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koaschten
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2 Posts
September 14 2012 20:36 GMT
#261
With the "big screens" getting more common, anyone here using a hardware capture device with a 2560x1440 resolution and streaming 1280x720? Is that even possible or do I just have to man up to get a friggin monster of a cpu?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 04:42:12
September 15 2012 04:40 GMT
#262
On September 15 2012 05:36 koaschten wrote:
With the "big screens" getting more common, anyone here using a hardware capture device with a 2560x1440 resolution and streaming 1280x720? Is that even possible or do I just have to man up to get a friggin monster of a cpu?


Encoding 1280x720 isnt really hard at all. With a 2560x1440 software capture source you are going to have massive issues with capturing (performance hits are related to source resolution*captureFPS), but the actual downscaling and encoding isnt particularly hard, you would want to capture at no more than 24-30fps with that kind of source resolution if you are trying to have any kind of good performance, but encode resolution wise, you can easily hit 1920x1080 with those framerates with a sandy/ivy bridge i5/i7, or an overclocked i7 9xx quad if your system is older, using the veryfast preset i think.


Hardware capture i dont think anything supports.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
MisterJef
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada62 Posts
September 19 2012 15:40 GMT
#263
This is a very good guide! Thanks for this Thread!
Dat Marine Split
Remfire
Profile Joined October 2010
492 Posts
September 19 2012 18:57 GMT
#264
This is an awesome guide thank you so much. Made it so simple and answered so many questions!
xrayEU
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden571 Posts
September 25 2012 08:16 GMT
#265
I have a i5 2500k @ 4.5GHz and it feels like it's not enough power, maybe it's my xsplit settings.
When I stream 720p I can feel the fps drops so I was wondering if a Capture card would make a big difference for me or should I be fine if I tweak my xsplit settings?
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-25 08:35:57
September 25 2012 08:35 GMT
#266
On September 25 2012 17:16 xrayEU wrote:
I have a i5 2500k @ 4.5GHz and it feels like it's not enough power, maybe it's my xsplit settings.
When I stream 720p I can feel the fps drops so I was wondering if a Capture card would make a big difference for me or should I be fine if I tweak my xsplit settings?


Hm you shouldn't get fps drops.

I have an i5 2500k at stock and I can stream at 720P without any lag whatsoever (obviously I can't stream at that due to bad upload speed).

I do use dxtory though as I used to have problems with xsplits screen capture that would cause me lag on my old computer. I mean judging from the processor I imagine your pc in general is pretty good, shouldn't be having problems.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-25 11:40:15
September 25 2012 11:40 GMT
#267
On September 25 2012 17:35 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 17:16 xrayEU wrote:
I have a i5 2500k @ 4.5GHz and it feels like it's not enough power, maybe it's my xsplit settings.
When I stream 720p I can feel the fps drops so I was wondering if a Capture card would make a big difference for me or should I be fine if I tweak my xsplit settings?


Hm you shouldn't get fps drops.

I have an i5 2500k at stock and I can stream at 720P without any lag whatsoever (obviously I can't stream at that due to bad upload speed).

I do use dxtory though as I used to have problems with xsplits screen capture that would cause me lag on my old computer. I mean judging from the processor I imagine your pc in general is pretty good, shouldn't be having problems.


Any kind of software capture (that i know of) will hit framerates pretty hard (though maybe not noticably, if you are not monitoring them with something like FRAPS) and most people experience a laggy feel to some games.

Running sc2 at mainly low settings for me will give about 350fps staring at probes early game, but bring in xsplit or ffsplit capturing my 1920x1080 screen at 60fps, and game framerates are barely above 200, moving camera feels wonky, and many people are aparantly a lot worse off than me with performance.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-25 11:48:34
September 25 2012 11:47 GMT
#268
On September 25 2012 17:16 xrayEU wrote:
I have a i5 2500k @ 4.5GHz and it feels like it's not enough power, maybe it's my xsplit settings.
When I stream 720p I can feel the fps drops so I was wondering if a Capture card would make a big difference for me or should I be fine if I tweak my xsplit settings?


