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On October 03 2013 06:32 Torte de Lini wrote:
Do you have any suggestions for PSU, RAM and Case? Trying to get them fairly cheap
budget left is: 300$ :x
Get a Fractal Design Define R4 for ~$85, 2x4gb is like $70, and a Seasonic G 550 is $85.
Do you have an aftermarket heatsink already? Because you'll need one for overclocking...
Chances are it'll be better buying from NCIX and ME than NCIX's sister websites that offer free-shipping.
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Not overclocking.
He rather stay with DirectCanada even though it blows.
No Seasonic on that site at all
Any preference of RAM brand?
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If you're not overclocking than don't waste money on a K-suffix processor and a Z87 motherboard. Those components are for overclocking.
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The K is cheaper I believe (unusually so) and yeah motherboard
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And this is why you buy from NCIX or ME -.- , why so insistent on NCIX's sister website? Does he realize the savings saved from pricematching far outweigh that of shipping?
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I told him to register because I'm in Germany and I love NCIX rofl!
Hopefully he gets on and you can slap him silly!
edit: bedtime, I told him you were #1 and you knew your shit.
For reference; I used this guide http://www.logicalincrements.com/
Do you think what they're suggesting is good or?
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For power supplies? Definitely not. Seasonic bias is written all over that list. The case suggestions also don't seem particularly good.
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Just to illustrate the point:
4770 is at Direct Canada for $338.75: http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD7092
You can pricematch the 4770 at $319.99 from NCIX: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=81326 at Memory Express to get it for $317.49: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45427
Memory Express shipping is $4.99 flat rate, $317.49 + $4.99 = $322.48. You save $16.27 on just the processor alone. If you buy a Fractal Design Define R4 than you save another $30 or so because you can get it at Memory Express for $85 while a comparable case on Direct Canada, the Antec P280 is $117.
NCIX shipping is like $20-$40 for entire order or under $20 for a few items. NCIX also has a wider selection, you can pricematch the Seasonic G 550 to $85 with Newegg or you can just buy it from Newegg +$10 shipping which is essentially what you are paying for an inferior Antec High Current Gamer-M.
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Hey I am that guy. Thanks for all the replies they've helped loads. I'm gonna look at that price matching option on NCIX
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Hey guys! Just reporting back after building my computer. Took a while to put together the damn thing (that cooler was insanely huge). Got a few cuts from the heatsink in the process but was well worth it in the end. I haven't started OC'ing just yet - will be looking into that once I have a bit of time. Just wanted to say thanks again for the recommendations and advice 
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Not sure where to post this:
+ Show Spoiler +nostream1 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/O7rxGHa.png) nostream2 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/UrWp2Xp.png) ---- 1080p60 with optimized gamesource 1 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/eK0DrPD.png) 1080p60 with optimized gamesource 2 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/CVGQebn.png) This seems to reflect what i see to a decent extent at least. Gamesource seems to have been changed so it only pulls performance down hard when actually encoding, which it didn't before (it would give you the full FPS hit just from checking it on and tabbing into the game) which i was counting on for testing lower clockspeeds. Guess i'll have to change bench enviroment a bit, 1080p60 pretty hard on oc'd i7 still. It'd be too high CPU usage for good numbers at 3.5-3.7ghz, even though i didn't hit 85% on any thread benching here. *I'll try OBS game capture too, but i don't remember it beating xsplit gs on either of my systems when i was actually pulling the right amount of FPS from game capture (i got better ingame fps.. when the game capture was only pulling 40-50fps instead of the 60 that i set) and i never not even once saw bench data backed up with video output from a single person, so i'm not sure if there is actually notably better performance there when it works right. If it works good, i'll use it Looking to improve this as much as i can. Realistically, for a ~1920x1080, 48fps stream with 3.0-4.5 up. If anyone can think of anything to help or wants to bench/compare numbers etc then please let me know! Also, the engine/driver hitch translates onto software video capture too, uploading video in a sec***. That's a seperate issue and i didn't try 314 or the new beta driver yet. As far as i remember, both OBS game capture and Xsplit Gamesource choke really hard on dx9 when you're pushing higher resolutions and framerates I've been playing a little quake live recently. The smoothness feels soo good after playing sc2 ***Here it is. This happens like every 5-10 seconds and obviously makes stuff pretty unplayable. Maybe i'm just on a terrible driver, because i only tried a few and only between 320 and 327. Ignore my terrible terran 2v2 third offrace ;3
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Well it all depends on what games you play...
