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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
November 22 2013 21:59 GMT
#2201
HIS R9 270 w/ Free BF4 180$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161449

Sapphire r9 270 w/ Free BF4 190$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202062
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 22 2013 22:00 GMT
#2202
If you live in Richmond BC or close to it and looking to build a new PC. NCIX is having their warehouse sale tomorrow where you can pick up a 650D for $90, Arc Midi R2 for $50, 7970 for $160, etc.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 22 2013 22:13 GMT
#2203
On November 23 2013 06:58 Days wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
What is your budget?
600$

What is your monitor's native resolution?
1400x990 (I may plan on buying a new one)

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
Starcraft, Medium or High. Good enough quality to stream. I am a grandmaster and want a decent viewership.

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
Streaming

Do you intend to overclock?
Yes

Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No

Do you need an operating system?
Yes

Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
Possibly a monitor

If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
no

What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA

If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
None

Here is my Build that I plan on buying for Cyber Monday, and I would like to hear your guys thought on it:
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Days/saved/2TRP

I am not too sure what to do about my hard drive, I have a 320 GB 7200rpm hard drive I use now. Not sure if switching to an SSD would be a smart move, my budget is 600. Keep in mind I would like to stream because I am a grandmaster zerg player and many people keep bothering me about my crappy quality stream so I really would like to improve my quality and stream at atleast medium quality settings.


Unfortunately this build is not very good.

Both Starcraft II and streaming is CPU intensive so a FX4300 would be a bad purchase. A Core i5 and H81 or B85 board is about the same price as what you have selected (FX4300, Hyper 212, and M5A97) and it'd run circles around it without any effort needed for overclocking.

GTX 560 is two generations old and is a very bad purchase at $155. A GTX 650 Ti Boost performs better and can be had for slightly less.

Cooler Master Elite 430 is expensive at $50. Fractal Design Core 1000 or NZXT Source 210 would both be better options at around $30-$40.

The Corsair CX500 is overpriced at $65. XFX Core Edition 550 is currently on sale for $51 ($26 after mail in rebate) which is much better than the CX500.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
November 22 2013 22:41 GMT
#2204
On November 23 2013 02:34 skyR wrote:
Those heatspreaders arent' tall, they're the standard 40mm heatspreaders


Ahhh, nice to know.
maru lover forever
B_Type13X2
Profile Joined October 2012
Canada122 Posts
November 22 2013 22:55 GMT
#2205
I'm stuck between a Titan and a pair of 780's in SLI thoughts?
Half the fun of the internet is untwisting the 20 layers of BS around everything
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
November 22 2013 23:04 GMT
#2206
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139050

45$ for a modular, is worth the price?
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
November 22 2013 23:06 GMT
#2207
On November 23 2013 07:55 B_Type13X2 wrote:
I'm stuck between a Titan and a pair of 780's in SLI thoughts?


Hell 780 in SLI you must have a lot of money to spend. Thats more than adequate for three 27" monitors.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 22 2013 23:07 GMT
#2208
On November 23 2013 08:04 Disregard wrote:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139050

45$ for a modular, is worth the price?


Not when the Capstone 450M is $5 more.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
November 22 2013 23:23 GMT
#2209
CAPSTONE-450 50$ after 10$ rebate + 10$ promo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182261

Missed it, thank you sir. And for those who might want it.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
November 22 2013 23:27 GMT
#2210
On November 23 2013 07:55 B_Type13X2 wrote:
I'm stuck between a Titan and a pair of 780's in SLI thoughts?



780ti >> Titan > aftermarket 780

If you wanna get a single card, wait a few weeks or whatever for aftermarket 780ti's, classy's, whatever. If you want to get two weaker cards, get a pair of good 780's.

Titan is pretty much worthless now as it's more expensive and significantly worse. No custom PCB's or cooling sold with it, less cores and slower memory speeds than 780ti. It's a niche option if you want 6gb of VRAM instead of 3 (which is already a lot) or double precision compute performance/whatever
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
LeperKahn
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Romania1852 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-23 02:40:21
November 23 2013 02:35 GMT
#2211
Hi.

I know very little about this process, but I'm reading as much as I can. I've spoken to a few people and looked around for builds. These two seemed relevant for my desires:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2460D

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/269D8

I have no attachment to any of the parts. If there is a better deal available do not hesitate to suggest it.

Thank you in advance!


What is your budget?
$1000-$1500


What is your monitor's native resolution?
I would like to buy a monitor. (Possibly 2.)


What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
I play Dota 2, BW, Civilization V, and old Call of Duty games sometimes.
I would like to play these games on high settings.
I would like computer to be relevant for a few years.


What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
The main reason for buying this computer is for using Ableton Live so I never have to worry about audio dropouts. In addition I would like to have a large amount of screen real estate to mess around with.
I will be using this computer to do homework. (I'm a physics major, and might need to be able to run simulations later on.)
I will play games on this computer.

