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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
August 23 2013 21:30 GMT
#41
So MSI Afterburner won't let me overvolt or clock my 7850 high enough (only lets me go up to 1050Mhz and I'm stable (20mins Kombuster) there with stock volts). Which utility offers higher clock limits while allowing overvolting? I would rather not have to download them all to find out.

Also the fans are tiny, I was expecting them to be 92mm but they are ~80. I guess it doesn't matter though as the card is silent compared to the blower my old card has.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 21:34:25
August 23 2013 21:34 GMT
#42
On August 24 2013 06:30 iTzSnypah wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
So MSI Afterburner won't let me overvolt or clock my 7850 high enough (only lets me go up to 1050Mhz and I'm stable (20mins Kombuster) there with stock volts). Which utility offers higher clock limits while allowing overvolting? I would rather not have to download them all to find out.

Also the fans are tiny, I was expecting them to be 92mm but they are ~80. I guess it doesn't matter though as the card is silent compared to the blower my old card has.


There are work-arounds for MSI Afterburner though I don't know if they still work. People have also mentioned using ASUS GPU Tweak.
Sylvex
Profile Joined January 2009
United States127 Posts
August 23 2013 21:34 GMT
#43
Thanks for the info guys.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
August 23 2013 21:47 GMT
#44
The GeForce GT 220 broke down on my other comp.

Im looking to replace it. Budget is not a lot. Maybe around or less than 100 bucks. The computer really isnt used for gaming, and if it is, we're totally content with playing on lowest settings.

Is there a similar card, or something better, that I can find on Amazon or Newegg(preferably).
Skol
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
August 23 2013 21:56 GMT
#45
On August 24 2013 06:47 Emnjay808 wrote:
The GeForce GT 220 broke down on my other comp.

Im looking to replace it. Budget is not a lot. Maybe around or less than 100 bucks. The computer really isnt used for gaming, and if it is, we're totally content with playing on lowest settings.

Is there a similar card, or something better, that I can find on Amazon or Newegg(preferably).

Something like the lowest-end discrete Radeon HD 6450 from last generation should be better than a GT 220, and that's around $35. But you can get over double the performance of the 6450 at around $50 with an HD 6570, so I'd just get that instead. No need to spend $100.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102994
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 23 2013 21:58 GMT
#46
On August 24 2013 06:47 Emnjay808 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
The GeForce GT 220 broke down on my other comp.

Im looking to replace it. Budget is not a lot. Maybe around or less than 100 bucks. The computer really isnt used for gaming, and if it is, we're totally content with playing on lowest settings.

Is there a similar card, or something better, that I can find on Amazon or Newegg(preferably).


Radeon HD6670 is around $60.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
August 23 2013 22:08 GMT
#47
Just got confirmation from Lars in an interview... BF4 on PS4 runs at 720p upscaled to 1080p and solid 60 fps.


Ha

Final resolution to be decided when the game is optimized or something, but all of the gameplay so far was on high end systems or 1280x720, AFAIK
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 23:47:52
August 23 2013 23:43 GMT
#48
GTX 660 Ti for $195: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=75685&promoid=1336

US equivalent for $235: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121656

Hot for Canada, cold for US. Radeon 7950 in US for $220: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127667
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 02:29:25
August 24 2013 02:27 GMT
#49
Hot deals:

Crucial M500 240GB for $145: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45375 , pricematch with http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=81655&promoid=1382

Gigabyte Z87X-D3H for $121: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX46023 , pricematch with http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=84040&promoid=1382
SideAffect
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada30 Posts
August 24 2013 03:51 GMT
#50
This thread is awesome. Thanks skyR. Also, Crucial M500 ordered And close enough to pick up in store so no shipping!
"Let us celebrate our new arrangement with the adding of chocolate to milk" - Homer Simpson
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 04:36:05
August 24 2013 04:22 GMT
#51
On August 24 2013 06:34 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 06:30 iTzSnypah wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
So MSI Afterburner won't let me overvolt or clock my 7850 high enough (only lets me go up to 1050Mhz and I'm stable (20mins Kombuster) there with stock volts). Which utility offers higher clock limits while allowing overvolting? I would rather not have to download them all to find out.

Also the fans are tiny, I was expecting them to be 92mm but they are ~80. I guess it doesn't matter though as the card is silent compared to the blower my old card has.


There are work-arounds for MSI Afterburner though I don't know if they still work. People have also mentioned using ASUS GPU Tweak.

I ended up downloading a few of them (4) and only Sapphire's Trixx will let me go up to 1.225v and 1300 on the clock.

E:I must be doing something wrong. I'm passing Furmarks 1080p benchmark with 1300 on the clock (1.225v) and ram (5.2effective)...Or do they really overclock this good?
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 06:43:06
August 24 2013 05:01 GMT
#52
Don't know about AMD side, but some synthetics like furmark ram me straight into power limit. As a result, card downclocks to non boost clocks (from 1300 to.. 1000?) and instability doesn't show.

Regular gaming and unigine heaven run at like 70% of the power limit at max OC (power limit is % of tdp, which is a massively massively overkill 230w for this reason), not way over 100% like furmark
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
August 24 2013 09:56 GMT
#53
On August 24 2013 06:56 Myrmidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 06:47 Emnjay808 wrote:
The GeForce GT 220 broke down on my other comp.

