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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
mantequilla
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Turkey781 Posts
June 01 2015 20:12 GMT
#9881
The critical question is, does the Witcher 3 force minimum 4 cores like some recent games? (DA:I and farCry4) E8400 is dual core right?

by the way did you play witcher 1&2?
Age of Mythology forever!
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-01 20:21:53
June 01 2015 20:16 GMT
#9882
I don't think it does, but since the min requirement is a 2500k (2'nd gen core, 4 cores@3.3ghz+turbo) it would be quite silly to expect a stock e8400 to run it
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-01 20:28:09
June 01 2015 20:25 GMT
#9883
as far as I know an e8400 with a decent gpu *will* run the game but that's stretching the hardware to its limits and the experience will be worse than even an xbox1

you will likely need to overclock the processor to at least 3.5 for it to manage 30 fps
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-02 00:47:53
June 02 2015 00:39 GMT
#9884
i tried twitcher 2 at one point and couldnt run the start of it on high without drops to 15fps (or much less) . probably same setup as i have now

i dont think i can clock to 3.5 maybe 3.3 max not sure

ive never owned an xbox 1 so it would still be a step up :/

nor an xbox 360 / whatever generation that was

rly they force u to have 4 cores or u cant play DA origins? thats stupid i would have tried out that game if it didnt look annoying
. i reemmber crysis 4 forces u to have dx11 , i was gonna play that
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Divine-Sneaker
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1225 Posts
June 02 2015 01:19 GMT
#9885
He meant Dragon Age: Inquisition, which is DA 3, whereas Origins is the first installment. Pretty significant change in performance requirement between those two.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-02 04:56:17
June 02 2015 04:46 GMT
#9886
Microsoft has also changed how updates will work with Windows 10. Although the Pro and Enterprise editions will both be able to defer updates, Windows 10 Home users will not have the option. Updates will instead be downloaded and installed automatically as soon as they're available.


LOL

forces u to have dx11 , i was gonna play that


Well, if they use dx11 it won't have dx9 support without them explicitly doing quite a lot of work to add it (with less performance and features than dx11)~ at this point dx11 is 6 years old, which is an eternity in hardware/software time
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
June 02 2015 04:54 GMT
#9887
I wonder if that comes complete with incessant queries to restart.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
June 02 2015 04:56 GMT
#9888
On June 02 2015 13:54 Craton wrote:
I wonder if that comes complete with incessant queries to restart.


Knowing microsoft it'll be more like RESTARTING YOUR PC KTHX
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-02 06:54:35
June 02 2015 06:53 GMT
#9889
nope it wont, it has some fixed schedule to restart but u ll be able to postpone it and restart at your own convenience

*u ve a menu on the bottom left with a reminder thingy to tell u when and ask if it should proceed at that given time or postpone.

its like no big deal at all
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
June 02 2015 07:13 GMT
#9890
I prefer an OS to not use resources like that without permission, putting that stuff behind a paywall is just annoying
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-02 08:07:50
June 02 2015 07:17 GMT
#9891
yeah my bad i meant DA3

i am trying out 3.4ghz at what i think is a crazy low voltage since i literally snapped off some of my fans not long ago coz they started getting so noisy (like as loud as a vacuum cleaner r o f l)

card shud come today lol :D

im maxing at 69 celcius in dota which is fine
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F0nze
Profile Joined March 2015
United States26 Posts
June 02 2015 07:36 GMT
#9892
So let's say I want to build the "gamer enthusiast" computer,
I just buy each item one by one and put it all together in the end?
Like... every paycheck, buy one more component till I have the wh0le thinG?
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
June 02 2015 08:10 GMT
#9893
u can if ur upgrading a machine bit by bit and make sure everything is gonna be compatible

like i will buy this graphics card then in 6 months hopefully buy a new mobo and cpu

obviously theres no point buying things 1 by 1 if you wont be able to use them . since u can just wait the 6 months and get a more technologically advanced thing
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-02 09:58:15
June 02 2015 09:51 GMT
#9894
Yea if you already have something, you can iterate over time. If you're starting fresh, having a motherboard or a CPU or RAM are all useless without eachother. It's better to save and buy it all at once, or at least the shell of your system.

You might already have a usable screen, even if it's not as good as one you want to buy. You can always switch screens later when buying a good one.

If you want to drop in a graphics card after using system for a while, you can do that easily.

Want to start with just a 128/256GB SSD and drop in a hard drive later? easy

it's pointless to buy stuff that's useless to you at the time though. You can leave a few specific parts out and add them in later, but when buying fresh it's best not to order until the things that you're ordering will actually fit together and run as soon as they arrive at your house.

im maxing at 69 celcius in dota which is fine


I have not done c2d overclocking so i don't know what good temperatures are, but that temp won't be the max you see:

dota 2 is pretty light CPU stress, even if CPU bound it won't pin both cores to 100% like many programs will, it also might not use all instruction sets on the CPU or load the CPU in a certain way so that it could be cooler than other programs

your case temperature might increase over time with system load, particularly if you don't have great case airflow. That can inflate temps

when your room temperature goes up 5c, so will your CPU temperature

etc
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-02 13:24:23
June 02 2015 11:44 GMT
#9895
ok preliminary question while i see if this is working

my PSU is corsair 650w tx or some shit
its obviously pretty old

the plug points to plug into graphics card have 4 parts to them then there is a separate 2 parts part

my old graphics card only needed 4 parts (x2)

the new one needs 6 parts (x2)

i tried plugging in the 4+2 (x2) but its almost as if it wasn't designed to be plugged in like that, i had to sort of force them and they aren't in the whole way

do modern PSUs come with 6 part graphics card plugs or the same 4+2 thing?

my pc says its using onboard graphics atm so i'm guessing it isnt plugged in properly

OH WTF IT SAYS RADOEN R9 LOL

I CANT BELIEVE IT ACTUALY FUCKING WORKED

ITS LIKE IF SOMEONE WHO TRIES TO PLUG USB INTO ETHERNET SLOT BY ACCIDENT IS FORCING THESE SHITTY 10 YR OLD CABLES THAT DONT EVEN BEGIN TO FIT IN LIKE A RETARD AND IT ACTUALLY WORKED

i just loaded twitcher 3

[image loading]

this is just fucked up holy shit

[image loading]

ive never seen anything like it in my life lol


LOL i was admiring the surroundings so much i literally walked my horse into this little boy and he said OW

so it runs at like 25-31 fps on ultra (with dynamic hair disabled and shadows on high), to me that is "normal" fps tho, i was surprised to see it is so low. it jumps to like 40 on medium but i prefer ultra. my cpu hit 86 Celsius so i downclocked a little incase it melts, its at 83 right now so i might downclock some more
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{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
June 02 2015 14:07 GMT
#9896
even with my half decent rig the game feels sluggish in some moments and certain weathers make it worse :x
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
June 02 2015 14:44 GMT
#9897
You should have pci-e power connectors on your PSU, 6+2 pins.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-02 15:23:03
June 02 2015 15:10 GMT
#9898
Some of the unlocked broadwell CPU (with iris pro) reviews are out. Looking GOOD!

good IPC bump, great igpu

[image loading]
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
June 02 2015 15:11 GMT
#9899
i am probs around 28 fps with mostly ultra settings (no idea what fps in combat) which is fine for me

my psu pci-e power connectors are 4+2 ones and i had to jam the 2s in to get them to fit lol

i hit 92 celcius on my cpu apparently so will be declocking even more
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
June 02 2015 15:12 GMT
#9900
so yes somehow the game does run on an 7 year old processor because that's how hilariously underpowered the AMD Jaguar CPUs are in the modern consoles.
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