EPTOn December 31 2013 10:46 wptlzkwjd wrote:
Would the Xeon be compatible with your motherboard? It's a LGA 1155, not LGA1150.
Would the Xeon be compatible with your motherboard? It's a LGA 1155, not LGA1150.
E3-1230v3 is LGA1150.
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skyR
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On December 31 2013 10:34 BryanSC wrote: So I haven't really followed up on AMD and Intel since Sandy Bridge, but I tried coming up with a build here (I kind of stole it off the opening post, few changes). Please let me know if there's some things that can be swapped out. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2sZy0 Again, I already have peripherals, OS, and monitor, and this computer is for my brother who will mainly be just gaming, medium settings most likely, and no streaming, video editing, etc. (Previous post describing build needs) + Show Spoiler + What is your budget? $600-700, maybe a little more than 700 but not much more. What is your monitor's native resolution? 1920x1080 What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? Battlefield, Assassin's Creed, Arkham Origins, that's about as graphically intense as it will get What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? This is a build for my younger brother who is looking to get into PC. As long as it can run games reasonably well (high would be nice but if not, medium would be fine). No editing, streaming, or anything else that is taxing will be used on this computer. Do you intend to overclock? If possible, yes, but with this budget I'm not expecting to. Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? No Do you need an operating system? No Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? No I do not need peripherals or monitors; we have those already. If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. No requirements or preferences, as long as they are known to be reliable and perform well, that's all that is important to us. What country will you be buying your parts in? United States If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. No preference, so Newegg, TigerDirect, Amazon, or whomever ships in the United States is perfectly fine. Do you have enough money to swap the AMD CPU and mobo for an i5 4670K and mobo bundle? | ||
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LeperKahn
Romania1846 Posts
On December 31 2013 09:49 skyR wrote: Nothing glaring but you can get a Capstone 450-M for $60: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182261 and a Define R4 for $70: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75045&promoid=1051 Thanks for the tips! I'm ordering this guy now! Aw, that case is on back order. Do you have any experience dealing with this? | ||
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divito
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+ Show Spoiler + Case: Antec P182 Operating System: Windows 7 Professional Motherboard: Gigabyte P35-DS3L CPU: Intel Q6600 (stock) Power Supply: Ultra X4 - 1050W (it was free) RAM: Patriot PC2-6400 4GB Graphics Card: EVGA nVidia 8800GT Superclock (670) 512MB Soundcard: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic Hard Drive: Western Digital 150GB Raptor / Seagate Barracuda 3TB / Samsung HD103UJ 1TB / Western Digital 1TB external (backup) Monitor: 22" Samsung 2233RZ 2nd Monitor: 22" Samsung 2233SW Budget Getting ~$500 for birthday next week. Would extend myself to $700 as a max or so since I don't need anything bleeding edge. Resolution Given my monitor, it ends up being 1680x1050. In most games, I tend to shy away from using the highest resolution for performance reasons, but with a new computer, that should be alleviated. Usage I dabble in a little bit of everything, so this is going to be a very general and broad-usage computer. From gaming, Photoshop, some video editing, etc... it has to be outfitted as such. Also, this computer will also serve as a partial server to other computers on my network, as well as my Xbox, so I plan on having a lot of drives. Upgrade Cycle Before my current rig (almost 7 years, ugh), I was on strict 2-year cycles for upgrades/complete overhauls with all my other builds. I would like to begin getting back into that mindset. When? Jan 11th. Overclocking? No. Need OS? No. SLI/Crossfire? No. Where? Canada Computers; Barrie location. Part specifics I will be re-using my PSU, storage drives, and potentially my case. So I will need the following within my budget: CPU Intel only, and not overclocking as stated. Far past my enthusiast phase of tinkering and overclocking. Just want to drop it in and go. Motherboard