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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 21 2013 03:34 GMT
#2161
Gigabyte Z87X-D3H for $100: http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=84040&promoid=1284

$84 after price match at ME, $69 after mail in rebate.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
November 21 2013 03:38 GMT
#2162
Only for Canadians =( I rarely shop at ncix but I noticed they actually tell you how many of the products they have in-stock at their warehouses, thats neat. Wish newegg would do that.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
November 21 2013 03:49 GMT
#2163
On November 21 2013 12:34 skyR wrote:
Gigabyte Z87X-D3H for $100: http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=84040&promoid=1284

$84 after price match at ME, $69 after mail in rebate.

I'm looking at Memory Express but don't see the z87x for $84. Do you have link for it?
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 03:56:04
November 21 2013 03:54 GMT
#2164
On November 21 2013 12:49 Nagisama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 12:34 skyR wrote:
Gigabyte Z87X-D3H for $100: http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=84040&promoid=1284

$84 after price match at ME, $69 after mail in rebate.

I'm looking at Memory Express but don't see the z87x for $84. Do you have link for it?


Whoops wrong version, Z87 instead of z87x. Corrected

edit: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX46023

Well skyr corrected it too.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 21 2013 03:55 GMT
#2165
That's a D3HP, this is the D3H: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX46023
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
November 21 2013 04:01 GMT
#2166
Oh you meant to buy from ME and price match. Thought they don't price match promotional prices.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 21 2013 04:05 GMT
#2167
They do.
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 04:35:05
November 21 2013 04:32 GMT
#2168
Wow nice. I guess now is a time to ask for help for a build. I was originally planning to wait for Boxing Day, but this deal seems pretty good already.

Should I just get the mobo ahead of time, have an idea of the rest of the build ready and then wait if there may be possible Boxing Day deals, or just get it before that?

What is your budget?
Aiming at $900-1100.

What is your monitor's native resolution?
1920x1080.

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
Mostly CS:GO, and maybe BF4

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
I hope to stream CS:GO, maybe BF4, and stream videos with it.

Do you intend to overclock?
I do want to overclock the CPU just because I've heard how easy it supposedly is (last time I actively overclocked something was my GeForce MX2 lol). However I don't plan to do anything too drastic like trying to push its max performance or anything. Something relatively stable but at least above stock speeds for the CPU.

Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No.

Do you need an operating system?
No.

Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
No.

If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
I guess since I want to build around this motherboard (Z87X-D3H), it'd be Intel for CPU.

I've been using AMD video cards for quite awhile now, and since their select R9 cards come with BF4, it's just a matter of which to buy. Been looking at the 270X as ~$200 has usually been my price range for video cards. Just not sure if getting the 280X is worth the extra $100.

I'm slightly more familiar with XFX for Radeon cards since my current one is a XFX 6870 but I've heard they're bad?.

What country will you be buying your parts in?
Canada.

If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
Preferably NCIX/Canada Computers since there are retail stores close by to me, but it's not too big a deal as long as prices are good and free/cheap shipping.

Thanks in advance,

Let me know if anything else is needed.
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 21 2013 04:38 GMT
#2169
If you want that motherboard than you should purchase it from NCIX right away because it probably won't be there for much longer.
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
November 21 2013 04:40 GMT
#2170
You figure it would be sold out before ME can even process the price match? =\
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 21 2013 04:42 GMT
#2171
Probably. They also have the right to reject the price match.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 21 2013 04:47 GMT
#2172
Also keep in mind that the Battlefield 4 promo with the AMD cards is not available on all R7 and R9 cards, it is dependent on manufacturer.
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 05:08:08
November 21 2013 05:01 GMT
#2173
On November 21 2013 13:47 skyR wrote:
Also keep in mind that the Battlefield 4 promo with the AMD cards is not available on all R7 and R9 cards, it is dependent on manufacturer.

Yeah I saw on NCIX that it was only the XFX or MSI cards. Not as familiar with MSI, but the 270X is $20 cheaper with them on NCIX.

