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WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-23 06:57:00
April 23 2014 06:56 GMT
#721
On April 23 2014 05:54 Thalandros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2014 00:02 WindWolf wrote:
On March 05 2014 09:06 Thalandros wrote:
Siberias, or any ''gaming headset'' at that price point specifically isn't actually worth it in terms of sound quality. Any headphone from a respectable manufacturer is better. Personally I'm a big fan of Sennheiser's sound. Go for it!

Does any of those headphones also comes with a good mic? I would like to avoid headphones + mic separately if possible
I'm gonna buy a new headset later on in order to get a new headset, not another pair of headphones.
(I can't stand in-ear headphones).

There are plenty that do, yes. I don't think you'll experience the best sound quality if you chose to go for two in one, but it's certainly a possibility. Take a look at Sennheiser's website, most of their headphones are your money's worth, whatever you look at. I've personally also looked at the Razer Electra's purely because they seem very mobile, aren't very pricy and have an attached microphone. They're for bassheads though, and I bought some €30,- in-ears for travel instead a month back. Could be worth looking into.

Got a SteelSeries headset as a birthday-present, so I don't need to buy another for a while. Thanks for the tip though
EZ4ENCE
Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
April 28 2014 10:19 GMT
#722
Having to replace my Sennheiser HD598's I'm looking at the Fidelio X1, how do they compare to the 598's when it comes to electronic music and how comfortable are they?
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Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
April 28 2014 12:04 GMT
#723
Apparently they are really good with dance/pop music and overall better than HD598 (higher pricepoint)? I don't have any personal experience, I'm getting this off of Head-fi.org.
|| ''I think we have all experienced passion that is not in any sense reasonable.'' ||
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
April 30 2014 10:14 GMT
#724
Budget €100,-

A friend of mine's headset has died, and I'm trying to find some decent headphones for an okay price. Any tips for around or below €100,-? He'll use it for gaming and some music listening, but mostly for gaming/skype.
|| ''I think we have all experienced passion that is not in any sense reasonable.'' ||
Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
April 30 2014 14:16 GMT
#725
On April 30 2014 19:14 Thalandros wrote:
Budget €100,-

A friend of mine's headset has died, and I'm trying to find some decent headphones for an okay price. Any tips for around or below €100,-? He'll use it for gaming and some music listening, but mostly for gaming/skype.


http://www.qpad.com/products/headsets/QH-90-White/

It has received some good reviews when compared to other headsets in the same price range.
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LucKeS
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada22 Posts
May 03 2014 16:14 GMT
#726
Great read.

Personally I love my Astro A40 2013 editions.

[/img NEW USER]http://cdn.eteknix.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/pdp_a40_wired_astro_black_1.jpg[/ img]
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Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
May 03 2014 18:02 GMT
#727
On May 04 2014 01:14 LucKeS wrote:
Great read.

Personally I love my Astro A40 2013 editions.

[/img NEW USER]http://cdn.eteknix.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/pdp_a40_wired_astro_black_1.jpg[/ img]

I tried em out for a week. Sound quality seemed a bit too boomy for nongame stuff and the mic was a wreck for me. Returned them and got a HD 598 + Zalman ZM-1 mic. Kind of disappointing :/
|| ''I think we have all experienced passion that is not in any sense reasonable.'' ||
z0rz
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States350 Posts
May 03 2014 20:26 GMT
#728
There's just absolutely no reason to pay for a gaming headset with the amount of high quality headphones/microphones/DACs available at every price point. Just like buying a pre-built PC vs. building your own, sourcing your own parts will generally give you better performance, longer lifespan, better warranties, while costing the same (or less, in most cases).
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Tobiaano
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland14 Posts
May 06 2014 10:18 GMT
#729
Been looking for new headphones lately for gaming/listening to music, and Sennheiser HD 598/600 have caught my attention. Is there a huge difference between these two, and do i need a sound card/amp to drive them to their full potential? If you know any other good headphones from this price range, please tell me.
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
May 06 2014 10:56 GMT
#730
For the Sennheiser HD 598, you don't. It might benefit them but I don't use any and I think they're completely fine without them (they are rated so by many). The 600 is a grade up and I imagine you'd need an amp/good sound card for their optimal performance. The HD 598 is so awesome because its so good but still a ''standard'' pair of headphones.
|| ''I think we have all experienced passion that is not in any sense reasonable.'' ||
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-06 11:03:24
May 06 2014 11:03 GMT
#731
I've been using a pair of Sennheiser HD 429 for a long time now (as in a couple of years) and now they are stasrting to brake down. Does Sennheiser have a similar pair of headphones now in the price range of 600-700 SEK
EZ4ENCE
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
May 06 2014 11:58 GMT
#732
On May 06 2014 19:18 Tobiaano wrote:
Been looking for new headphones lately for gaming/listening to music, and Sennheiser HD 598/600 have caught my attention. Is there a huge difference between these two, and do i need a sound card/amp to drive them to their full potential? If you know any other good headphones from this price range, please tell me.


