EPTStreaming 101 - By TheGunrun - Page 14
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koaschten
Germany2 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
On September 15 2012 05:36 koaschten wrote: With the "big screens" getting more common, anyone here using a hardware capture device with a 2560x1440 resolution and streaming 1280x720? Is that even possible or do I just have to man up to get a friggin monster of a cpu? Encoding 1280x720 isnt really hard at all. With a 2560x1440 software capture source you are going to have massive issues with capturing (performance hits are related to source resolution*captureFPS), but the actual downscaling and encoding isnt particularly hard, you would want to capture at no more than 24-30fps with that kind of source resolution if you are trying to have any kind of good performance, but encode resolution wise, you can easily hit 1920x1080 with those framerates with a sandy/ivy bridge i5/i7, or an overclocked i7 9xx quad if your system is older, using the veryfast preset i think. Hardware capture i dont think anything supports. | ||
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MisterJef
Canada62 Posts
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Remfire
492 Posts
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xrayEU
Sweden571 Posts
When I stream 720p I can feel the fps drops so I was wondering if a Capture card would make a big difference for me or should I be fine if I tweak my xsplit settings? | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On September 25 2012 17:16 xrayEU wrote: I have a i5 2500k @ 4.5GHz and it feels like it's not enough power, maybe it's my xsplit settings. When I stream 720p I can feel the fps drops so I was wondering if a Capture card would make a big difference for me or should I be fine if I tweak my xsplit settings? Hm you shouldn't get fps drops. I have an i5 2500k at stock and I can stream at 720P without any lag whatsoever (obviously I can't stream at that due to bad upload speed). I do use dxtory though as I used to have problems with xsplits screen capture that would cause me lag on my old computer. I mean judging from the processor I imagine your pc in general is pretty good, shouldn't be having problems. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
On September 25 2012 17:35 blade55555 wrote: Hm you shouldn't get fps drops. I have an i5 2500k at stock and I can stream at 720P without any lag whatsoever (obviously I can't stream at that due to bad upload speed). I do use dxtory though as I used to have problems with xsplits screen capture that would cause me lag on my old computer. I mean judging from the processor I imagine your pc in general is pretty good, shouldn't be having problems. Any kind of software capture (that i know of) will hit framerates pretty hard (though maybe not noticably, if you are not monitoring them with something like FRAPS) and most people experience a laggy feel to some games. Running sc2 at mainly low settings for me will give about 350fps staring at probes early game, but bring in xsplit or ffsplit capturing my 1920x1080 screen at 60fps, and game framerates are barely above 200, moving camera feels wonky, and many people are aparantly a lot worse off than me with performance. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
On September 25 2012 17:16 xrayEU wrote: I have a i5 2500k @ 4.5GHz and it feels like it's not enough power, maybe it's my xsplit settings. When I stream 720p I can feel the fps drops so I was wondering if a Capture card would make a big difference for me or should I be fine if I tweak my xsplit settings? If one or more of your CPU cores come close to max (stream a replay with task manager performance tab in the background, check cores, look for any over ~80% during a battle or something) then you can lower resolution, but you should be good with plenty of room with an overclocked 2500k, lowering framerate in xsplit should give you better game performance (less capture work) but if you are already at 30fps (and not more, like 45-60) and your CPU isnt maxing out any cores, there is not much you can do to improve performance AFAIK. I dont personally know how well capture cards work and they are far from a complete solution in a single PC setup so dont expect a quick fix there. If you are playing on highish settings and just want more performance, try dropping to medium shaders with high/ultra textures and effects, models on high, and play with lowering physics and reflections. That will perform a lot better than flicking settings to max and ignoring them and still have the same kind of look, especially with the high res textures | ||
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OSL0rd
Singapore7 Posts
Just wanted to ask about what the optimal upload speed for streaming at 720p at 60fps is. Also what is the optimal computer specs that allows you to have 2 or 3 screens (resolution preferbly at 1280x720 or 1980x1080) able to play Sc2, CS:GO, console games (I have a HDPVR) at the above stated quality and frame rate? I just wanted to have a look at the specs and the cost, but if a budget is required, it will be below $2500 Also, is it recommended to switch to optical fiber network? As when I looked through the brochure, it said that the international speed for optical fiber network is slower than my concurrent network. My internet speed now is 20 mbps download and 1.5mpbs upload. I have tried streaming and with my rubbish computer I can stream optimally at 25fps 360p while having an in game fps of 30-34. Hope I can get help soon. Thanks. | ||