If one or more of your CPU cores come close to max (stream a replay with task manager performance tab in the background, check cores, look for any over ~80% during a battle or something) then you can lower resolution, but you should be good with plenty of room with an overclocked 2500k, lowering framerate in xsplit should give you better game performance (less capture work) but if you are already at 30fps (and not more, like 45-60) and your CPU isnt maxing out any cores, there is not much you can do to improve performance AFAIK. I dont personally know how well capture cards work and they are far from a complete solution in a single PC setup so dont expect a quick fix there.

If you are playing on highish settings and just want more performance, try dropping to medium shaders with high/ultra textures and effects, models on high, and play with lowering physics and reflections. That will perform a lot better than flicking settings to max and ignoring them and still have the same kind of look, especially with the high res textures
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
OSL0rd
Profile Joined June 2012
Singapore7 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-28 07:38:21
October 28 2012 07:37 GMT
#269
Hi,

Just wanted to ask about what the optimal upload speed for streaming at 720p at 60fps is.

Also what is the optimal computer specs that allows you to have 2 or 3 screens (resolution preferbly at 1280x720 or 1980x1080) able to play Sc2, CS:GO, console games (I have a HDPVR) at the above stated quality and frame rate?
I just wanted to have a look at the specs and the cost, but if a budget is required, it will be below $2500

Also, is it recommended to switch to optical fiber network? As when I looked through the brochure, it said that the international speed for optical fiber network is slower than my concurrent network. My internet speed now is 20 mbps download and 1.5mpbs upload.

I have tried streaming and with my rubbish computer I can stream optimally at 25fps 360p while having an in game fps of 30-34.

Hope I can get help soon. Thanks.
When there is a will, there is a way and there is a wall
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
October 31 2012 06:26 GMT
#270
Quick question about the Aver Media Live Gamer HD. Does it let you capture gameplay (like fraps) and stream at the same time(Twitch) without the massive performance hit on the CPU? Am I understanding this correctly?
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5478 Posts
October 31 2012 07:57 GMT
#271
How do you stream old games with Color issues?

I'm not talking about BW because with windowed mode it isn't an issue, but I tried to stream Age of Empires and EVERYTHING was fucked up from the color to resolution. Having a virtual computer would probably fix it, but that seems to complicated. Is there a simple way to stream old fashion games with outdated color palets?
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jgranados07
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1 Post
December 07 2012 05:40 GMT
#272
thegunrun-

this is really helpful but im having trouble when i sign in it keeps saying "could not connect to xsplit servers" what can i do?
or do i have to buy a license? please help me thank you.
Twingster
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5 Posts
December 24 2012 07:56 GMT
#273
How does the 3770k fare for streaming?
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
December 24 2012 17:04 GMT
#274
On December 24 2012 16:56 Twingster wrote:
How does the 3770k fare for streaming?



Its a great CPU, you'll be perfectly happy with it. Although you could get the Live Gamer HD people have been raving about, and then go for a 3570k, which is the best you'll need for gaming.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Pretty Aluminum
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States95 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 18:35:10
January 20 2013 10:03 GMT
#275
Hey I was thinking about getting Hauppauge HD-PVR (http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hdpvr.html), but I'm not the brightest when it comes to computers or electronics in general. I was just curious if my TV would support this product being a Sharp lc-26sh20u model. According to the websites I checked it should be 720p HD, but I'm just curious if that is to low for the PVR or if I was somehow mistaken on it being 720p.

Also I was curious as to whether or not I needed anything other than what the PVR comes with to stream. Obviously I know i would need like xsplit or OBS, but I mean would game audio sound fine? It should come with all the cables needed to stream, correct? Would my mic work also while streaming? I will still be able to see my monitor while streaming console games right?

Would there be a better system for my computer other than HD-PVR such as Blackmagic Design Intensity Shuttle (http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/intensity/) or AVerMedia AVerTV HD-DVR (http://www.avermedia-usa.com/AVertv/Product/ProductDetail.aspx?Id=488)?

