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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-19 22:10:37
December 19 2013 22:09 GMT
#3161
Depends what they're being used for, what kind of performance you need, what you think of the aesthetics, etc. They're already built so normally I wouldn't want to bother. But for most purposes, I would have some questions or concerns about some of the parts or choices.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
December 19 2013 23:45 GMT
#3162
That Thermaltake case just looks weird to me. I understand, I think, part of what it's doing, but it just looks strange.

And the Antec reminds me that I don't have any neon, LED, or flashy bits inside my case. Maybe one of those lightning tube thingies will make it perform better. Hmm.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Mistakes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1102 Posts
December 19 2013 23:51 GMT
#3163
On December 20 2013 08:45 felisconcolori wrote:
That Thermaltake case just looks weird to me. I understand, I think, part of what it's doing, but it just looks strange.

And the Antec reminds me that I don't have any neon, LED, or flashy bits inside my case. Maybe one of those lightning tube thingies will make it perform better. Hmm.


Yeah the ThermalTake is nice because the door just hinges open by a button and the drives just slide into the slots on the side (rounded edges).

Flashy bits are the best. Do it. Haha.
I picked up that tube on Newegg for like $10 about 4 years ago, but I'm sure you could find something similar for cheap. ^^
StarCraft | www.psistorm.com | www.twitter.com/MistakesSC | www.twitch.tv/MistakesSC | Seattle
Mavvie
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Canada923 Posts
December 20 2013 02:14 GMT
#3164
Why are you only overclocked to 4.0 GHz?
Getting back into sc2 O_o
IMKR
Profile Joined August 2012
United States378 Posts
December 20 2013 03:23 GMT
#3165
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 19 2013 16:51 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2013 12:50 IMKR wrote:
On December 19 2013 00:29 Cyro wrote:
Just find a GPU OC guide. Probably something simple like running heaven 4.0 and playing with clocks/volts to find your OC, then tweaking it a little if there's any issues


so the build there isnt any test i should run? (or is that only for overclocking CPU? which i am not.)

and after I OC my gpu, how do i test it to make sure theres no problems?


You test it during the OC, not after (and that's most of overclocking)

There's no way to know what to set stuff to if you're not testing it during the OC process



I have a MSI gtx 760 hawk gpu.
whats a good oc guide for this GPU?
also whats the difference between heaven 4.0 and msi afterburner?
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
December 20 2013 05:41 GMT
#3166
http://www.overclock.net/t/1403674/official-nvidia-gtx-760-owners-club
maru lover forever
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
December 20 2013 07:00 GMT
#3167
On December 20 2013 12:23 IMKR wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 19 2013 16:51 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2013 12:50 IMKR wrote:
On December 19 2013 00:29 Cyro wrote:
Just find a GPU OC guide. Probably something simple like running heaven 4.0 and playing with clocks/volts to find your OC, then tweaking it a little if there's any issues


so the build there isnt any test i should run? (or is that only for overclocking CPU? which i am not.)

and after I OC my gpu, how do i test it to make sure theres no problems?


You test it during the OC, not after (and that's most of overclocking)

There's no way to know what to set stuff to if you're not testing it during the OC process



I have a MSI gtx 760 hawk gpu.
whats a good oc guide for this GPU?
also whats the difference between heaven 4.0 and msi afterburner?


Heaven 4.0 is a benchmark and GPU test, msi afterburner is a monitoring tool
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
IMKR
Profile Joined August 2012
United States378 Posts
December 20 2013 08:49 GMT
#3168
TY guys about the OC help

new question

are these 2 monitors IPS?
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236175

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824260130&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL121913&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL121913-_-EMC-121913-Latest-_-LCDMonitors-_-24260130-L07D


also are these monitors alright for a 1080p IPS monitor?
wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
December 20 2013 09:38 GMT
#3169
I've got an old power supply

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11130AC6518&vpn=RP-650-PCAR&manufacture=COOLERMASTER

Would that work for a new LGA1150 motherboard (probably a very simple one without SLR/XFire) and an i5 4670 or i7 4770 CPU + GTX 770?
Feel free to add me on steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/MagnusAskeland/
CrankOut
Profile Joined November 2013
187 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-20 12:11:21
December 20 2013 12:11 GMT
#3170
400-450W are enough for a 770 and i5. You only need over 500W if you are going SLI or Crossfire.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
December 20 2013 12:16 GMT
#3171
Seems like a pretty terrible psu, i'd buy another
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
December 20 2013 14:21 GMT
#3172
If the product pages don't say "IPS" everywhere and if the viewing angles are listed at 170 / 160, it's not IPS...