(I think having large amounts of storage on a secondary internal drive would be useful. I'm also considering a dedicated sound card. From what I've read music software doesn't gain much from hyper threading CPU. I think the software does well with a large amount of fast memory available.)


Do you intend to overclock?
That seems like a good plan. I don't see why I wouldn't.


Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No, but if it would allow my computer to stay relevant much longer I would be interested.


Do you need an operating system?
No.


Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
This is part of my budget. I need a monitor.


If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
no


What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA


If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
no
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GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
November 23 2013 03:00 GMT
#2212
What is your budget?
$800

What is your monitor's native resolution?
1440*900, considering moving up to 1920*1080

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
BF4/DotA2/TF2/LoL, I'm settling on being able to do most new titles reasonably on high settings

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
I plan to stream most of the games I play

Do you intend to overclock?
No

Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No

Do you need an operating system?
Taken care of

Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
Not at the moment

If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
No

What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA

If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
None

I've been tinkering around with the basic stuff by using reference build lists, but I still have around $100 to spare and I'm not experienced enough to know if there's anything in there that could be truly changed for the better.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/26PBp
gaizka
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States991 Posts
November 23 2013 03:04 GMT
#2213
So whats the important part for 4v4 sc2, cpu or gpu?
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
November 23 2013 03:08 GMT
#2214
Should I jump on these deals or give it another week?? (black friday / cyber monday etc)

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/26boZ [i5-4670, mobo, 2x4gb ram for $320 (after taxes - before 10 mir) from newegg]

I'm recycling all of my other components and mainly looking to improve my SC2 stream.

(The one thing that might still convince me to pay a premium to OC would be if the stock fan should be upgraded at stock/turbo speeds)

One advantage to waiting an additional week is that I won't actually be able to un-box and test anything for three weeks (giving me a pretty short RMA/MIR period - the mobo doesn't have the best reviews...).
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 23 2013 03:10 GMT
#2215
On November 23 2013 12:04 gaizka wrote:
So whats the important part for 4v4 sc2, cpu or gpu?


CPU by far.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-23 03:33:47
November 23 2013 03:11 GMT
#2216
Singlethreaded CPU performance

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Avrck3jWivLcdC14MnV4U2JReWpwRExxc0FRZTZEa0E&gid=2

^Look at the single core score tab.

I don't have the best Haswell CPU sample, yet my single core score on r15 is in the 180's. I just got 180 np on 24/7 stable settings first try with RAM turned down and no tricks, i have 188 saved twice in my scores - i've never seen higher than ~135 on any amd cpu on air. I've seen Haswell in the 200's though
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 23 2013 03:17 GMT
#2217
On November 23 2013 12:00 GARO wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
What is your budget?
$800

What is your monitor's native resolution?
1440*900, considering moving up to 1920*1080

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
BF4/DotA2/TF2/LoL, I'm settling on being able to do most new titles reasonably on high settings

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
I plan to stream most of the games I play

Do you intend to overclock?
No

Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No

Do you need an operating system?
Taken care of

Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
Not at the moment

If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
No

What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA

If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
None

I've been tinkering around with the basic stuff by using reference build lists, but I still have around $100 to spare and I'm not experienced enough to know if there's anything in there that could be truly changed for the better.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/26PBp


Most of that is okay. Get a Capstone 450M instead of the CX430: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182261 It's just so much better for not much more.

You may want to consider an SSD with the leftover $100 or step up to a R9 280x if you'll be upgrading to 1080p and settings are important to you.
DusTerr
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
2520 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-23 03:32:38
November 23 2013 03:25 GMT
#2218
On November 23 2013 08:23 Disregard wrote:
CAPSTONE-450 50$ after 10$ rebate + 10$ promo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182261

Missed it, thank you sir. And for those who might want it.

Just curious any reason not to get Antec VP-450 450W for $40?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371045&Tpk=Antec VP-450
(Not to plug any particular HW site, but it's been used repeatedly in their budget system build)


Thanks skyR :D
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 23 2013 03:30 GMT
#2219
VP450 is old and wasn't even considered good to begin with. Capstone is just significantly better. Semi-modular, 80PLUS Gold, delivers more power at a higher rated temperature, better platform, more connectors, seven year warranty, better components, etc.
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
November 23 2013 04:05 GMT
#2220
On November 23 2013 12:17 skyR wrote:
Most of that is okay. Get a Capstone 450M instead of the CX430: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182261 It's just so much better for not much more.

You may want to consider an SSD with the leftover $100 or step up to a R9 280x if you'll be upgrading to 1080p and settings are important to you.

I think it's pretty stupid to buy a CX430M (although I would). Of the modular chains (2x SATA, 1xmolex, 1x6+2pin) you end up using all of the chains for nearly any configuration. You could only really not have to use 1 SATA chain if you don't use a DVD Burner.

On a side note, what do you think about some motherboards (EVGA X79 dark for example) using a 6pin GPU connector for PCI power instead of Molex? I think it's pretty awkward right now, as PSU's don't have an odd amount/enough 6+2pin connectors.
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