EPTEdit: and if I hadn't seen that listing I probably would have linked a 770.
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
Edit: and if I hadn't seen that listing I probably would have linked a 770. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Edit: Actually, seems like that are a bit more | ||
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CerpinTaxt
United States208 Posts
2. Think I want to go with an nVidia over ATI 3. I Was originally thinking a 760, but I think budget will allow a 770, I guess my question is the price generally worth it for the increase in performance? | ||
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CerpinTaxt
United States208 Posts
On January 22 2014 09:39 MisterFred wrote: An i7 generally isn't very useful for gaming. It offers hyperthreading over an i5, which... generally isn't very useful for gaming. Modular PSU also seems a little silly, but that's just me. Here's my advice: CPU & Mobo: i5-4670k & Asrock z87 Extreme 4 ($315 + sales tax) @Microcenter Edit: with streaming, wouldn't be a terrible idea to bump up the $80ish to the i7 either, I suppose. CPU cooler: Thermalright Macho HR-02 ($50) http://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-Macho-Support-Socket-Driver/dp/B009MS326U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1390347663&sr=8-1&keywords=hr-02 macho GPU: Sapphire R9 280x ($350) http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=91074&vpn=11221-00-20G&manufacture=SAPPHIRE&promoid=1233 With your budget you can pretty easily afford one of the big boys. Yes, a Sapphire r9 270x ($215 @us.ncix.com) or something like that would do you just fine, especially at 1920x1080. So drop down to something like that if you want to save money. Stay with this if dropping below 60fps bugs you in AAA titles or if you plan on upgrading to a bigger monitor at some point in the future RAM you have. Case: Nanoxia DS2 ($102) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811281002 performance + low noise. You can save $30 or so and go with a Corsair 330R from us.ncix.com, but the 330R just isn't quite as nice & you have a sizeable budget. I suppose the 330R would fit your instructions better though... PSU: See SkyR, above (budgeting $90 for flex room) DVD-burner. (<$20) I'll let you handle this one SSD: Crucial m500 240gb ($156) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148694 HDD: Seagate 1TB ($60) http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=65701&vpn=ST1000DM003&manufacture=Seagate&promoid=1217 Total: ~$1145 Thank you for the detailed response. I intend on buying parts slowly over the next month or so when I see them on deals @newegg and such. So I'll use your recommendations for parts mostly. Is there anything SSD wise I need to pay much attention to other then storage? Seems to be a wide variety in price ranging at same storage, and I'm wondering if thats just a brand thing, or other actually performance things I need to consider. | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
im considering buying this. is the video card upgradable? are there still other factors i should consider? im gonna use it to play games like dota 2, skyrim, call of duty | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
On January 22 2014 12:09 icystorage wrote: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113333 im considering buying this. is the video card upgradable? are there still other factors i should consider? im gonna use it to play games like dota 2, skyrim, call of duty There is no video card, you're buying integrated graphics with that processor choice. If you're going APU route, now that the 7850k @$190 has bf4 with it, i would consider it (but it's still costly.. and there's no other 512gcn apu) - or just another CPU with a dedicated GPU Is there anything SSD wise I need to pay much attention to other then storage? Seems to be a wide variety in price ranging at same storage, and I'm wondering if thats just a brand thing, or other actually performance things I need to consider. Some performance characteristics etc mainlyDidn't look at numbers recently but 840 evo is probably still one of the best bets | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
On January 22 2014 11:56 CerpinTaxt wrote: 1. I really don't want to deal with crossfiring/SLI 2. Think I want to go with an nVidia over ATI 3. I Was originally thinking a 760, but I think budget will allow a 770, I guess my question is the price generally worth it for the increase in performance? 1. Yeah. It can be worth it financially in some situations. But a bother 2. I guess. Not sure why, but it's not like there's some big downside. 3. Worth it for the increase in performance? Generally I would say no. But running smoother in rare situations might be worth more to you than it is to me. And the extra $100 or so might be worth less to you than it is to me. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
On January 22 2014 12:16 icystorage wrote: so can I buy a video card and insert it? Yes, but it does not make sense to pay extra for integrated graphics and then buy another card anyway. | ||
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nosliw
United States2716 Posts
I have B75 chipset and i5-3550. I know that my CPU and chipset shouldn't be able to overclock. However, in the ECS BIOS under MIB III page, I found setting called Over Clocking Extra Vol. Should I increase it to "overclock"? I have a cooler master 212 because my default cooler broke. Thanks, | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