The whole dedicated amp/DAC thing is largely overrated. It matters but less than most think and not particularly in the situations that are focused on. You could say you're not getting the most out of anything without the best gear, really, but the headphones are the much bigger deal.

That said, for listening at (very) loud volumes, you may need a dedicated amp for the HD 600 because the impedance is so high. It's not actually that the headphones require so much power at all but that the power delivered is voltage squared divided by the resistance, so you need more voltage.

On May 06 2014 20:03 WindWolf wrote:
I've been using a pair of Sennheiser HD 429 for a long time now (as in a couple of years) and now they are stasrting to brake down. Does Sennheiser have a similar pair of headphones now in the price range of 600-700 SEK

A couple years isn't a long time in terms of headphones. I don't think these are EOL or anything, so you could get another. There used to be HD 4x8 models some years back, and they were phased out for these HD 4x9 models.

I'm not aware of new Sennheiser headphones in that price range either.
Tobiaano
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland14 Posts
May 06 2014 14:50 GMT
#733
On May 06 2014 20:58 Myrmidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2014 19:18 Tobiaano wrote:
Been looking for new headphones lately for gaming/listening to music, and Sennheiser HD 598/600 have caught my attention. Is there a huge difference between these two, and do i need a sound card/amp to drive them to their full potential? If you know any other good headphones from this price range, please tell me.


The whole dedicated amp/DAC thing is largely overrated. It matters but less than most think and not particularly in the situations that are focused on. You could say you're not getting the most out of anything without the best gear, really, but the headphones are the much bigger deal.

That said, for listening at (very) loud volumes, you may need a dedicated amp for the HD 600 because the impedance is so high. It's not actually that the headphones require so much power at all but that the power delivered is voltage squared divided by the resistance, so you need more voltage.

I'm not aware of new Sennheiser headphones in that price range either.

So could i run the HD 600 decently with my Asus Xonar DG ?
Ercster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States603 Posts
May 06 2014 19:50 GMT
#734
I'm looking to get new in ear headphones, but I don't know anything about them. the majority of the music I listen to is metal. What are some good headphones that are less than $150?
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.” -Neil deGrasse Tyson
z0rz
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States350 Posts
May 06 2014 20:12 GMT
#735
This is usually a good place to start: http://www.head-fi.org/t/478568/multi-iem-review-315-iems-compared-t-peos-popular-added-04-30-14-p-901
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WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
May 06 2014 20:17 GMT
#736
On May 06 2014 20:58 Myrmidon wrote:

Show nested quote +
On May 06 2014 20:03 WindWolf wrote:
I've been using a pair of Sennheiser HD 429 for a long time now (as in a couple of years) and now they are stasrting to brake down. Does Sennheiser have a similar pair of headphones now in the price range of 600-700 SEK

A couple years isn't a long time in terms of headphones. I don't think these are EOL or anything, so you could get another. There used to be HD 4x8 models some years back, and they were phased out for these HD 4x9 models.

I'm not aware of new Sennheiser headphones in that price range either.

Considering everything it has been through, particular the cable, I'm impressed that they are still working decently.

---

Breaking down was maybe a bad choice of words. What I meant to say was that I've noticed the the Audio quality has gone down over time, especially when comparing them to my new SteelSeries Seberia (which was a gift). And now the cable is starting to show tendencies of not producing good sound when the connector is in certain angles.
EZ4ENCE
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
May 06 2014 22:41 GMT
#737
Oh, maybe I didn't word that correctly. I meant "a long time" with respect to manufacturers releasing new models.