While not overclocking, having a good amount of features is important. As many SATA 6Gb/s ports as possible, as well as USB 3.0. I am partial to EVGA/Gigabyte boards. RAM No real requests here, other than it'll probably be at least 8GB. Graphics Card Nvidia only; my last four cards have been with EVGA, so my preference continues there. Am open to other possibilities though. Hard Drive SSD needs to be at least 128GB, though 256GB will probably be more preferable, cost-allowing. Case Not 100% whether I will re-use my case, but I will take suggestions for cases based on the following: - I'm big on air cooling, so lots of fans while having a silent profile is beneficial (think padding, rubber grommets for hard drives etc). - Must have a lot of hard drive bays. - Do not care about its size or weight. (have been considering mini-ITX for something like a Node 304 but undecided) - Lots of cable-routing options. - Decent connection selection for front/top of case. - Preferable tool-less drive installation, but not super picky. I am open to any and all questions and suggestions anyone has, and thank you all for your time. I will answer through this thread or through PM if you prefer. | ||
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BryanSC
United States455 Posts
On December 31 2013 10:49 wptlzkwjd wrote: Do you have enough money to swap the AMD CPU and mobo for an i5 4670K and mobo bundle? Unfortunately not, $700 is the limit and not much more. Swapping to Intel w/ Mobo would still tack on another $100 would it not? | ||
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skyR
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On December 31 2013 11:36 BryanSC wrote: Unfortunately not, $700 is the limit and not much more. Swapping to Intel w/ Mobo would still tack on another $100 would it not? You're probably better off getting a less expensive case like a Fractal Design Core 1000 or something similar and putting that $40-$50 you saved towards the GPU or CPU. Your current total for CPU and motherboard with AMD right now is $253 according to PCPartsPicker which would be enough for an core i5, $200 for the i5 and $50 for the motherboard. Though you won't have any option to overclock with the i5 (unless you get the 3570k for $200 but the Z77 motherboard would cost more than $50). If you're not going to overclock right from the start then you probably also shouldn't be spending so much on a board, a board that's $30 less expensive would probably suit you just fine as well (eg. Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3, ASUS M5A97 R2). | ||
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LeperKahn
Romania1846 Posts
Just finished the order. Thank you! This thread and those people who responded helped me so much! | ||
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skyR
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On December 31 2013 11:26 divito wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Current Computer Setup (built early 2007) + Show Spoiler + Case: Antec P182 Operating System: Windows 7 Professional Motherboard: Gigabyte P35-DS3L CPU: Intel Q6600 (stock) Power Supply: Ultra X4 - 1050W (it was free) RAM: Patriot PC2-6400 4GB Graphics Card: EVGA nVidia 8800GT Superclock (670) 512MB Soundcard: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic Hard Drive: Western Digital 150GB Raptor / Seagate Barracuda 3TB / Samsung HD103UJ 1TB / Western Digital 1TB external (backup) Monitor: 22" Samsung 2233RZ 2nd Monitor: 22" Samsung 2233SW Budget Getting ~$500 for birthday next week. Would extend myself to $700 as a max or so since I don't need anything bleeding edge. Resolution Given my monitor, it ends up being 1680x1050. In most games, I tend to shy away from using the highest resolution for performance reasons, but with a new computer, that should be alleviated. Usage I dabble in a little bit of everything, so this is going to be a very general and broad-usage computer. From gaming, Photoshop, some video editing, etc... it has to be outfitted as such. Also, this computer will also serve as a partial server to other computers on my network, as well as my Xbox, so I plan on having a lot of drives. Upgrade Cycle Before my current rig (almost 7 years, ugh), I was on strict 2-year cycles for upgrades/complete overhauls with all my other builds. I would like to begin getting back into that mindset. When? Jan 11th. Overclocking? No. Need OS? No. SLI/Crossfire? No. Where? Canada Computers; Barrie location. Part specifics I will be re-using my PSU, storage drives, and potentially my case. So I will need the following within my budget: CPU Intel only, and