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Havik_
United States5585 Posts
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thezanursic
5498 Posts
I'm not talking about BW because with windowed mode it isn't an issue, but I tried to stream Age of Empires and EVERYTHING was fucked up from the color to resolution. Having a virtual computer would probably fix it, but that seems to complicated. Is there a simple way to stream old fashion games with outdated color palets? | ||
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jgranados07
United States1 Post
this is really helpful but im having trouble when i sign in it keeps saying "could not connect to xsplit servers" what can i do? or do i have to buy a license? please help me thank you. | ||
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Twingster
United States5 Posts
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Havik_
United States5585 Posts
On December 24 2012 16:56 Twingster wrote: How does the 3770k fare for streaming? Its a great CPU, you'll be perfectly happy with it. Although you could get the Live Gamer HD people have been raving about, and then go for a 3570k, which is the best you'll need for gaming. | ||
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Pretty Aluminum
United States95 Posts
Also I was curious as to whether or not I needed anything other than what the PVR comes with to stream. Obviously I know i would need like xsplit or OBS, but I mean would game audio sound fine? It should come with all the cables needed to stream, correct? Would my mic work also while streaming? I will still be able to see my monitor while streaming console games right? Would there be a better system for my computer other than HD-PVR such as Blackmagic Design Intensity Shuttle (http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/intensity/) or AVerMedia AVerTV HD-DVR (http://www.avermedia-usa.com/AVertv/Product/ProductDetail.aspx?Id=488)? I really only want to use this for my Gamecube if that matters at all. I don't plan on using it on anything other than that expect maybe other Nintendo devices like a Wii or a N64. Computer specs encase they matter at all are as follows: AMD Phenom IIX4 955 NVIDIA GeForceGTX 560 TI Windows 7 64byte OS Download speed of 17mbps Upload speed of 1.87mpbs My monitor is a LED LG IPS236VX - I have and use an HDMI cable If there is anything I missing please ask and I will be happy to tell you. Thanks in advance to anyone who takes time out of there day to answer these questions. It is greatly appreciated. | ||
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FacuCbaARG
Argentina9 Posts
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blackwaltz3
54 Posts
ping = 4ms DL speed = 120.62 mbps UL speed= inconsistent, but lowest was 55 mbps However, my average data rate on the xsplit broadcaster bandwidth test is about 700-800kbps. As a result, when I set my max bitrate to 1000kbps, there is still a significant amount of dropped frames. From the first page, I gathered that I could set my max bitrate somewhere 500-600kbps below my max upload speed, which obviously is not possible. Can I get some advice on why I cannot stream at a higher bit rate? Thanks! | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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huff1
Bulgaria13 Posts
8GB (2x4096MB) DDR3 NVIDIA GeForce GT 635M with 2GB DDR3 Did my laptop can handle streaming in 720p/1080p ~~ | ||
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phrozenthedruid
United States1 Post
So today I decided I wanted to stream, I play SC2, WoW, Civ5, and a bunch of other games, and I love the streaming community. I found this guide here, http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/201...g-on-mac-os-x/ and I followed it to a T. My output stream is 1280x720, 24 FPS, bitrate is 1500, the stream is very good video quality, except the FPS ranged anywhere from 9-13 fps while I'm in a game (even lower probably). Not only that, but the stream is choppy (due to the FPS). The video LOOKS good, but its choppy and laggy. In game for me, it's a bit laggy, not too much, but you can definitely tell the CPU is working its ass off while the Flash Media Live Encoder is streaming my desktop from camtwist. The settings in Camtwist match up with FMLE too, so I don't know what the problem is. I even changed the resolution output settings to 360p and 480p and its the same amount of FPS and choppiness as it is when I try to stream 720p. In a nut shell, the main issue is the stream is choppy and very LITTLE fps, yet my imac specs should be MORE than enough to handle this, and changing the resolution/fps in the FMLE settings had no effect on the stream. here are the specs. Processor 3.2 GHz Intel Core i3 Memory 12 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 Graphics ATI Radeon HD 5670 512 MB Software OS X 10.8.4 (12E55) My Internet download speed ranges from 25-30mbps, and my upload speed ranges from 8-9 mbps. ALSO, a key thing to note is when I looked at Activity Monitor, Flash Media Live Encoder is using 180-190 , and CamTwist sits around 80. I know these are extremely high. has anyone experienced this and know how to fix the stream quality/fps/choppyness and the intense CPU usage from these two programs? My computer should be able to handle this don't you think? | ||
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