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mantequilla
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Turkey781 Posts
May 31 2015 13:10 GMT
#9861
Yea installed windows and it's working now. thx again!
Age of Mythology forever!
Gofarman
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada648 Posts
May 31 2015 17:25 GMT
#9862
Do you guys have a recommendation for solid MOBO? I'd like to be able to overclock and have a bit of future proofing in case I need to upgrade for better streaming quality. (I've done all my builds with a friend in the past and he's gone moved away) with my budget ~1k USD a good target is ~300$ for the MOBO?
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 28 2015 04:36 Gofarman wrote:
What is your budget?
1200CAD (1000USD)

What is your monitor's native resolution?
1920x1080

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
Starcraft medium mostly (Shadow of mordor, Skyrim.)

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
Internet and streaming (finally have good enough upload)

Do you intend to overclock?
Yes

Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No

Do you need an operating system?
No

Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
No (Maybe a capture card is the way to go instead of all internal?)

If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
N/a

What country will you be buying your parts in?
Canada

If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
Memory express will post the CPU to a Mobo if you buy through them, all my past builds have used them.

Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
May 31 2015 17:48 GMT
#9863
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz97xgaming5 or wait for skylake

there's some decent stuff $20 cheaper
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-31 22:52:43
May 31 2015 22:45 GMT
#9864
Did someone price Crucial M550 that high on purpose? Why is it so expensive?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-CT1024M550SSD1-Internal-Solid-State/dp/B00IRRDHW6/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1433112265&sr=8-3-fkmr1&keywords=crucial mx550 1tb
Gofarman
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada648 Posts
June 01 2015 01:56 GMT
#9865
Ok, this is my current build. With pricematching (10% of difference) at MemExpress my total (with tax) is coming to 1290. Any blatant flaws or cheaper equivalents?
PartPicker
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-01 08:37:39
June 01 2015 08:32 GMT
#9866
@darkness it's not amazon listing price, it's a third party. They do crazy stuff like £700 displayport cables all the time

@Gofarman some faster RAM maybe. I don't know the quality of the SSD or PSU nor exact details of that EVA gpu cooler, but my default 970 recommendation is the msi gaming edition. You're missing a cooler ;p

---------------

980ti is officially official now. Looks like they kept all cache/ROP's/memorycontrollers intact and only cut SMM's. They cut 24 to 22, so only an 8.334% loss. That could present as a 5% or even lower performance difference vs Titan X, having 6GB of VRAM too.

290x vs 290 is a similar situation with marginally more cores cut - but even that equates to often only a 3 - 4.5% performance difference when they're clocked the same. That's very very small, it's not even like 670 vs 680 or 7950 vs 7970 gap. It's too small to even worry about unless you're buying the card for benchmarking.

To compare 780/780ti vs 980ti/TitanX.. they all have all memory, ROP's etc.
780 has 80% of the core clusters of 780ti~
980ti has 91.67% of the core clusters of Titan X. Less than half of the difference.



Seems to have maybe even marginally better price/performance than 980, which is a surprise to me. Coming 8.5 months after 970/980, my opinion now is that i'm an idiot and should have waited (or just stuck with 970) but i was pretty sure that was going to happen since a long time ago

Gsync now works without needing an application in exclusive fullscreen, which is nice.

and optimizations and bug fixes which can provide increased performance for Kepler-based GPUs.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Divine-Sneaker
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1225 Posts
June 01 2015 09:55 GMT
#9867
I was unable to find any notes on an nvidia patch I got last night, was that one supposed to be the fix to kepler units underperforming?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
June 01 2015 10:02 GMT
#9868
yes
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Divine-Sneaker
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1225 Posts
June 01 2015 10:30 GMT
#9869
Yeah, as I quickly realized there was a ton of updates on that patch released during what was my nighttime.

Thanks for the quick answer regardless.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-01 13:34:36
June 01 2015 13:32 GMT
#9870
hi again tech guyz

i can't run twitcher 3 , it just tries to load for 0.5 second then nothing happens

i tried verifiying steam cache, updating graphics driver, and forcing to directx11 using windows 8 sdk trick

i guess i need new graphics card, although this one works amazingly (ran crysis, dota, gta3, skyrm with 80 mods etc) and i can't see how anything can be worth the money it'll cost in upgrading.....

so lets say i have £100-150 range to spend on a card (preferably lower side but always optimal choice)

here are my specs


Radeon HD 4800
Intel Duo E8400 3ghz
4 gb ram
P5K motherboard


i can't get any more info on the motherboard , i guess i have to look at it physically? i guess knowing my motherboard exactly would be SUPER important because it might not be able to have modern cards installed on it or something?? let me know if u need more info

what card should i get?
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-01 13:45:34
June 01 2015 13:41 GMT
#9871
On June 01 2015 22:32 FFGenerations wrote:
hi again tech guyz

i can't run twitcher 3 , it just tries to load for 0.5 second then nothing happens

i tried verifiying steam cache, updating graphics driver, and forcing to directx11 using windows 8 sdk trick

i guess i need new graphics card, although this one works amazingly (ran crysis, dota, gta3, skyrm with 80 mods etc) and i can't see how anything can be worth the money it'll cost in upgrading.....

so lets say i have £100-150 range to spend on a card (preferably lower side but always optimal choice)

here are my specs


Radeon HD 4800
Intel Duo E8400 3ghz
4 gb ram
P5K motherboard


i can't get any more info on the motherboard , i guess i have to look at it physically? i guess knowing my motherboard exactly would be SUPER important because it might not be able to have modern cards installed on it or something?? let me know if u need more info

what card should i get?