not overclocking as stated. Far past my enthusiast phase of tinkering and overclocking. Just want to drop it in and go. Motherboard While not overclocking, having a good amount of features is important. As many SATA 6Gb/s ports as possible, as well as USB 3.0. I am partial to EVGA/Gigabyte boards. RAM No real requests here, other than it'll probably be at least 8GB. Graphics Card Nvidia only; my last four cards have been with EVGA, so my preference continues there. Am open to other possibilities though. Hard Drive SSD needs to be at least 128GB, though 256GB will probably be more preferable, cost-allowing. Case Not 100% whether I will re-use my case, but I will take suggestions for cases based on the following: - I'm big on air cooling, so lots of fans while having a silent profile is beneficial (think padding, rubber grommets for hard drives etc). - Must have a lot of hard drive bays. - Do not care about its size or weight. (have been considering mini-ITX for something like a Node 304 but undecided) - Lots of cable-routing options. - Decent connection selection for front/top of case. - Preferable tool-less drive installation, but not super picky. I am open to any and all questions and suggestions anyone has, and thank you all for your time. I will answer through this thread or through PM if you prefer. Samsung 840 EVO 120GB ~$100 H87 ~$100 Core i5 4570 ~$200 8GB RAM ~$70 is already $470. $500 is a super tight budget. Probably not doable if you want a H87 for native 6Gbps ports unless you're willing to settle for a core i3? Not sure what you define as "many" but H87 chipset only comes with six SATA 6Gbps ports. If you're looking for more built into the motherboard then you'll have to pay significantly more for the higher end Z87 boards that use Asmedia / other chipsets to provide the extra SATA ports. The same goes for USB3, most if not all H87 boards only come with 2 back and 2 fronnt USB. The extra are only available through Asmedia / other chipsets founnd on higher-end Z87 boards. HDDs can't fully saturate 3Gbps fyi. | ||
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divito
Canada1213 Posts
On December 31 2013 12:14 skyR wrote: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB ~$100 H87 ~$100 Core i5 4570 ~$200 8GB RAM ~$70 is already $470. $500 is a super tight budget. Probably not doable if you want a H87 for native 6Gbps ports unless you're willing to settle for a core i3? Not sure what you define as "many" but H87 chipset only comes with six SATA 6Gbps ports. If you're looking for more built into the motherboard then you'll have to pay significantly more for the higher end Z87 boards that use Asmedia / other chipsets to provide the extra SATA ports. The same goes for USB3, most if not all H87 boards only come with 2 back and 2 fronnt USB. The extra are only available through Asmedia / other chipsets founnd on higher-end Z87 boards. HDDs can't fully saturate 3Gbps fyi. I'll re-use my case then. And I'll go up to $700-800 then to include a graphics card. I'll deal with the six ports for now given the budget constraints. | ||
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BryanSC
United States455 Posts
On December 31 2013 11:57 skyR wrote: You're probably better off getting a less expensive case like a Fractal Design Core 1000 or something similar and putting that $40-$50 you saved towards the GPU or CPU. Your current total for CPU and motherboard with AMD right now is $253 according to PCPartsPicker which would be enough for an core i5, $200 for the i5 and $50 for the motherboard. Though you won't have any option to overclock with the i5 (unless you get the 3570k for $200 but the Z77 motherboard would cost more than $50). If you're not going to overclock right from the start then you probably also shouldn't be spending so much on a board, a board that's $30 less expensive would probably suit you just fine as well (eg. Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3, ASUS M5A97 R2). Thanks for the input so far wptlzkwjd and skyR. Just have a question: By i5, do you mean going with something like an i5-4570, and going on a B85, H81, or H87 chipset? If I have this right, do you know which chipset, as well as particular model, is a popular choice among those options? I suppose I only need a SATA port for the optical drive and hard drive, and a few more just in case would be nice. | ||
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Incognoto