I think the eXtreme Power 650 is very similar to the 600 model (the 700 seems to be different):
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-eXtreme-Power-Plus-600-W-Power-Supply-Review/1034

That's not quite as bad as I was expecting. It goes out of spec only above 400W. Technically it should probably be fine (oh yeah, it shouldn't be "Haswell compatible" according to Intel's testing procedures, but that's a pretty contrived scenario), but I wouldn't recommend using such a junker of outdated EOL shitware that some semi-reputable brand is trying to foist on the masses. I mean, when you can get passable power supplies under $50 and very good ones for $70, how can you not afford this stuff if you're getting LGA 1150 i5 / GTX 770 kind of parts?
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-20 14:29:13
December 20 2013 14:28 GMT
#3173
It seems there was an update to those Coolermaster Extreme Power from what I've tried to research with Google. Of the newer versions, I could only see a review of the 430W version on jonnyguru.com and the guy liked it (keeping in mind the price of it of course).
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
December 20 2013 14:38 GMT
#3174
There are several relatively new series from Cooler Master. The actually newer V / VS / GM are good. GX 2 is passable.

I think you're talking about Extreme 2, which is a couple years old. This sucks too:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-Extreme-2-475-W-Power-Supply-Review/1550

If not, in any case the lower-wattage models of Extreme Power or EPP had a different design / OEM anyway, even if they've been refreshed. Probably. It's not like Cooler Master wants to send these out for review, and these product lines are so old they probably shifted OEMs as necessary to chase rock-bottom prices over the years.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-20 15:08:17
December 20 2013 15:00 GMT
#3175
Yeah, I just checked, and the OEM number is different between the 430W in the jonnyguru review and the 650W here. This one is E141400 = "Seventeam Electronics".

EDIT: The reviews for Seventeam stuff I could find were all saying the PSUs they tested were fine (not great but also not dangerous).
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Mistakes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1102 Posts
December 20 2013 19:15 GMT
#3176
On December 20 2013 11:14 Mavvie wrote:
Why are you only overclocked to 4.0 GHz?



Because it was extremely easy to move up .5GHz, and I don't really need anything more. Hell, I don't even need 4.0GHz. Lol.
StarCraft | www.psistorm.com | www.twitter.com/MistakesSC | www.twitch.tv/MistakesSC | Seattle
wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
December 20 2013 19:16 GMT
#3177
Thanks for the advice guys. Yeah I can afford another one but it seems like such a waste to throw a perfectly functional one out.
Feel free to add me on steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/MagnusAskeland/
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
December 20 2013 20:13 GMT
#3178
On December 21 2013 04:15 Mistakes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2013 11:14 Mavvie wrote:
Why are you only overclocked to 4.0 GHz?



Because it was extremely easy to move up .5GHz, and I don't really need anything more. Hell, I don't even need 4.0GHz. Lol.


4ghz is only 100-300mhz above stock depending on the load and you can do it with an undervolt sometimes
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
S3ph
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany76 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-21 23:27:57
December 20 2013 22:51 GMT
#3179
One more question, guys. Im still not sure what GFX I should buy.

XFX Radeon HD 7770 1024 MB or Asus AMD Radeon HD 7770 2048 MB.
The difference is 1024 MB more and 20 EUR more expensive.

The rest of the system:
CPU: AMD FX-6300 6x 3.50GHz AM3+
Mainboard: Asus M5A97 Evo R2.0 AMD 970 (90-MIBJK0-G0EAY0MZ)
RAM: G.Skill ARES DDR3-2133 DIMM CL11 Dual Kit 1.5V
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 1TB SATA 3
SSD: Samsung 840 EVO 120 GB
PSU: Super Flower Golden Green PRO SF-450P14XE
HSF: Scythe Mugen 4
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 Black Pearl

Any advice? I would like to keep the costs low, but 20 extra EUR is affordable.
Dura lex, sed lex!
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
December 21 2013 01:18 GMT
#3180
Most likely not worth it as the 7770 isnt a strong card and im guessing 20 euros is probably at least 20% higher?
I would save money elsewhere (cheaper ram, cheaper case) and try to get a 7850/7870/R9 270/760 depending on prices.
I am saying all this without knowing any prices.
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