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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 12 2013 20:43 GMT
#2961
Those are DVI-I. Why doess it matter?
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
December 12 2013 21:00 GMT
#2962
It's curious that the R9 290 (also the 780 I think) would get two analog outputs whereas the 7970 would only get one. Analog isn't as good as digital so what's the deal putting 2 analog outputs on a 290 which is supposedly a high tier of a card than a 7970?

It tickles my curiosity that's all.

Sometimes I pay attention to the tiniest, least important details for some reason. :p
maru lover forever
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
December 12 2013 21:09 GMT
#2963
Specs everywhere say DVI-D for both (the extra pins could be there without the electronics to make use of them), and it seems the card doesn't support analog outputs without active adapters. The analog part in specs could be a mistake.

Anyway, even if both were DVI-I, how would that be worse? What I think is the reality (only DVI-D) is a subset of functionality of DVI-I.

In fact, they do have an upgrade over the older generation: both DVI ports are dual-link DVI now.
IMKR
Profile Joined August 2012
United States378 Posts
December 12 2013 23:10 GMT
#2964
Okay, im still confused on something.
I am going to build my PC to check if it works w/o the GPU (wont get it for a while)
i know i can build my pc still w/o the GPU (skyr clarified for me)
but what im confused is, if i dont have GPU, where do i connect the monitor to? for the actual video part?
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
December 12 2013 23:14 GMT
#2965
your motherboard has slots for the onboard graphics. mine has dvi, vga, hdmi, and displayport, although yours may not have that many.
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Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
December 12 2013 23:38 GMT
#2966
On December 13 2013 08:10 IMKR wrote:
Okay, im still confused on something.
I am going to build my PC to check if it works w/o the GPU (wont get it for a while)
i know i can build my pc still w/o the GPU (skyr clarified for me)
but what im confused is, if i dont have GPU, where do i connect the monitor to? for the actual video part?

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IMKR
Profile Joined August 2012
United States378 Posts
December 13 2013 00:04 GMT
#2967
ahhh okay i see.

so after, when i go back in to put in my GPU, i just take that cord out (the one thats connected to the onboard mobo thing) and reconnect it to my gpu?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
December 13 2013 00:07 GMT
#2968
They look really nice, I'm waiting for benchmarks, prices and release dates with much impatience.


It was written a while ago that they were stock ~1040mhz and like 15db quieter than quiet mode on the reference cooler (which honestly couldn't hold 1000mhz at all reasonably)

looking to clock them to 1150, 1200 24/7 on air like the peeps with accelero's etc are doing, depending on noise i guess
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
December 13 2013 00:54 GMT
#2969
On December 13 2013 09:04 IMKR wrote:
ahhh okay i see.

so after, when i go back in to put in my GPU, i just take that cord out (the one thats connected to the onboard mobo thing) and reconnect it to my gpu?

Yes.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 13 2013 05:25 GMT
#2970
Contemplating an upgrade. HMM.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
December 13 2013 05:55 GMT
#2971
On December 13 2013 14:25 skyR wrote:
Contemplating an upgrade. HMM.


oooh really?

GPU or CPU ?
maru lover forever
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-13 06:10:30
December 13 2013 06:00 GMT
#2972
Naw you don't need a new GPU.

On a side note:
I've came to the conclusion that 9-blade fans are far superior to 7-blade fans.

And that I'm pretty much done being a gamer and thus sell my tower and get a laptop or something. Sad part is I made my tower all pretty inside about 3 weeks ago and I still haven't posted it on craigslist.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
lxginverse
Profile Joined May 2008
Monaco1506 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-13 10:14:01
December 13 2013 09:59 GMT
#2973
In relation to my earlier query, please help me choose between these gpus

Powercolor hd7770 - http://pcx.com.ph/components/graphics-card/powercolor/powercolor-hd7770-1gb-gddr5-128bit-ax7770-1gbd5-dh.html

Powercolor hd6790 - http://pcx.com.ph/components/graphics-card/powercolor/powercolor-hd6790-1gb-gddr5-256bit-ax6790-1gbd5-dh.html

Asus Gtx650 - http://pcx.com.ph/components/graphics-card/asus/vc-asus-gtx650-1gb-gddr5-128bit-gtx650-e-1gd5.html
These are the only cards that I can afford, thanks!
fromis_9 enjoyer
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
December 13 2013 13:35 GMT
#2974
On December 13 2013 18:59 lxginverse wrote:
In relation to my earlier query, please help me choose between these gpus

Powercolor hd7770 - http://pcx.com.ph/components/graphics-card/powercolor/powercolor-hd7770-1gb-gddr5-128bit-ax7770-1gbd5-dh.html

Powercolor hd6790 - http://pcx.com.ph/components/graphics-card/powercolor/powercolor-hd6790-1gb-gddr5-256bit-ax6790-1gbd5-dh.html

Asus Gtx650 - http://pcx.com.ph/components/graphics-card/asus/vc-asus-gtx650-1gb-gddr5-128bit-gtx650-e-1gd5.html
These are the only cards that I can afford, thanks!



hd7770 is the best but I would try to save up more money and get a better card if you are playing new games.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
December 13 2013 16:14 GMT
#2975
On December 13 2013 15:00 iTzSnypah wrote:
Naw you don't need a new GPU.