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On December 31 2013 12:21 divito wrote: I'll re-use my case then. And I'll go up to $700-800 then to include a graphics card. I'll deal with the six ports for now given the budget constraints. So that leaves you around $250-300 for the GPU? For your motherboard it's possible to scrape some $ if you open up to other brands. You have an ASRock H87 board for $73 atm: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157384&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID= With 6 SATA3 ports and quite a few USB drives apparently. I don't like H87 boards since I feel that they offer little compared to B85 but that's just me. Otherwise for H81 boards at $50 you can get them with two SATA3 ports and two normal ports. As far as I know only SSDs can take advantage of SATA3. I take it you want to future proof yourself down the line with all the extra SATA3 ports? See if you scrape some $ here and there you can make the $40 jump between a 120 Gb SSD and a 240 Gb SSD. Crucial M500 is at $140: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BQ8RM1A/?tag=pcpapi-20 Depends on how you see it but I'd prefer a bigger SSD to more SATA3 ports I can't even use. ^^ Try this on for size however, it's pretty much what SkyR said except some money saved on the mobo is thrown into a bigger SSD: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2tbIX Cheapest EVGA 760 is $250. If I'm buying a new GPU for gaming I don't think I would skimp of the GPU, but that's just me once again. Otherwise for less money you have 660 or something. | ||
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polity
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Case: Nanoxia Deep Silence 2 PSU: 600 Watt Corsair CX Series Modular 80+ Bronze Mainboard: ASUS M5A99X EVO R2.0 CPU: AMD FX Series FX-8350 Heat sink: Thermalright HR-02 Macho Rev.A RAM: 2x 4096MB Corsair Vengeance Black GPU: 3072MB XFX Radeon HD 7970 1000M Black Edition Dual Fan SSD: 256GB Samsung 840 Pro Series HDD: 1000GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 Disc Drive: ASUS BW-12B1ST Blu-ray Brenner Monitor: 23,6" (59,94cm) iiyama ProLite B2480HS-W1 Thank you very much! | ||
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S3ph
Germany76 Posts
On December 31 2013 19:15 polity wrote: Would you buy this for 950€? Case: Nanoxia Deep Silence 2 PSU: 600 Watt Corsair CX Series Modular 80+ Bronze Mainboard: ASUS M5A99X EVO R2.0 CPU: AMD FX Series FX-8350 Heat sink: Thermalright HR-02 Macho Rev.A RAM: 2x 4096MB Corsair Vengeance Black GPU: 3072MB XFX Radeon HD 7970 1000M Black Edition Dual Fan SSD: 256GB Samsung 840 Pro Series HDD: 1000GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 Disc Drive: ASUS BW-12B1ST Blu-ray Brenner Monitor: 23,6" (59,94cm) iiyama ProLite B2480HS-W1 Thank you very much! Hi. Without thorough research (just geizhals.de) I found these prices: Disclaimer: all these prices are @ mindfactory.de or amazon.de. Nanoxia Deep Silence 2 --> 88,4 600 Watt Corsair CX Series Modular 80+ Bronze --> 62,89 ASUS M5A99X EVO R2.0 --> 104,54 AMD FX Series FX-8350 --> 162,39 Thermalright HR-02 Macho Rev.A --> 35,18 2x 4096MB Corsair Vengeance Black --> 86,91 3072MB XFX Radeon HD 7970 1000M Black Edition Dual Fan (@ hiq24.de only!) --> 339,5 256GB Samsung 840 Pro Series --> 191,85 1000GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 --> 47,79 ASUS BW-12B1ST Blu-ray Brenner (@amazon.de) 119,95 iiyama ProLite B2480HS-W1 (@amazon.de) --> 182,18 All in all 1421,58 €. So, if you pay 950€ for it - its an unbelievable price! Get it as fast as you can. | ||
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polity
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http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/indigo-White-Shark-A835BS-AMD-FX-8350-8GB-256GB-SSD-1000GB-HDD-BluRay-Bre_919441.html | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On December 31 2013 19:15 polity wrote: Would you buy this for 950€? Case: Nanoxia Deep Silence 2 PSU: 600 Watt Corsair CX Series Modular 80+ Bronze Mainboard: ASUS M5A99X EVO R2.0 CPU: AMD FX Series FX-8350 Heat sink: Thermalright HR-02 Macho Rev.A RAM: 2x 4096MB Corsair Vengeance Black GPU: 3072MB XFX Radeon HD 7970 1000M Black Edition Dual Fan SSD: 256GB Samsung 840 Pro Series HDD: 1000GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 Disc Drive: ASUS BW-12B1ST Blu-ray Brenner Monitor: 23,6" (59,94cm) iiyama ProLite B2480HS-W1 Thank you very much! I would not. I don't like it at all. I think the price might be all right for what it is, but I don't like the parts. The CX600 is a shitty PSU. Even if the FX8350 is a good CPU (I know little of AMD CPUs), at this price range I want either an i5 4670k or a 4770k with a good overclock on it. Someone else might be able to give you a less biased view on this but as far as I