so is the integrated graphics enough? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On January 22 2014 12:25 nosliw wrote: Overclocking noob question: I have B75 chipset and i5-3550. I know that my CPU and chipset shouldn't be able to overclock. However, in the ECS BIOS under MIB III page, I found setting called Over Clocking Extra Vol. Should I increase it to "overclock"? I have a cooler master 212 because my default cooler broke. Thanks, That's just to give your processor extra voltage. It doesn't change the clock speeds. | ||
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nosliw
United States2716 Posts
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divito
Canada1213 Posts
BitFenix Prodigy - $90 + Show Spoiler + Subjective purchase. Small case, plenty of features, cheap. Gigabyte GA-H87N-WIFI - $125 + Show Spoiler + Reason for the motherboard is mainly because it's the cheapest option with more than two SATA ports at CC. While I can get away with only two, I already own more hard drives than that. i5-4670 - $240 + Show Spoiler + Not overclocking. Patriot 8GB 1600 - $86 + Show Spoiler + Basically cheapest option at the moment. Samsung 840 EV0 240GB - $200 + Show Spoiler + While I can also possibly get away with 120GB, a lot of my Steam games aren't installed, and with a new computer, I'll be playing a lot more. Constantly re-evaluating and un-installing would be annoying. EVGA GTX 760 SC - $284 + Show Spoiler + This is the biggest question mark for me. I've stayed away from some of the latest games simply because of how old my system is, but I really am not sure I'll need this over something like the 660 which is ~$75 cheaper. Silverstone SS-ST45SF-G 450W - $110 + Show Spoiler + Case presents issues with certain sized power supplies. Taking safe route provided the power supplies that I have don't work out. There's also the non-modular Silverstone for $75 from Canada Computers as well. Total with tax = $1284 (Canada Computers) Thoughts and advice is appreciated. | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
On January 22 2014 12:02 CerpinTaxt wrote: Thank you for the detailed response. I intend on buying parts slowly over the next month or so when I see them on deals @newegg and such. So I'll use your recommendations for parts mostly. Is there anything SSD wise I need to pay much attention to other then storage? Seems to be a wide variety in price ranging at same storage, and I'm wondering if thats just a brand thing, or other actually performance things I need to consider. Re: SSDs. Long story short, the answer to your question is no. The days of crappy SSDs that break down on you are pretty much over. Currently the most relevant brands in terms of prices being decent & performance being as-high-as-matters seem to be: Samsung 840 Evo, Plextor M5S, Crucial m500, and Intel-SSDs-when-on-sale. Currently the Samsung EVOs are probably the best of those 4 performance wise, with the Plextor then being a bit ahead of the Crucial & Intel SSDs. But I often recommend one of the others if they come in underprice compared to the Samsung because, well, at a certain point REALLY FREAKING FAST is pretty much the same as a little faster than really freaking fast. A bit about the numbers, keeping in mind the sentence preceding this one: The big numbers that get thrown out a lot are sequential read or write speeds, even though those don't generally matter as much (relevant to transferring big, giant files. So if you transfer large HD video files from drive to drive a lot, then that might be of significant use to you. More important to most people are 4k random read or write speeds (accessing a bunch of different small files), which is what most people do when, say, running programs on their computer. 4k is the size of the files used in the tests that create the numbers. For sequential, write is often more important than read, because in those large-file-transfer situations, it's usually the slower drive's write speed that will matter. For small riles, read speed are much more important than write speeds, because that what makes your computer seem snappy. Few people care if you installed a little faster - particularly since they have to download what they're installing (slower than the SSD is going to be able to write anyway). | ||
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DnCL
86 Posts
I really just want: - Google Docs or Open Office or equivalent - a screen of at least 7'' - keyboard - What OS should I look for ? Is there some OS on wich I would simply not be able to install either google docs or open office ? - Would these 2 items fill the intended purpose, or there is something I'm missing ? Tablet with port Rollable Keyboard - Is there anything else I'm missing that could make this not work ? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