With reasonably heavy use, you maybe can't expect more than a couple or few years out of fairly cheap headphones.

Headphones can be readily recabled and reterminated to fix issues with those, but perhaps it's not worth it unless you already have the tools to do so, for a model like that.
Ercster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States603 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-07 21:51:26
May 07 2014 21:45 GMT
#738
On May 07 2014 05:12 z0rz wrote:
This is usually a good place to start: http://www.head-fi.org/t/478568/multi-iem-review-315-iems-compared-t-peos-popular-added-04-30-14-p-901

I was hoping for some suggestions other than a website that is way too intimidating for someone who just wants a nice set of in ear headphones. I should clarify, I don't anything technical about audio things. I just have been burnt so many times on shitty $30 or less headphones.
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.” -Neil deGrasse Tyson
z0rz
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States350 Posts
May 07 2014 23:51 GMT
#739
I'm just gonna gently nudge you to take another look at the thread I linked. Being upset with poor purchases in the past means you need to start doing research before you make your next purchase. And even though the thread I linked is rating subjective qualities, I find it pretty accurate and reasonable. It's a gold mine of information.

What do you value? Comfort? Durability? Aesthetics? Booming bass vs super flat, accurate sound? I don't know you, and I don't know what you want. It's always good to do your own research since nobody knows what you want more than you do, and that thread does the thankless job of narrowing literally thousands of options down to a select few IEMs (In-Ear Monitors, which is what you're asking for) at different price points.

Here's a sortable table, if it helps: http://theheadphonelist.com/headphone-list/

You can set your price range, mouse-over the columns to see a better explanation of what each category really means, etc. Find a couple that seem like a great value, click to read the review, go from there.

Example: I got a pair of HiSoundAudio Wooduo 2s a few months ago for $65 (they're listed at $99 in the link, which is the basis for the value score, of course). It got an 8/10 for both value and sound, which I find pretty fair. Would I suggest them to you? No clue. They have a bright red cord which might be a turn off, and they're extremely bass-heavy which is a problem for some people.

But you didn't need me to tell you any of that because it's all in the review in the link
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Ercster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States603 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-08 01:18:45
May 08 2014 01:18 GMT
#740
On May 08 2014 08:51 z0rz wrote:
I'm just gonna gently nudge you to take another look at the thread I linked. Being upset with poor purchases in the past means you need to start doing research before you make your next purchase. And even though the thread I linked is rating subjective qualities, I find it pretty accurate and reasonable. It's a gold mine of information.

What do you value? Comfort? Durability? Aesthetics? Booming bass vs super flat, accurate sound? I don't know you, and I don't know what you want. It's always good to do your own research since nobody knows what you want more than you do, and that thread does the thankless job of narrowing literally thousands of options down to a select few IEMs (In-Ear Monitors, which is what you're asking for) at different price points.

Here's a sortable table, if it helps: http://theheadphonelist.com/headphone-list/

You can set your price range, mouse-over the columns to see a better explanation of what each category really means, etc. Find a couple that seem like a great value, click to read the review, go from there.

Example: I got a pair of HiSoundAudio Wooduo 2s a few months ago for $65 (they're listed at $99 in the link, which is the basis for the value score, of course). It got an 8/10 for both value and sound, which I find pretty fair. Would I suggest them to you? No clue. They have a bright red cord which might be a turn off, and they're extremely bass-heavy which is a problem for some people.

But you didn't need me to tell you any of that because it's all in the review in the link

My main problem with the link was that it was extremely intimidating. I'm pretty stupid when it comes to sound and the quality of sound, so reading things like its really balanced, or it has a smooth treble, or whatever else they put has no meaning to me. And reviews constantly have things like "the bass is way to bumpy for me" or "they're uncomfortable for me" and then put no context into those statements so I have no idea what any of it means nor can I find someplace to define them for me.

Also, I'm using Astro A40's, which the majority of what I've read, are awful. I don't see the problem with them, but I also don't know what I'm looking for. They're pretty comfortable, I can listen to my music and its sounds fine, the mic works well and sounds fine on the other end.

So you can kinda see why I'd rather look at suggestions from people here, rather than going off on my own even with what you've provided.
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