know, AMD CPUs are good to buy at a lower price range than where we are with this build. I don't like XFX as a GPU brand. I would rather have Sapphire, MSI, HIS, Gigabyte or ASUS cards. Cards with custom PCBs and excellent air coolers. Not to say it's a bad card though. Just, if I'm getting a 7970, I want to spend a few extra € for better overclocking potential. Even so, as of now I would hold off buying a new PC until R9 290s with custom PCBs are available at a decent price (damn miners, lol). Such cards would be my go-to at this price range, even if I have to trade an overclocked 4670k for a stock clocked 4670 on a B85/H81 board. All in all, depending on how good the FX 8350 is, this might be an OK deal, however I wouldn't buy it since I would rather build something with parts I chose myself. I think the heatsink is an OK mid-range'd one, not sure though. Edit: Also that site gives me €1600, not €955. Maybe I can't read German or something. Also apparently the blu-ray thing costs €100. I wouldn't pay for something I don't need. :p | ||
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S3ph
Germany76 Posts
On December 31 2013 19:49 polity wrote: Hey thank you. It was this pc on sale (mindstar): http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/indigo-White-Shark-A835BS-AMD-FX-8350-8GB-256GB-SSD-1000GB-HDD-BluRay-Bre_919441.html Unluckily for me my PC is already there. Otherwise I would buy mindstar's for sure. I hope for you, that you have ordered one.  On December 31 2013 21:01 Incognoto wrote: + Show Spoiler + On December 31 2013 19:15 polity wrote: Would you buy this for 950€? Case: Nanoxia Deep Silence 2 PSU: 600 Watt Corsair CX Series Modular 80+ Bronze Mainboard: ASUS M5A99X EVO R2.0 CPU: AMD FX Series FX-8350 Heat sink: Thermalright HR-02 Macho Rev.A RAM: 2x 4096MB Corsair Vengeance Black GPU: 3072MB XFX Radeon HD 7970 1000M Black Edition Dual Fan SSD: 256GB Samsung 840 Pro Series HDD: 1000GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 Disc Drive: ASUS BW-12B1ST Blu-ray Brenner Monitor: 23,6" (59,94cm) iiyama ProLite B2480HS-W1 Thank you very much! Edit: Also that site gives me €1600, not €955. Maybe I can't read German or something. Also apparently the blu-ray thing costs €100. I wouldn't pay for something I don't need. :p It was an offer, which lasted 5 minutes. So called Mindstar. --> Click here <-- Now you see what this PC really costs. 650€ off - is pretty much wood.  Even if some parts are a overkill, you will have an awesome PC all in all. AMD FX can be overclocked. Not much as Intel, but still. Maybe its not suited for a huge overclock, but you wont need it for years with its parts. Right at this moment it's on sale again. Here. ![[image loading]](http://i39.tinypic.com/2yxhcab.jpg) Dienstag (in the lower right corner) means Tuesday. | ||
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polity
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On December 31 2013 21:01 Incognoto wrote: I would not. I don't like it at all. I think the price might be all right for what it is, but I don't like the parts. The CX600 is a shitty PSU. Even if the FX8350 is a good CPU (I know little of AMD CPUs), at this price range I want either an i5 4670k or a 4770k with a good overclock on it. Someone else might be able to give you a less biased view on this but as far as I know, AMD CPUs are good to buy at a lower price range than where we are with this build. I don't like XFX as a GPU brand. I would rather have Sapphire, MSI, HIS, Gigabyte or ASUS cards. Cards with custom PCBs and excellent air coolers. Not to say it's a bad card though. Just, if I'm getting a 7970, I want to spend a few extra € for better overclocking potential. Even so, as of now I would hold off buying a new PC until R9 290s with custom PCBs are available at a decent price (damn miners, lol). Such cards would be my go-to at this price range, even if I have to trade an overclocked 4670k for a stock clocked 4670 on a B85/H81 board. All in all, depending on how good the FX 8350 is, this might be an OK deal, however I wouldn't buy it since I would rather build something with parts I chose myself. I think the heatsink is an OK mid-range'd one, not sure though. Edit: Also that site gives me €1600, not €955. Maybe I can't read German or something. Also apparently the blu-ray thing costs €100. I wouldn't pay for something I don't need. :p thank you for your opinion on this. It was a special 5-minute-offer for 950€. Also i dont like the cpu and the gpu, i decided to get one. I needed everything new, because i gave my old pc to my parents  | ||
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