to the I7 when you don't want to overclock? -If- you want hyperthreading, it can be cheaper | ||
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Geiko
France1944 Posts
-MSI - Z97 GAMING 5 -Intel - Core i5 4690K -MSI - GeForce GTX 980 Gaming Twin Frozr V - 4 Go -Corsair - Vengeance Low Profile 2 x 8 Go PC12800 CAS 10 -Kingston - HyperX Fury SSD Series - 240 Go -Seagate - Barracuda - 2 To SATA 6 Gb/s -Cooler Master - G650M -Be Quiet! - Pure Rock What's the bottleneck for this build, where do I need to spend less, and where do I need to spend more ? | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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mantequilla
Turkey781 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
I didn't know I needed an adapter to store my SSD properly You want one, don't need one  some cases have places to put a 2.5" drive, others you can tie/velcro it somewhere or even just leave it hanging if you're not moving the system. Usually a 3.5" to 2.5" bay adapter is not really needed, though some people use them What's the bottleneck for this build, where do I need to spend less, and where do I need to spend more ? Depends on the game, graphics settings, resolution and FPS targets, as well as what you're doing in the game etc. "Bottleneck" changes alll of the time and it's not something that you can just assess from a specs list. CPU tends to be important for maintaining FPS that you want, while GPU lets you turn up resolution and most graphics settings. Most CPU bound games don't scale well (or even at all) onto >4 cores though, so nothing available really faster than a 4690k (until next gen in 3 weeks) you're probably better off with a 970 (to save money) or a 980ti (to have a card near flagship performance). The 980 has had some price drops but it's still probably at a bit of an awkward price point? It's probably in practice a bit under 20% faster than a 970 at the same clock speed, with 14.1% more VRAM usable. roughly, 970 >> 980 >>>> 980ti. Ununtuitive but aparantly nobody wants easily understood hardware names you should probably get faster RAM since some games including sc2 benefit from it ~ 2133c9 or 2400c10 for example | ||
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felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
On July 17 2015 10:16 Cyro wrote: roughly, 970 >> 980 >>>> 980ti. Ununtuitive but aparantly nobody wants easily understood hardware names Easily understood hardware names makes it more difficult to re-brand last year's chips with modified boards or bios and claim it's the next revolution in gaming performance. | ||
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Kupon3ss
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
On July 17 2015 10:55 Kupon3ss wrote: The 390x does actually perform like 10% better hue There are a few things playing into that: 1; They handicapped drivers for 200 series, even though the silicon used is the same - magically raising tesselation performance for the rebranded GPU's during review time, but not the old ones in the same driver vers. 2; raised clock speeds out of the box (more "factory OC", just using some of the OC headroom that people already had) 3; more likely to maintain higher clockspeeds at stock due to some under the hood magic with power management 4; better VRAM on average overall, it's better - but nowhere near enough to be called 390x, IMO. 290 still beats it price/performance and is within about ~10% for OC vs OC performance. | ||
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Craton
United States17277 Posts
On July 17 2015 09:52 plasmidghost wrote: I thought I had all the parts for my PC, and sure enough, I was forgetting one. I didn't know I needed an adapter to store my SSD properly, and now I have to go find one Just let it sit on the floor of the case for now and get something like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16848035577 (velcro that adheres one side to case, one side to SSD). I've had my SSDs mounted on the back of motherboard tray for a few years now and have moved twice since then with no issues, still holding on strong. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25558 Posts
What is your current build? My current build: CPU: i5-4690k GPU: MSI R9 280x HSF: CM 212 Evo Memory: Vulcan 2x8 1600 Motherboard: ASRock Z97 "Fatal1ty Killer" SSD: Samsung 840 Evo 240gb HD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB Case: Rosewill Thor V2 PSU: Corsair RM 650 What is your monitor's native resolution? Three monitors. The main one is Dell U2312M (1920x1200@60hz) -- games happen here. Secondary monitor is Dell 2407WFPb (1680x1050@60hz) -- typically vertical rather than horizontal Third monitor is an ancient Viewsonic that supports DVI (1280x1024) Why do you want to upgrade? What do you want to achieve with the upgrade? I want to upgrade the computer's graphics card sometime in the next year. The R9 280x is great, but I bought it used from a friend, and it's started to develop some problems. I plan to move it to another computer and get something better for this. I'd like to have enough muscle to do stuff like run Witcher III on high or ultra settings, play a game stretched across three monitors, or play games at 144hz in the future when I upgrade monitors, so I'm willing to move beyond normal ranges of price-performance. What is your budget? ~$600. I'll spend more on a GPU if I need to, but I was hoping to keep this in that range. Power budget might be more important, since I've only got a 650W PSU, crossfiring two power-hungry ATI GPUs might not be possible. What country will you be buying your parts in? USA If you have any brand or retailer preferences, please specify. Not really. If it doesn't make a big difference, I'd rather not have to uninstall and reinstall gfx drivers, but I'm fine switching to nvidia. So the big thing is, I'm fine. I don't need to do this now. I'll wait a year or whatever if needed, if there are new cards coming out for example. Should I be waiting around for a new generation from the manufacturers? Would that be a good strategy? Or will it be a while and should I just take what I can get now? Simply adding another R9 280X wouldn't do since this one is having problems. 2x R9 290 would probably draw too much power (it says they need 375W each >.>) so I'm not really sure what the strategy is here. Any thoughts? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Why do you want to upgrade? What do you want to achieve with the upgrade? I want to upgrade the computer's graphics card sometime in the next year. Come back next year then GPU market changes a lot 2x 290 or Fury / FuryX is doable on a 650w PSU if it's good and has four pci-e power connectors, but can't OC them and it's not particularly wise. Near stock you'd see power figures like 240-280w per card under load. | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
On July 17 2015 14:15 plasmidghost wrote: I finally have everything put together, I go turn it on and the fans come on for half a second, then everything stops. What could I have done wrong? Maybe you forgot one of the CPU power connections | ||
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