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On October 03 2013 19:12 iTzSnypah wrote:
Well it all depends on what games you play...
It's mostly for SC2 but tempted to try GTA V on it! (but I guess this would be a hopeful wish?)
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A £118 650ti is a bad buy next to a great 7970 model for £228
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-273-AS
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/781?vs=768
But you may not want the extra horsepower. It wouldn't help for sc2 etc. If you were putting extra money for that, you'd probably want cpu overclock (k cpu, z87 board, good cooler) though it's hard not to mention the pricepoint for 7970's on ocuk very recently. They're ahead of the curve, other stuff didn't drop yet.
If i was buying low end, i'd wait out a bit because AMD's releasing the r7/r9 line, which offers a few new cards (r7 260x) at low end, as well as rebrands in the low/mid range, and nvidia's expected to throw in a few new cards and cut prices across their lineup ^within about 1-5 weeks
1.65v RAM is ok, but 1.5v kits are "better", just higher quality chips if they can do 1600mhz cas9 at 1.5v instead of 1.65v. Try to get them if it's a straight choice, but it doesn't really matter.
Ideally you should prefer 1600mhz cas9 1.5v without tall heatspreaders, like this: http://main.makeuseoflimited.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/ddrram2.jpg
and not this: http://plexuscomputing.com.au/supplies/images/corsairvengeance.jpg
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On October 03 2013 19:37 Cyro wrote:A £118 650ti is a bad buy next to a great 7970 model for £228 http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-273-AShttp://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/781?vs=768But you may not want the extra horsepower. It wouldn't help for sc2 etc. If you were putting extra money for that, you'd probably want cpu overclock (k cpu, z87 board, good cooler) though it's hard not to mention the pricepoint for 7970's on ocuk very recently. They're ahead of the curve, other stuff didn't drop yet. If i was buying low end, i'd wait out a bit because AMD's releasing the r7/r9 line, which offers a few new cards (r7 260x) at low end, as well as rebrands in the low/mid range, and nvidia's expected to throw in a few new cards and cut prices across their lineup ^within about 1-5 weeks 1.65v RAM is ok, but 1.5v kits are "better", just higher quality chips if they can do 1600mhz cas9 at 1.5v instead of 1.65v. Try to get them if it's a straight choice, but it doesn't really matter. Ideally you should prefer 1600mhz cas9 1.5v without tall heatspreaders, like this: http://main.makeuseoflimited.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/ddrram2.jpgand not this: http://plexuscomputing.com.au/supplies/images/corsairvengeance.jpg
Wow, fantastic! I will wait for a few days for the r7 low end cards and possibly longer for the prices to drop. Hopefully the price will be comparable to that of 650ti. A quick search reveals that they will be released next Tuesday. Would the r7 260X need a different motherboard? Sorry for asking such a nooby question!
http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-r9-280x-radeon-r7-260x-radeon-r7-240-specifications-confirmed-october-8th-launch/
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No you don't need a different motherboard. All video cards use PCI-E x16 and all motherboards have PCI-E x16. A R7 260X is going to be slightly more expensive than a GTX 650 Ti.
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Everything seems rather nice, aside from your graphics card (apparently) but just listen to Skyr for that.
Your PSU should be more than enough to run that system as well. Don't underestimate having a good PSU. You should be fine with it.
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I don't believe the 7970 prices (or 280x, which is equivelant) will drop further, OCUK was ahead of the curve in pushing them down really hard. That's why 7970 top @£227 is such awesome value. That price range shouldn't change much i think (on amd side), but highest end and 650ti range might a bit
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Hi guys,
I'm looking to build a home server, and need some recommendations for a case, mobo, and psu.
I'm planning on housing 6-8 3.5" drives, possibly up to 10 if the case will allow for it, and my budget would be about $300 (for just these three components), though budget is not much of a problem. I could easily go $350, $400 to save some time/management pain. I'll be buying from the US within the week, probably on Newegg
I didn't fill out the template because I think most of the questions don't apply, please let me know if I should provide any other info.
Some random questions
- I know the processor requirements for a server are pretty low, but how low could I actually go?
- Would it be better to get SATA controller cards, or just find a mobo with more ports?
- Any particular case fan recommendations before I Newegg search and sort by rating?
Thanks :D
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