Edit: I ended up buying the motherboard =P.
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 06:36:13
November 21 2013 06:22 GMT
#2174
For the CPU: If you want to stream BF4, which is already CPU hungry, I wonder if you could manage to find a way to incorporate a 4770k into your build. Hyperthreading is good to have for video encoding. Now, it's possible that the developers fixed BF4 so that it uses less resources. In which case you could use a 4670k, which is the same thing minus hyperthreading, but also minus $100 or so. If you use something like OBS to encode then you should be fine. I don't know where BF4 stands as of now but do the research and make your decision. $100 can be thrown into a better GPU. ^^

It's not that XFX cards are bad, it's that they don't have custom PCBs like MSI/Gigabyte/Asus and so they don't overclock as well as those from the three big brands (Sapphire too). Coolers from the big brands are also quieter/better. You're looking at better performance getting a card from a big brand compared to XFX or Powercolor. If I were you I might look for a card with BF4. ^^

Motherboard was a good buy either way.




I really don't know how price matching works in Canada, though I can recommend getting one of these two PSU for a single GPU set up with mild OC (probably the Capstone, then again there's price matching):

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066&AID=10657534&PID=3938566&SID=&nm_mc=AFC-C8junctionCA

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151094&AID=10657534&PID=3938566&SID=&nm_mc=AFC-C8junctionCA


For a case this looks like a pretty good deal (can't see where shipping is though): http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11180AC4558&vpn=CC-9011023-WW&manufacture=CORSAIR



Oh and thank you Cyro and especially Rollin (!) for the information.
maru lover forever
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 21 2013 07:18 GMT
#2175
200R at $54 is regular pricing, nothing special. If you want a cheap case than see if your Canada Computers still has the Fractal Design Core 3000, it was like $45 iirc. Otherwise I'd wait for the Define R4 or Arc Midi R2 to go on sale. The Antec P280 for $90, $60 after mail in rebate isn't bad either if you want to do a mail in rebate.

280x is probably worth it if you're concerned with BF4.

Seasonic S12II is good but rather old, a bad purchase at $80. Antec Neo Eco 520C is essentially the same thing for $40 after mail in rebate right now though I'd probably wait for next week but then again Canada has shitty choices for power supplies.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 23:08:24
November 21 2013 23:08 GMT
#2176
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148545
16gb 1600 cas9 for $109.99, are we likely to find anything better in the near future?
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
November 21 2013 23:28 GMT
#2177
prolly not, but honestly i'd take 16gb of one of the 2400 kits @$130/16gb. Nice price though
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 23:36:57
November 21 2013 23:32 GMT
#2178
Thanks for the recommendations and help. I did a bit of window shopping online and managed to come up with this build. Just wanted to see what the opinions were of it and what I could play around with.

CPU: i5 4670k $240

CPU fan: Noctua NH-U14S? $90 I've seen this fan recommended last few times.

Mobo: GB Z87X D3H $85 (already bought it)

Ram: G Skill RipJaws X 2x4GB $80 I've seen various frequencies of this being recommended, not sure which would be best.

GPU: XFX or MSI R9 280X $320

Case: Fractal Core 3000? $45 Still kind of undecided on a case, the Define R4 looks pretty though.

PSU: Seasonic G450 $85 I think I want to aim for a cleaner build this time, so that's why I was thinking about a modular PSU.

SSD: ADATA SX900? 256GB $150 What are your thoughts on this compared to Samsung 840 Evo/Crucial M500 which I've seen recommended in the last couple pages? I'm not very good at comparing SSD's except for their read/write speeds.

Other possibility, Corsair Force Series GS 240GB $180

Also, does Intel's SRT work only on Intel SSDs? I heard about it when watching some build videos, and might use that and get a smaller SSD like 180GB or something instead.

HDD: Decided to just salvage my 2x 500GB Seagate Barracudas.

Totals between $1095 to $1125 before tax at their current prices depending on SSD and case choice.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-22 00:16:57
November 22 2013 00:09 GMT
#2179
Twin Frozr cards are proven, quiet and cool. While XFX tend to be lackluster so I would rather go for the MSI 280x especially if the prices are similar.

edit: Both ADATA and Samsung drives are the same if you're just gonna use it as a boot drive, whichever one is cheaper. Though personal pick would be the Evo for that overall reliability and the fact that I own one(128gb version).
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
McTeazy
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada297 Posts
November 22 2013 00:21 GMT
#2180
Are the quad core AMDs adequate for highish end gaming? I don't need to run max but i'd like to comfortable run BF4 at high settings. From the op i gather they are less powerful than the intels, but they're also significant;y cheaper
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