I really only want to use this for my Gamecube if that matters at all. I don't plan on using it on anything other than that expect maybe other Nintendo devices like a Wii or a N64.

Computer specs encase they matter at all are as follows:
AMD Phenom IIX4 955
NVIDIA GeForceGTX 560 TI
Windows 7 64byte OS
Download speed of 17mbps
Upload speed of 1.87mpbs
My monitor is a LED LG IPS236VX - I have and use an HDMI cable

If there is anything I missing please ask and I will be happy to tell you. Thanks in advance to anyone who takes time out of there day to answer these questions. It is greatly appreciated.
It is never too late to be what you might have been. -- George Eliot
FacuCbaARG
Profile Joined November 2012
Argentina9 Posts
January 25 2013 03:56 GMT
#276
Thank you very much for this post ! :D Today I got Xsplit , tried it , and I´m already streaming at 480p with my ASUS notebook ^^
Practice makes Perfect.
blackwaltz3
Profile Joined May 2011
54 Posts
March 18 2013 15:01 GMT
#277
My speedtest.net test is as follows:
ping = 4ms
DL speed = 120.62 mbps
UL speed= inconsistent, but lowest was 55 mbps

However, my average data rate on the xsplit broadcaster bandwidth test is about 700-800kbps. As a result, when I set my max bitrate to 1000kbps, there is still a significant amount of dropped frames. From the first page, I gathered that I could set my max bitrate somewhere 500-600kbps below my max upload speed, which obviously is not possible. Can I get some advice on why I cannot stream at a higher bit rate? Thanks!
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
May 05 2013 19:05 GMT
#278
Not sure if this thread is still being updated but I've recently been partnered on Twitch but whenever I stream my viewers can only view in either the resolution I'm streaming (720p+) and 360p. How do I get 480p and 720p? Even if I stream in 1080p I only get 360p as the alternative.
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huff1
Profile Joined June 2011
Bulgaria13 Posts
May 12 2013 20:21 GMT
#279
Intel Core i7-3632QM (2.2 - 3.2 GHz, 6MB cash)
8GB (2x4096MB) DDR3
NVIDIA GeForce GT 635M with 2GB DDR3
Did my laptop can handle streaming in 720p/1080p ~~
It's better to be hated for what you are,than to be loved for what you're not
phrozenthedruid
Profile Joined July 2013
United States1 Post
July 29 2013 04:10 GMT
#280
Hey all, thanks in advance for taking the time to read this.

So today I decided I wanted to stream, I play SC2, WoW, Civ5, and a bunch of other games, and I love the streaming community. I found this guide here, http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/201...g-on-mac-os-x/ and I followed it to a T.

My output stream is 1280x720, 24 FPS, bitrate is 1500, the stream is very good video quality, except the FPS ranged anywhere from 9-13 fps while I'm in a game (even lower probably). Not only that, but the stream is choppy (due to the FPS). The video LOOKS good, but its choppy and laggy.

In game for me, it's a bit laggy, not too much, but you can definitely tell the CPU is working its ass off while the Flash Media Live Encoder is streaming my desktop from camtwist. The settings in Camtwist match up with FMLE too, so I don't know what the problem is.

I even changed the resolution output settings to 360p and 480p and its the same amount of FPS and choppiness as it is when I try to stream 720p.

In a nut shell, the main issue is the stream is choppy and very LITTLE fps, yet my imac specs should be MORE than enough to handle this, and changing the resolution/fps in the FMLE settings had no effect on the stream.

here are the specs.

Processor 3.2 GHz Intel Core i3
Memory 12 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
Graphics ATI Radeon HD 5670 512 MB
Software OS X 10.8.4 (12E55)
My Internet download speed ranges from 25-30mbps, and my upload speed ranges from 8-9 mbps.

ALSO, a key thing to note is when I looked at Activity Monitor, Flash Media Live Encoder is using 180-190 , and CamTwist sits around 80. I know these are extremely high.

has anyone experienced this and know how to fix the stream quality/fps/choppyness and the intense CPU usage from these two programs?

My computer should be able to handle this don't you think?
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