EPTComputer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread - Page 194
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Cyro
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Incognoto
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Cyro
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Incognoto
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Corsair SP120 noise quality is somewhat poor, even with Quiet Edition slowed down. It's kind of unremarkable unless you can get a good price on a two-pack or something. The cost is a bit higher but bequiet! Silent Wings 2 performs about the same and sounds a bit better. If you don't mind something with a somewhat lower life span (well, the cost is also lower), the basic Nexus Real Silent (though this limited to 1000 rpm... though you can just get the typical Yate Loon it's based off of at higher speeds) or possibly the Scythe Glide Stream are okay. The Cougar Vortex HDB versions should be fine. Certain models of Noctuas and Noiseblockers are good, but the prices... edit: I'd say 5C is probably unrealistic unless you're significantly increasing the noise levels. Also, Core 1000? It doesn't have room for those fans (two intake, two exhaust) unless you're modding locations. edit2: if the intake is relatively open and we're not talking about powering past front doors, thin vents, fine mesh filters, filled-up HDD cages, etc. then you may not need to focus so much on higher-pressure models. | ||
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Incognoto
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Rodrek
United States14 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Also, yeah, for Core 1000 layout you don't need high-pressure fans for intake. And anyway, it's always about the relevant part of the P-Q curve anyway and not how the fan behaves when fully blocked (to get its static pressure reading). | ||
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Incognoto
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Myrmidon
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Mavvie
Canada923 Posts
The only difference is the 4960x has 3MB more L3 cache and an ever-so-slightly higher stock clock speed. So are people really paying $400 for 3MB of L3? I....don't really have words? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Mavvie
Canada923 Posts
So realistically, the 4930k is the fastest processor you can get? 6 Haswell cores overclocked, just with bad motherboard selection because of the chipset? | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
On January 21 2014 07:26 Mavvie wrote: Right, seems really silly though. But I guess the profit they make from those chips helps fund their R&D which is nice. So realistically, the 4930k is the fastest processor you can get? 6 Haswell cores overclocked, just with bad motherboard selection because of the chipset? Actually, those are Ivy Bridge cores, not Haswell. The haswell extreme processors aren't out yet. Which actually brings up a bit of a conundrum for those looking for "the best". An i5-4670k (or i7-4770k) is capable of better per-core performance than an i7-4930k. So even though those processors are considerably cheaper, they can actually be better for gamers. Though I think the 2011 chipsets are preferred by those with more than 2 GPUs, as they have more pci-e lanes? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20343 Posts
SB-E @4.7ghz or IB-E at 4.5ghz is about ~160 points on cinebench r15 single, i'm at 187 might be able to hit 190 with haswell quad on air. There's the possibility of clocking those lga2011 chips a bit higher, but not really on air, not reliably and comfortably. They scale better with water Haswell-E will give 8 haswell cores, probably soldered.. but you'll not be able to run them as aggressively on frequency as haswell quads. As it stands right now though, in many tasks, lga2011 has 50% more cpu cores, but the lack of IPC makes them often ~1.25x as fast (or 1.3x) Haswell 8-core, clock for clock, will be 2x as good as quad - so losing a bit of clock speed does not hurt too much, though it's probably going to be a lot of power and way more expensive etc | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
On January 21 2014 07:50 Cyro wrote: Haswell 8-core, clock for clock, will be 2x as good as quad - so losing a bit of clock speed does not hurt too much, though it's probably going to be a lot of power and way more expensive etc I know you know this, but just to clarify for others, Haswell 8-core will only be 2x as good as a quad where applications can use it. Clock for clock, it'll be the same as Haswell 4-core for SC2. | ||
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Mavvie
Canada923 Posts
 Cool information, it's too bad that value decays exponentially as performance gets higher. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Haswell-E with 16 threads won't be utilized very well at all, considering the difficulty that most developers have coding for an 8-threaded CPU (i7/fx8350) - and considering that FX CPU's need the threads to stay up to par, it's a much bigger deal for them. Haswell-E with 8 cores and 16 threads will be around literally twice as fast as Piledriver FX with four module 8 thread (~fx-9590) Will fly in x264, though 40fps might be possible on x264 bench 5.0 on water (fx8350 @5ghz scores ~17-18, 4770k @4.6-4.7 is past 20) 40 maybe pushing it a lot lot but currently, 6-core SB/IB-E is pushing like mid to high 20's. Adding 33% more cores as well as gaining >15% IPC for encoding.. pretty damn solid upgradeAnd for the people on the quads, right now you have to pay a ton for +50% cores. If you're getting +100% cores instead, it's more of an incentive and actually breaks real multithreaded wrecking power to compensate more for you losing in single to 4670k's | ||
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Myrmidon
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CerpinTaxt
United States208 Posts
$1200-$1300 ($1500 is my dead stop top end line, but would like to stay a little lower) What is your monitor's native resolution? 1920×1080 (two monitors, both the same resolution) What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? Wildstar, SC2, anything else that comes out new - max settings. What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? Small amounts of video editing, streaming myself, frapsing, watching multiple HD streams. Do you intend to overclock? Yes. Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? No. Do you need an operating system? No. (windows 7 copy owned) Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? Do not need any peripherals. My budget ignores all monitors/mice/keyboards etc. If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. What I Have: RAM - 8gb (68$) What I Need: CPU - Thinking I7-4770k GPU - 760 2gb? PSupply - Modular or semi-modular is a must. Open to suggestions. MoBo - This along with the case is where I need some help. My knowledge is pretty limited on Mother boards, basically I know I need one that my 1150 intel CPU fits into, I can OC with, and aside from that, it must fit into the case; where another problem arises. Case - I've read my GPU of choice is pretty big, and really want to make sure I don't fuck up case size so Mother board and all components fit. Also really like to save money on a case (don't want to spend more then 100$). As long as everything fits, and there is good cooling, I'm fine with that. Optical - Standard nice cheaper optical. SSD/HDD - Thinking i Only need a 120gb SSD, maybe more if budget allows. Already have a 1 tb exteral for storage (Videos/Music/ETC) so probably just a 1tb internal should be fine. What country will you be buying your parts in? USA If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. Microcenter nearby (which I think I can get CPU of choice and such for ~40 bucks cheaper then online. Newegg otherwise. | ||
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