On a side note:
I've came to the conclusion that 9-blade fans are far superior to 7-blade fans.

And that I'm pretty much done being a gamer and thus sell my tower and get a laptop or something. Sad part is I made my tower all pretty inside about 3 weeks ago and I still haven't posted it on craigslist.


Why would you finish being a gamer? q_q
maru lover forever
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
December 13 2013 20:22 GMT
#2976
Posting this because I'd like to start looking into building a comp, but before putting up a build here to be evaluated, I have a question.
Are there pieces of hardware which don't fit together? Like, do certain brands/parts not work with others?
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
December 13 2013 20:24 GMT
#2977
The major ones are: Motherboard not fitting into the case and cpu/sockets.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 13 2013 20:43 GMT
#2978
On December 14 2013 01:14 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 15:00 iTzSnypah wrote:
Naw you don't need a new GPU.

On a side note:
I've came to the conclusion that 9-blade fans are far superior to 7-blade fans.

And that I'm pretty much done being a gamer and thus sell my tower and get a laptop or something. Sad part is I made my tower all pretty inside about 3 weeks ago and I still haven't posted it on craigslist.


Why would you finish being a gamer? q_q


I don't know about him but for me, games nowadays suck... Only game I play right now is Hearthstone and even that fucking sucks.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
December 13 2013 21:32 GMT
#2979
What is your budget?
500-800$

What is your monitor's native resolution?
I looked this up and I still don't quite know what it means. I don't have a monitor yet, which I'm going to buy later on. I'm planning on probably having something around 22-24", and most likely 1920x1080 since that's pretty much all I'm seeing online.

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
Pretty much low intensity stuff, some League at high settings, steam games like Rogue Legacy, etc.

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
Good amount of work, studying (still in university).

Do you intend to overclock?
Nope, when I get more used to computers in general I might think about it, but nothing in the near future.

Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
Nope, no need to.

Do you need an operating system?
Nope, already have a free one (I don't know if some builds are incompatible with Windows 7 though).

Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
I'll handle the monitor/keyboard/mouse stuff on my own.

If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
Intel for the processor would be preferred, and the cases brands mentioned in the OP all seem good. Mid-tower, vertical as well.

What country will you be buying your parts in?
Canada.

If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
None (still noob).
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
December 14 2013 00:21 GMT
#2980
On December 14 2013 06:32 Dark_Chill wrote:
What is your budget?
500-800$

What is your monitor's native resolution?
I looked this up and I still don't quite know what it means. I don't have a monitor yet, which I'm going to buy later on. I'm planning on probably having something around 22-24", and most likely 1920x1080 since that's pretty much all I'm seeing online.

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
Pretty much low intensity stuff, some League at high settings, steam games like Rogue Legacy, etc.

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
Good amount of work, studying (still in university).

Do you intend to overclock?
Nope, when I get more used to computers in general I might think about it, but nothing in the near future.

Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
Nope, no need to.

Do you need an operating system?
Nope, already have a free one (I don't know if some builds are incompatible with Windows 7 though).

Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
I'll handle the monitor/keyboard/mouse stuff on my own.

If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
Intel for the processor would be preferred, and the cases brands mentioned in the OP all seem good. Mid-tower, vertical as well.

What country will you be buying your parts in?
Canada.

If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
None (still noob).



Corsair CX Series CX430 @ $40 – 20 MIR
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX41857 pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11180AC2578&vpn=CP-9020046-NA/CP-9020046-US&manufacture=CORSAIR

Core™ i5-4440 Processor Bundle w/ ASUS B85M-E /CSM Motherboard @ $270 http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/BDL_4440_B85MECSM

Sniper Series 8GB @ $80
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX33414 pricematch with
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD7145&vpn=F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR&manufacture=Others

XFX Radeon HD 7850 @ $150 – 30 MIR (free shipping)
http://products.ncix.com/detail/xfx-radeon-hd-7850-core-edition-860mhz-1gb-4-8ghz-gddr-dvi-hdmi-2xminidp-pci-e-video-card-77797-1223.htm

SSD 530 Series SATA III Solid State Drive, 240GB @ $142.50 (not the fastest but 5 year warranty and no good deals) http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX47350
Pricematch with
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8515699&SRCCODE=LSCAN&cm_mmc_o=-ddCjC1bELltzywCjC-d2CjCdwwp&utm_source=Linkshare&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_campaign=8BacdVP0GFs&AffiliateID=8BacdVP0GFs-YC4xSyyyJhzWgbYeKU.5PQ

Fractal Design Define Mini microATX @ $80
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX37329


Total of 763 + 5$ shipping + tax - 50 MIR.
You can cut down by buying:
a less expensive case (many at ~$40 range)
2x2 GB ram
i3 processor
120GB SSD
Possibly a cheaper gpu as you dont play intensive games.
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