On January 22 2014 12:53 divito wrote: Plans somewhat changed. Original birthday purchase (Jan 10) has been moved to when I'm getting my bonus from work around next week so I can increase my budget. Originally thought about re-using parts from current build, but shying away from that now. Here is potential build (reasons/concerns in spoilers): BitFenix Prodigy - $90 + Show Spoiler + Subjective purchase. Small case, plenty of features, cheap. Gigabyte GA-H87N-WIFI - $125 + Show Spoiler + Reason for the motherboard is mainly because it's the cheapest option with more than two SATA ports at CC. While I can get away with only two, I already own more hard drives than that. i5-4670 - $240 + Show Spoiler + Not overclocking. Patriot 8GB 1600 - $86 + Show Spoiler + Basically cheapest option at the moment. Samsung 840 EV0 240GB - $200 + Show Spoiler + While I can also possibly get away with 120GB, a lot of my Steam games aren't installed, and with a new computer, I'll be playing a lot more. Constantly re-evaluating and un-installing would be annoying. EVGA GTX 760 SC - $284 + Show Spoiler + This is the biggest question mark for me. I've stayed away from some of the latest games simply because of how old my system is, but I really am not sure I'll need this over something like the 660 which is ~$75 cheaper. Silverstone SS-ST45SF-G 450W - $110 + Show Spoiler + Case presents issues with certain sized power supplies. Taking safe route provided the power supplies that I have don't work out. There's also the non-modular Silverstone for $75 from Canada Computers as well. Total with tax = $1284 (Canada Computers) Thoughts and advice is appreciated. Can't brain atm but i just closed this 5 minutes ago: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313398 better RAM also $18 cheaper (but shipping cost is a thing) You can't actually higher than ~1600mhz clock speed on them without z87, but hey - it's literally like cheaper than any of the 1600 kits lol | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
In all honesty? Buy a paper notebook & a pack of bic pens. It's not usually a good idea to use electronics to take notes. Reasons: 1) most people can't type as fast as they can write longhand, particularly when you take into account things like underlining, circling, and crazy arrows connecting two parts of your notes (some of which can't really be done in a word processor). 2) Electronics sometimes irritate other students, since eyes are naturally drawn to screens as they glow & stuff moves on them. So unless you want to be rude, you have to sit in the back of the room. 3) If you organize your paper notes well, it's easier to pick up a notebook & flip through it. 4) You can doodle more easily on paper. Abstract doodles are actually an excellent aide for some students who are capable of fully listening to lecture while doodling (at least in my case, it actually helps concentration. I use a different part of my brain to draw geometric shapes than follow a verbal argument, as far as I can tell.) 5) Paper notebooks are less likely to be stolen, & are less expensive. There's probably some more I can't think of at the moment. But there you go. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On January 22 2014 12:53 divito wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Plans somewhat changed. Original birthday purchase (Jan 10) has been moved to when I'm getting my bonus from work around next week so I can increase my budget. Originally thought about re-using parts from current build, but shying away from that now. Here is potential build (reasons/concerns in spoilers): BitFenix Prodigy - $90 + Show Spoiler + Subjective purchase. Small case, plenty of features, cheap. Gigabyte GA-H87N-WIFI - $125 + Show Spoiler + Reason for the motherboard is mainly because it's the cheapest option with more than two SATA ports at CC. While I can get away with only two, I already own more hard drives than that. i5-4670 - $240 + Show Spoiler + Not overclocking. Patriot 8GB 1600 - $86 + Show Spoiler + Basically cheapest option at the moment. Samsung 840 EV0 240GB - $200 + Show Spoiler + While I can also possibly get away with 120GB, a lot of my Steam games aren't installed, and with a new computer, I'll be playing a lot more. Constantly re-evaluating and un-installing would be annoying. EVGA GTX 760 SC - $284 + Show Spoiler + This is the biggest question mark for me. I've stayed away from some of the latest games simply because of how old my system is, but I really am not sure I'll need this over something like the 660 which is ~$75 cheaper. Silverstone SS-ST45SF-G 450W - $110 + Show Spoiler + Case presents issues with certain sized power supplies. Taking safe route provided the power supplies that I have don't work out. There's also the non-modular Silverstone for $75 from Canada Computers as well. Total with tax = $1284 (Canada Computers) Thoughts and advice is appreciated. Remember that you can pricematch at Canada Computers. Not sure what colour you're getting but the black is available for $60 until the end of the day: http://products.ncix.com/detail/bitfenix-prodigy-mitx-mini-itx-tower-case-midnight-black-1x5-25ext-5x3-5int-no-ps-top-usb3-0-audio-57-71143-1217.htm | ||
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DnCL
86 Posts
Thanks for reminding me all the good things about paper notes, but even being aware of them, I still want to make the switch. So the question stays: Is it possible to do what I want with a tablet ? + Show Spoiler + I'd like your opinion on this: I want something light and small to take notes in class. Tought about a cheap (100$) tablet + silicone foldable keyboard as the solution. I prefer this to a laptop because it's lighter, seems cheaper or comparable, and very small size laptops seem to have annoying keyboards, so I would need an external keyboard anyway. (I have huge fingers) I really just want: - Google Docs or Open Office or equivalent - a screen of at least 7'' - keyboard - What OS should I look for ? Is there some OS on wich I would simply not be able to install either google docs or open office ? - Would these 2 items fill the intended purpose, or there is something I'm missing ? Tablet with port Rollable Keyboard - Is there anything else I'm missing that could make this not work ? | ||
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