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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-04 10:35:36
June 04 2015 10:33 GMT
#9921
On June 04 2015 19:23 FFGenerations wrote:
i turned motion blur off coz it looks way too blurry but maybe ill try it again, i wasnt sure if it was supposed to be just a preference option. maybe theres a way to reduce it even more in twitcher
oh twitcher has motion blur (everything is blurred like crazy) + blur (i probably have this on)


That's added motion blur. It's very extreme though in twitcher3, but then again they have it on for the consoles which dip to like 20fps and are capped at 30fps

The simple act of having low FPS (well, any FPS really - but it's very visible when comparing high fps vs low) and/or a low refresh rate monitor creates motion blur because of the way they present images vs the way that our eyes track moving images
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-04 12:45:41
June 04 2015 12:37 GMT
#9922
the cost of developing "super detailed" games must only be rising right, now we have the technology for it? because "filling in" that detail comes down to art developers rather than technology. like you want super detailed textures on everything then u need more artists to draw them. like looking at some screenshots of twitcher you can see the mcs' textures are incredible but the npc textures/clothing are really shit/basic because they didn't pay artists to create them ("modders will do this for us")
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-04 12:55:20
June 04 2015 12:54 GMT
#9923
the cost of developing "super detailed" games must only be rising right, now we have the technology for it? because "filling in" that detail comes down to art developers rather than technology


For some things, yes. There are a lot of ways to improve the game world and experience though without that much artist time.

Also see here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/tessellation.html
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Herfelt
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark89 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-04 16:20:11
June 04 2015 16:15 GMT
#9924
Hello TL

I need some help picking a PSU and a motherboard. I'm aiming for a ~$800 build.

Processor: Intel Core i5-4460

Video card: GeForce GTX 750Ti

RAM: HyperX Fury DDR3 1600MHz 8GB (2x4GB)
- Is 8 GB sufficient or should I aim for 16 GB?

Harddrive: Seagate Barracuda 1 TB HDD SATA 6 Gb/s

SSD: HyperX Fury SSD 120GB 2,5"

Case: Corsair Graphite 230T Midi Tower

Power: ???
- Is a "Cooler Master B500 ver.2" sufficient?

Motherboard: ???
- ASUS B85M-G? Or do I need a better one?

Suggestions to the build are welcome.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
June 04 2015 16:29 GMT
#9925
4GB has become quite limiting in the last 4-5 years but 8GB is fine, especially if you have a motherboard with 4 RAM slots and use a 2x4GB kit (so can use 16GB in the future if you want more RAM without a system upgrade/change)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
June 04 2015 16:41 GMT
#9926
On June 04 2015 16:57 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
any improvement in the Intel GPU performance is irrelevant since I'm getting a dedicated GPU anyway


You're missing the bigger picture there if the iGPU is now faster than an M370x.


Are we living in the same universe here? How on earth is Skylake's iGPU going to be faster than a high end dedicated graphics card?
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-04 16:59:42
June 04 2015 16:53 GMT
#9927
On June 05 2015 01:41 writer22816 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2015 16:57 Cyro wrote:
any improvement in the Intel GPU performance is irrelevant since I'm getting a dedicated GPU anyway


You're missing the bigger picture there if the iGPU is now faster than an M370x.


Are we living in the same universe here? How on earth is Skylake's iGPU going to be faster than a high end dedicated graphics card?


We are indeed living in the same universe, but that universe is one where you are confused by AMD's (and nvidia's) misleading naming schemes for laptop graphics.

An r9 290 tri-x costs about $250 and is around five to six times faster than an M370X when overclocked moderately on air.

That's not cutting edge high end any more - The pricing reflects that, as does Nvidia's (and AMD's card to be announced/released in under 2 weeks supposedly) being a solid 1.5x faster.

-----

Broadwell and Skylake's iGPU's are nowhere near high end dedicated GPU's - but an m370x is nowhere remotely close to even an upper midrange desktop GPU now.

Suddenly iGPU is a significant threat to low end desktop graphics or anything equivalent on laptop (most of the lineup, actually - look for comparisons against a gtx750 or 260x, at least)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Herfelt
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark89 Posts
June 04 2015 16:59 GMT
#9928
On June 05 2015 01:29 Cyro wrote:
4GB has become quite limiting in the last 4-5 years but 8GB is fine, especially if you have a motherboard with 4 RAM slots and use a 2x4GB kit (so can use 16GB in the future if you want more RAM without a system upgrade/change)
Ill stick to the 8GB then. Do you have any suggestions on motherboard or power supply?
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
June 04 2015 17:03 GMT
#9929
On June 05 2015 01:53 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2015 01:41 writer22816 wrote:
On June 04 2015 16:57 Cyro wrote:
any improvement in the Intel GPU performance is irrelevant since I'm getting a dedicated GPU anyway


You're missing the bigger picture there if the iGPU is now faster than an M370x.