The only minimum requirement that your system meets for Witcher 3 is hard drive space. The recommended CPU is about 3x faster than yours, as well as asking for 6GB of RAM (though i know that's not -actually- 100% required to start the game). Your GPU doesn't support dx11, so you can't force it~

Crysis is an ~8 year old game, dota is graphically light, Skyrim was primarily designed for the xbox360 which had 0.5GB of RAM total (system and VRAM) and very very little graphical horsepower. gta3 is 14 years old. You're a little out of touch with more modern games
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-01 13:47:45
June 01 2015 13:45 GMT
#9872
i still run pretty much everything under the sun tho... but twitcher just wont load unless i get a "modern" graphics card...

stuff might run at 25 fps but that's how i roll

eh well what about bioshock 3, i played that no problem :D (20fps or whatever)
i had black ops working too (only played 5 mins , got bored)
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-01 13:48:26
June 01 2015 13:46 GMT
#9873
You could buy a lower end card like a 960 (or even a 750ti.. that should meet min req.. i think?) but i don't think anyone can make promises that it'd run at all :0

eh well what about bioshock 3, i played that no problem :D (20fps or whatever)


two year old game that was relatively graphically light for its time. Witcher is one of the hard hitters of -today-, though it runs a lot better with certain settings down

i had black ops working too (only played 5 mins , got bored)


five year old console port, graphically light

you see where this is going ;p
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-01 13:51:04
June 01 2015 13:48 GMT
#9874
heres benchmark thing btw http://www.techspot.com/review/1006-the-witcher-3-benchmarks/page2.html

i dont get it. i watch games on jps stream and they look the same as all the other shit. (gameplay is worse than ever.) totalbiscuit is always complaining about games looking like shit too.

name me a modern game that i shouldnt be able to run other than twitcher? gta5, dishonored? (i havent tried them)
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-01 14:01:43
June 01 2015 13:54 GMT
#9875
Dishonored was made for the 2005 console generation, so it's probably not that hard to run. GTA5 is relatively demanding in some ways, but also runs well (and was designed to run on those consoles too)

I'm not sure i can name many to be honest, not having played more than a few games recently. I tend to play like three games but for 10'000 hours

dying light, cities:skylines, star citizen, ashes of the singularity? guessing a little there.

"run" is very different from "aggressively raise settings on" or "have the cpu power to play smoothly even at low settings" so i guess you could "run" a surprising amount of stuff if you were tolerant of bad performance
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-01 14:07:13
June 01 2015 14:04 GMT
#9876
hmph so do u think i should get a 960 based on the fact that i barely ever play any games but i just went and forked out £50 for twitcher ? like, is this the kind of card i would be happy with for the next 5 years? (as in, is it The Buyers Choice for the midrange optimal purchase?)

oh yeah i wud be playing star citizen but dont want to pay for early access yet

cpu will be an issue for another day. i will probably have to deal with motherboard before then and wont be able to afford either of them. my E8400 hasn't let me down yet and i have no lack of faith in it. i'm sure all this i5 i7 rubbish is overrated
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-01 14:23:08
June 01 2015 14:18 GMT
#9877
On June 01 2015 23:04 FFGenerations wrote:
hmph so do u think i should get a 960 based on the fact that i barely ever play any games but i just went and forked out £50 for twitcher ? like, is this the kind of card i would be happy with for the next 5 years? (as in, is it The Buyers Choice for the midrange optimal purchase?)

oh yeah i wud be playing star citizen but dont want to pay for early access yet

cpu will be an issue for another day. i will probably have to deal with motherboard before then and wont be able to afford either of them. my E8400 hasn't let me down yet and i have no lack of faith in it. i'm sure all this i5 i7 rubbish is overrated


Witcher 3 is actually free with the cards unfortunately and 960's cost ~£170

Sure, first gen i5's were not that insanely amazing compared to e8400's. Better and with four cores, but not that amazing. 6'th gen i5 releasing in ~august 2015 is a completely different story though

my E8400 hasn't let me down yet
because you ask very little of it. When your games stop booting though, that's where even the hardcore low end people have to draw the line :D

like, is this the kind of card i would be happy with for the next 5 years?


I would say no, not at all.. but it depends what you demand from it
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-01 14:24:32
June 01 2015 14:20 GMT
#9878
what are you fucking kidding
what a crock of shit
look before i click the button can u double check this is the right thing https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-091-HS&groupid=701&catid=56
cheers buddy

if you're selling it with a copy of twitcher i could buy it through you and gift my copy to a friend
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-01 14:31:40
June 01 2015 14:24 GMT
#9879
On June 01 2015 23:20 FFGenerations wrote:
what are you fucking kidding
what a crock of shit
look before i click the button can u double check this is the right thing https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-091-HS&groupid=701&catid=56
cheers buddy


That's a 280x

960's are here https://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=1914&subid=2379
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/LP/nvidia-the-witcher-3.php

280's are good buy too, probably better performance/dollar than a 960. 50% more VRAM as well, but witcher is a bit biased towards nvidia. Different game/s free with radeon card too? I didn't check them recently. I got an email for the witcher 3 free thing and saw a forum thread for it

again though i can't recommend shit, even if your PSU and the graphics card etc works fine it might not even start the game or other stuff might not work~
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-01 14:33:36
June 01 2015 14:33 GMT
#9880
yeah im going with the 280x, it seems to have an overall slight edge in general (or in some specifics)

i will be back to blame you when it doesnt work

:D

(or to make a magnificent brag)
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
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