Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread - Page 264

On April 14 2014 08:26 Cyro wrote:
If you're not overclocking, then it's a waste of money to have k-suffix CPU and z87 mobo, then your RAM would be forced to run at 1600mhz too.

On April 15 2014 17:19 Incognoto wrote:


Are you going to game on both monitors or just one?

On April 15 2014 23:32 Cyro wrote:



don't pay more than $85 or so for 2x4gb ~2133c9/10 or ~2400c10-11 RAM

you probably want a 4670k instead of a 4770k, unless you're doing stuff that specifically benefits from hyperthreading. 4770k only outperforms 4670k in a few games

WD green is slower than other drives, only get it if you want slow storage usually (like for archiving stuff)


1300w PSU is a massive waste of money for such a setup

With a basic OC, you'd hit about 120 to 150 watts with a 4770k. It's quite hard to break past this number - meanwhile, unless you do things with your GPU which involves having more advanced overclocking knowledge and voiding its warranty, you can't draw more than ~270w with it.

Your entire system power consumption would thus be in the ~400-500w range peak, assuming you oc'd both - you're actually hurting efficiency from having such a PSU, that would not be appropriate unless you wanted to run three 780ti's, which is kinda awkward on z87 without a plx chip (which that board does not have) and also completely weird and pointless for anything less than 1440p or 3x+ surround gaming

780 is the value choice over 780ti. 780ti can outperform 780 by about 1.25x - but it's usually about ~1.2x or a bit less, and that is assuming that you are matching clocks on both. Unless you remove the power limit (void warranty) and cool it well, you can't do this, so it's essentially ~1.15x. It costs a lot more than 15% extra, though - here in the UK they cost about 1.4x extra, so it's hardly value for money. It doesn't make sense on 1080p 60hz either, particularly - with such a powerful GPU, one that's better than sli760 when OC'd, you would expect at the very very least a 1080p120 monitor or 1440p60, with turned up graphics settings

You want to SLI 780's? Take a 750w psu, 850 if you want to be really sure while pushing OC's

On April 15 2014 23:45 Cyro wrote:


$600 cheaper with little loss (about 15% faster on GPU is most noticable loss, though 4770k can be 15% faster in some loads too, it's just that for most games, 4770k and 4670k perform the same, and for most other tasks, 4670k is fast enough for most people)

Also, both of these builds need a cpu cooler. The PSU is assuming you'd throw in a second 780 while cpu+gpu overclocking quite intensely, but not void-warranty-on-everything-maxed-out-nuts level of OC on cpu+gpu, as you have to be more than a little curious about overclocking to do that stuff


To be honest, with such a build, since you're buying screens - i would look towards 1080p120 screen, maybe 1440p60 - or even a ROG swift (1440p120hz gsync/strobe) That's a massively expensive option though.

With sli780, i wouldn't be happy with 1080p60 with not gsync or even strobe technology. Both are pretty big advancements