Im looking to replace it. Budget is not a lot. Maybe around or less than 100 bucks. The computer really isnt used for gaming, and if it is, we're totally content with playing on lowest settings.

Is there a similar card, or something better, that I can find on Amazon or Newegg(preferably).

Something like the lowest-end discrete Radeon HD 6450 from last generation should be better than a GT 220, and that's around $35. But you can get over double the performance of the 6450 at around $50 with an HD 6570, so I'd just get that instead. No need to spend $100.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102994

On August 24 2013 06:58 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 06:47 Emnjay808 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
The GeForce GT 220 broke down on my other comp.

Im looking to replace it. Budget is not a lot. Maybe around or less than 100 bucks. The computer really isnt used for gaming, and if it is, we're totally content with playing on lowest settings.

Is there a similar card, or something better, that I can find on Amazon or Newegg(preferably).


Radeon HD6670 is around $60.

Thank you, this is exactly what I was looking for!
Skol
issh
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands96 Posts
August 24 2013 12:07 GMT
#54
On August 23 2013 20:45 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 20:34 issh wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
What is your current build?
CPU:Intel Core i5 3570K, Ivy Bridge, 3.4GHz Quad Core, 6MB Cache (overclocked to 4.5GHz)
GPU: Nvidia GTX 260
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H, Intel Z77 Chipset
Power supply: Cooler Master, ATX 12V V2.3 / ESP12V V2.91
Memory: DDR3, 8GB Total (2x4GB) Corsair Vengeance LP, 1600MHz

What is your resolution?
1920x1080

Why do you want to upgrade? What do you want to achieve with the upgrade?
The GPU and power supply, hopefully have a fairly good increase in fps.
As you can see the GPU mainly is a big problem for my system, im fairly sure it's bottlenecking my CPU.

What is your budget?
$450

If you have any brand or retailer preferences, please specify.
Honestly, abit of a Nvidia fanboy, would like to stick with them.


Amazing thread, thanks so much for this!


GTX 760 is ~$260 and a Rosewill Capstone 450 is $60, $320 total. You can go up to a GTX 770 for ~$400 as well but that will put you over budget by a little bit. If you're not in the US / Canada then you won't find a Rosewill Capstone so other options would be Superflower Golden Green 450, Seasonic G 450, and XFX Core Edition 550.


Thanks!

Would it be worth shedding out a few more bucks for the 770 then? (sorry for late reply, couldn't get back to it sooner)
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 14:19:42
August 24 2013 14:14 GMT
#55
770 has 1536 cores, 760 has 1152. They clock to similar speeds, so with an i5 i'd say yea, do it (if you want a powerhouse gpu that you can throw anything at) I went 260<770 myself. Ignore the clock speeds listed on sites etc - the cards will just automatically run at the max boost clock, and then some. My card will do a 50mhz offset to run @1293mhz on stock voltage +1% and if i limit the fan speed to never pass 65%, my temperatures rarely hit 75c in gaming when many cards run into the 90's.

gtx680/770 is full GK104, the only thing that beats it right now is GK110 in the 780/titan
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
August 24 2013 16:21 GMT
#56
This thread is solid work skyR.
Probably should make a pop-quiz to ensure that people asking for help have read through the first post in its entirety haha.
With no power comes no responsibility?
ShootingQuasar
Profile Joined July 2013
United Kingdom44 Posts
August 24 2013 18:00 GMT
#57
What is your budget?

£1000

What is your monitor's native resolution?

1920x1080 by i eventually want to upgrade to 2550x1440

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?

Starcraft 2 mostly but some LoL and Battlefield (Latest) Would ideally like to run them as high as possible :D

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?

Computer is mainly for typing, CAD, programming and simulations, maybe some rendering/video editing

Do you intend to overclock?

I dont know how to but am open minded to it as long as liquid cooling isnt necessary

Do you need an operating system?

Ideally Microsoft 8 and Ubuntu Linux on partitions

Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?

Need a Keboard and mouse
If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.

GPU from Nvidia GeForce, Intel CPU (want CPU to be an i7 4th generation) , Want to install OS on SSD then use an HDD for data storage

What country will you be buying your parts in?

UK

If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.

Amazon, pc world, places like that
No need Build Orders, Only Micro
issh
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands96 Posts
August 24 2013 19:47 GMT
#58
On August 24 2013 23:14 Cyro wrote:
770 has 1536 cores, 760 has 1152. They clock to similar speeds, so with an i5 i'd say yea, do it (if you want a powerhouse gpu that you can throw anything at) I went 260<770 myself. Ignore the clock speeds listed on sites etc - the cards will just automatically run at the max boost clock, and then some. My card will do a 50mhz offset to run @1293mhz on stock voltage +1% and if i limit the fan speed to never pass 65%, my temperatures rarely hit 75c in gaming when many cards run into the 90's.

gtx680/770 is full GK104, the only thing that beats it right now is GK110 in the 780/titan


Awesome, will save some money and go for that then. Thanks again.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 24 2013 23:04 GMT
#59
Fractal Design Arc Mini for $50, hot: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352008
DenTenker
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States606 Posts
August 24 2013 23:35 GMT
#60
Speechless. Really well done. Now I just have to read everything. :D Can't wait!
If your all in didn't work, you didn't pull the workers.
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