Are we living in the same universe here? How on earth is Skylake's iGPU going to be faster than a high end dedicated graphics card?


We are indeed living in the same universe, but that universe is one where you are confused by AMD's (and nvidia's) misleading naming schemes for laptop graphics.

An r9 290 tri-x costs about $250 and is around five to six times faster than an M370X when overclocked moderately on air.

That's not cutting edge high end any more - The pricing reflects that, as does Nvidia's (and AMD's card to be announced/released in under 2 weeks supposedly) being a solid 1.5x faster.

-----

Broadwell and Skylake's iGPU's are nowhere near high end dedicated GPU's - but an m370x is nowhere remotely close to even an upper midrange desktop GPU now.

Suddenly iGPU is a significant threat to low end desktop graphics or anything equivalent on laptop (most of the lineup, actually - look for comparisons against a gtx750 or 260x, at least)


Thanks for the explanation, I had no idea. I'll be keeping my eyes posted on benchmarks in the future before making a buying decision then.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
June 04 2015 17:07 GMT
#9930
On June 05 2015 01:59 Herfelt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2015 01:29 Cyro wrote:
4GB has become quite limiting in the last 4-5 years but 8GB is fine, especially if you have a motherboard with 4 RAM slots and use a 2x4GB kit (so can use 16GB in the future if you want more RAM without a system upgrade/change)
Ill stick to the 8GB then. Do you have any suggestions on motherboard or power supply?


unfortunately no depends a bit on what you want to do with the system in the future though (future GPU's etc)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Thaniri
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1264 Posts
June 04 2015 17:57 GMT
#9931
i5 4690k, asus z97-a. Default overclock settings in bios seem to be 4.4ghz.

Getting bsod 0x0124, tried every solution so far except for increasing vcore, because I don't know how to. Which overclocking guide should I follow to get this right?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
June 04 2015 18:10 GMT
#9932
http://www.overclock.net/t/1411077/haswell-overclocking-guide-with-statistics

Just reset to default and go from the ground up, it's much easier.

A good starting place is setting cache to 33x with 1.15v

input voltage (vccin) eventual (and initial?) 1.85 with max LLC

vcore 1.2

core clock = 4ghz

that stuff is easy to get working and adjust from.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
June 04 2015 19:25 GMT
#9933
Just got my BenQ 2411Z

daaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmn, everything is so clear and smooth
maru lover forever
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
June 04 2015 20:00 GMT
#9934
welcome to the club

we have cookies and icecream
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
June 04 2015 20:13 GMT
#9935
On June 05 2015 01:15 Herfelt wrote:
Hello TL

I need some help picking a PSU and a motherboard. I'm aiming for a ~$800 build.

Processor: Intel Core i5-4460

Video card: GeForce GTX 750Ti

RAM: HyperX Fury DDR3 1600MHz 8GB (2x4GB)
- Is 8 GB sufficient or should I aim for 16 GB?

Harddrive: Seagate Barracuda 1 TB HDD SATA 6 Gb/s

SSD: HyperX Fury SSD 120GB 2,5"

Case: Corsair Graphite 230T Midi Tower

Power: ???
- Is a "Cooler Master B500 ver.2" sufficient?

Motherboard: ???
- ASUS B85M-G? Or do I need a better one?

Suggestions to the build are welcome.


ew 750 Ti ew that's like Skylake iGPU level performance =p

like i'd rather ditch the hard drive and get a 290 or at least a 280x or something. under GTX 970 nvidia really isn't worth it
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
June 04 2015 21:22 GMT
#9936
750ti is alright, a 280 or 960 is better
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Thaniri
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1264 Posts
June 04 2015 21:26 GMT
#9937
My cpu didnt crash under 30 minutes of prime95 stress testing. Thanks for your help.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
June 04 2015 21:28 GMT
#9938
You.. also shouldn't use prime np
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
June 05 2015 09:15 GMT
#9939
i put some screenshots in my blog if ur interested (more recently i just put a gif of crysis) http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/486856-pix-modern-game-graphics
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Airestyx
Profile Joined October 2011
United States44 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-05 15:12:49
June 05 2015 15:03 GMT
#9940
Hello all, my brother's graphics card just died on him so we are obviously looking into a replacement. With a price range of around 200 being what we want to spend, which card would be a better value a GTX 960, a R9 280, R9 280x, or R9 285? This is nothing fancy just 1080p gaming so I figured there isn't a real benefit going up in terms of graphics cards based on the games that he plays.

Thank you in advanced for any input.
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